@project343 said:
@WinterSnowblind said:
@shadowwolf9 said:
It's so cool to hate on ME3 and other popular games nowadays. Arthur Geis was right on the most recent Rebel FM. A few people poisoned the kool aid and everyone is following along.
They destroyed the lore, released a clearly rushed and ill-thought out game with an ending that literally made no sense and continued the trend of no longer making RPG's, but dumbed down action games for the masses, thus completely alienating the original audience.
So no, I don't think it's simply a case of everyone simply "following along with a few people".
Mass Effect 2 destroyed the trilogy arc with a tangential diversion into Cerberus and the Collectors, had an awful fucking ending with one of the worst boss fights I've ever seen in a 'AAA game,' dumbed down the game with the barest of bones RPG elements in the series, and completely alienated fans of Mass Effect 1. I'm so sick of people praising ME2 and shitting all over ME3. They are both fine games, but don't you dare accuse Mass Effect 3 of being inferior from a narrative standpoint and as a signifier of a 'changed, mass-appeal-driven Bioware' when its predecessor is as bad if not worse.
I could not agree more with @shadowwolf9. It's a fucking despicable bandwagon effect.
Exactly. Personally, I'm a massive fan of the original game first and foremost. For all the praise it receives, the storytelling in ME2 was abysmal. Sure, the character development was fantastic and completely carried the game narratively, yet people treat it as some mighty beacon of gaming. I don't see how one could praise ME2 and not ME3. Both are great games, though I find ME3 to be much truer in form to the original than ME2. Here's what I said about the game two years ago on here:
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"I found the gameplay to be superior in ME2, but everything else was inferior. The story wasn't nearly as engaging or interesting, everything was completely laid out for you. You know the same about the main storyline in ME2 within the first hour as you do the last hour. Nothing changes. It did have slightly better character development, however. Bioware obviously lent much more time to that. The leveling system was streamlined to a fault. It was too bare bones and didn't require decision making.
What makes me fall in love with the Mass Effect world is atmosphere, which the sequel falls FLAT on. The majestic and grand citadel was reduced to a few corridors with merchants, you didn't get the feeling of this massive structure where the races have unified. It felt extremely isolated. The MAIN problem with ME2 is the music. I can't tell you how much I love the original Mass Effect's score. It's a mysterious, enchanting, and looming soundtrack that is a success across the board. Vigil is my personal favorite. Nothing can top the scene in Mass Effect where the Vigil AI reveals so much with that track in the background. It still gives me goosebumps. I loaded the soundtrack from my ME2 collector's edition and I can hardly recognize a track. None of them stuck with me when I played the game, they were so bland and forgetful. The original really satisfies that old school scifi itch.
While I really enjoyed ME2 and it's still one of my favorite games on the system, the changes it made were an overall disappointment, personally. Hopefully the third installment amends this and joins together the best of both games."
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Mass Effect 3 wasn't perfect in molding the best of each, but it sure made for a hell of a game. People are blinded by the massed (and questionable) adoration for ME2.
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