@joshwent: Well one way around it is literally to pirate something you have a box copy of. It's covered by the same loophole that gives people the right to use an emulator like zsnes with roms of games they already own. So Box copies Aren't Outmoded at all, they an excellent way to prove you have a license,So a box copy is like a nice big receipt that's hard to lose. It gets a little weird if you purchase a digital copy then hop on pirates bay to get a drm free pirated version, since that little loophole might not fly. Theres also hacks and cracks too but buying something then hopping on pirates bay is pretty much EZ mode.
. Although when it comes to Digital copies on GoG I'm not even sure what to think since I've checked them out a few times for the sake of curiosity, if they really are DRM free then I might get something there. I'm immensely old skool with my ethics, and the thought of an all digital future for software does seem to have dire ramifications that I'm not comfortable with.
Just wanna mention that the idea of "consumer rights" as you guys are using it is not exactly a real thing. If I sell you a sandwich with a specific agreement that you won't eat it, I'm not taking away your rights, you just made a bad deal.
I agree that Steam is problematic. Specifically for me because monopolies are much more feasible with online stores than in brick and mortar, so the lack of competition is potentially troubling. But rebelling against Steam by supporting outmoded technology that limits small developers, increases game cost, and would have just as much DRM if publishers still cared, seems misguided. At least throw some cash at places like GOG, who are passionate about DRM free as well as easy access and support.
I mentioned theres ways around the DRM didn't I? Also EULAs aren't Iron clad, so the "you don't own it" stuff that gets tossed around is a lot more murky than people think. You have a License to install and use the product but HOW it's installed isn't something they have real power over. Sometimes in life you have out d-bag the d-bags duder.
@aiurflux: I agree the companies in general have been getting really arrogant over the past few years. It's really sad that the biggest reason I have nostalgia for games from over a decade ago was because the companies didn't treat us so poorly. But no, for the most part they care about money not about making customers happy and in order to make sure money keeps coming customers have to stay happy. I'm really not sure how we got to this point but it seems pretty obvious, as far as publishers and devs are concerned we're walking wallets without any rights.
@mattsaysfooey: Yep but thankfully with price drops you can get box copies of Pc games for 20 bucks, you just have to wait a couple years. You save money and you don't have to deal with DRM due to work arounds. An All Digital format will completely rape consumers like a prison bitch though.
And theres Workarounds for that BS too. Also My Argument is far from weak, it's common sense. When some one drops money on something they as a consumer can enjoy that product in whatever way makes them happy, it really is THAT simple.
@mosdl: You have no clue the amount of background processes steam runs when you aren't using it, huh? Also Devs are just as awful and greedy as publishers. Plus you do have more rights as a consumer when you get box copies so uh yeah.... You have no fucking clue what you're talking about.
@shinboy630 I actually find Dota and it's clones/sequel to be a horrible derivite game, I hate TF2 also. So thats not a selling point at all. But I did point out the background Processes and sadly most people don't realize they can opt out of Valve's Information gathering so Steam is a lot more intrusive than people think. Theres also the seperate issue that it's incredibly easy to bypass which means guys like me are never going to take part of it while still trying to be supportive of the industry on our terms. Plus for pirates, it means steam is a joke anti-piracy measure.