@sethmode said:
@jacksmedulla: Absurd to you (and me, honestly), but a lot of people bought into a lot of the hype with that game, for good or for ill, and CDPR was directly behind a lot of that. Many people feel they were duped for many reasons...I guess I just don't see this as people being mad for the sake of piling on, and on top of it all, I find it hard to be sympathetic toward CDPR at all since they're in this mess via their own doing.
Stuff like that should be absurd to anyone and if people believe big-scale marketing campaigns without even thinking about it, that's on them also. Just in general the marketing of every single game/movie (or just company) etc. promises it to be the best thing ever made - that's just how it is. I'm not saying this is a good thing, far from it, but it's how this shit works, thus you can't blame CDPR's marketing department for doing their jobs.
Not handing out console copies to the press sucks, I agree. These practices need to change, but that's also something that's not unique to this case but something a lot of other devs have done in the past.
I'm not mindlessly trying to say "it's not CDPRs fault", because that wouldn't be true. But everything happening now is just partially their fault - that's a fact. Not one dev team in the world wants to ship a broken game, but business realties, investors etc. don't care about this, and often force devs to do just that. I've also read an interesting comment by some other dev (can't remember the name), mentioning that testing for bugs while working from home would be extremely hard, so the entire covid thing should also have proven a huge problem here.
Minor bugs/jank is to be expected, in big open world games especially, and people making arguments like "Oh god, I couldn't get out of the water at every single point where I think it should work, this game is fucking terrible", just sound as if they've never played a video game before.
Again, it's fine (and encouraged even) to complain about valid points, like the hundreds of bugs and the performance, but damning the game for completely minor stuff is just dumb. Especially since I'm sure loads of people aren't doing this because they are actually frustrated or whatever, but because they just want to shit on something (doubly so, since this game was hyped to high heaven before). And, yes, it's the internet in 2020, but come on. All I want is fair discourse on this game, that's not the best thing ever, but also not the worst.
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