Shady

Aw! I thought he be head of game guides or something.

Then you probably should have started this topic without the CAD comic. It's not like he's the first one to make this observation.

@TaliciaDragonsong said:

Is it jealous hate around here? Sure sounds like it. Don't like the comic just move on. This "I hate CAD' thing is as old as the bloody internet by now. Get over it.

B^U

@TruthTellah said:

@Shady said:

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@TruthTellah said:

To be fair, Hideki Kamiya does seem clueless on PC gaming(and he has even admitted as much). heh. So, while the article's title was silly and click-baity, the actual contents weren't too bad, as it was a reasonable glimpse at how and why Japanese developers are often uninterested in PC gaming.

Except it's not since it's just the views of a white guy in Japan. In fact, his examples (saved for Final Fantasy XI and Phantasy Star Online 2) are games popular in the West as he couldn't be bothered to find their equivalent in Japan (Ys, Touhou, visual novels). On top of that, he didn't even bother mentioning the huge indie scene there. It's honestly the equivalent of Fox News bringing in a black person that hates Obama to reinforce their bias point and to look like they are "fair and balance". Calling it journalism is a slap in the face to everyone else in the business.

Eisenbeis has covered Japanese gaming for years. He wasn't just brought in for some random hit piece. He was just commenting on something that many may not understand about Japanese developers and PC gaming(using examples people may better relate to).

Dismissing him as just some "white guy in Japan" in simply offensive and shameful. We can disagree with the headline or even not like him as a writer, but we don't need to dip into xenophobia.

I call him that because he seems out of touch with Japanese game culture. The whole point they have him on staff is because he lives in Japan. You make it seem like I'm worse than Kotaku for the reasons they have him around. Anyway, you can dismiss it all you like, but he is definitely not a good source for insight on Japanese game culture. There are so many other more worthwhile people there that write insightful stories that this piece is the reason I hate Kotaku. It isn't Tim Rogers bad, but it's not much better.

I can understand disliking him and Kotaku. People all have their own preferences for gaming content, and I wouldn't begrudge anyone their right to feel differently on sites and their writers. I simply disagree with suggesting that he's somehow brought in as a hitman for Kotaku to attack Japanese developers, not least because of his unending praise for Japanese games and history of defending Japanese development. And I absolutely disagree with just writing him off as some "white guy in Japan". I think that's an unfortunately racist, or at least xenophobic, way of responding to all of this, and it has no place in appropriate criticism of him or Kotaku.

It was a poor choice of words I will admit. I should have gone with "some dude in Japan". That aside, the point I was trying to make is Kotaku got him to write an article on something that wasn't even tangentially related to it. On top of that, he is conveniently ignoring facts about the Japanese PC gaming scene. All the while using things most readers will identify with in order to seem like he is making a fair assessment. It's wrong and lazy, but that's exactly the kind of writing Kotaku loves. Not just Kotaku, but the whole of Gawker media. The company edict is to get the most views possible regardless of any journalistic integrity. That's why the Fox News (or News Corp media for that matter) is an apt comparison.

At worst, he's just as ignorant as Kamiya on that respect. I wouldn't be surprised either as most people only know Japan's game history on the console side.

Yeah, "some dude in Japan" would have been more appropriate. I'd still disagree, but it's at least not so xenophobic like some of Kamiya's responses have been. I think Eisenbeis has written some quality things on Japanese gaming before, and I don't think he's particularly wrong here. It was wrong for the headline to originally say Kamiya was "clueless" regarding PC gaming, though Kamiya has basically admitted as much in the past. Eisenbeis has defended the differences in Japanese development before, and I think he has actually provided some of the better explanations of these differences over the years. I mean, I remember when people were saying Japanese gaming was dead after what Inafune said, and he explained how it's more of a rocky evolution and adaptation than some kind of "death". He seems to genuinely care about Japanese gaming, and while others may be better at writing about it, I appreciate his take. To me, he's far from just "some dude" or "some white guy". He's just a writer you may or may not disagree with at times.

Your criticism here seems to be based more on a dislike of Gawker Media than this specific writer. I'd agree on issues with Gawker and its policies, but I don't think that means every contributor they employ is irredeemably awful and worthy of the kind of hyperbolic insults and dismissal people seem to feel are necessary.

The best advice I can give him is to write somewhere else. It really doesn't help that the first article I was exposed to him was this one. It's not like I think everyone that works at Fox News is horrible. However, they need to realize who they work for and decide whether that is what they want their work to be associated with.

Oh, this is the first time you've ever even heard of Eisenbeis and you were being that critical of him?

hm. Well, that's a shame. It's unfortunate that some people will draw such conclusions just based off assumptions more than anything else. We just want to get angry about things and rage or dismiss others when stories like this come out. People don't second guess making sweeping judgments about the worth of other people that they aren't familiar with at all as long as they happen to think they're disagreeing with them in one instance.

It's no wonder single statements and little disagreements can get one called "clueless" or a "fucking stupid idiot foreigner". We all seem drawn toward such nonsense.

To be fair to him, I don't know all that many video game journalists. At least, not on a first name basis. Most stuff tends to be fluff pieces or inflammatory. Whether he likes it or not, the latter is the kind Koatku love to put out. In effect, I have done what they wanted. I'm just going to drop it as they really don't deserve the exposure they get.

@TruthTellah said:

@Shady said:

@TruthTellah said:

@Shady said:

@TruthTellah said:

@Shady said:

@TruthTellah said:

To be fair, Hideki Kamiya does seem clueless on PC gaming(and he has even admitted as much). heh. So, while the article's title was silly and click-baity, the actual contents weren't too bad, as it was a reasonable glimpse at how and why Japanese developers are often uninterested in PC gaming.

Except it's not since it's just the views of a white guy in Japan. In fact, his examples (saved for Final Fantasy XI and Phantasy Star Online 2) are games popular in the West as he couldn't be bothered to find their equivalent in Japan (Ys, Touhou, visual novels). On top of that, he didn't even bother mentioning the huge indie scene there. It's honestly the equivalent of Fox News bringing in a black person that hates Obama to reinforce their bias point and to look like they are "fair and balance". Calling it journalism is a slap in the face to everyone else in the business.

Eisenbeis has covered Japanese gaming for years. He wasn't just brought in for some random hit piece. He was just commenting on something that many may not understand about Japanese developers and PC gaming(using examples people may better relate to).

Dismissing him as just some "white guy in Japan" in simply offensive and shameful. We can disagree with the headline or even not like him as a writer, but we don't need to dip into xenophobia.

I call him that because he seems out of touch with Japanese game culture. The whole point they have him on staff is because he lives in Japan. You make it seem like I'm worse than Kotaku for the reasons they have him around. Anyway, you can dismiss it all you like, but he is definitely not a good source for insight on Japanese game culture. There are so many other more worthwhile people there that write insightful stories that this piece is the reason I hate Kotaku. It isn't Tim Rogers bad, but it's not much better.

I can understand disliking him and Kotaku. People all have their own preferences for gaming content, and I wouldn't begrudge anyone their right to feel differently on sites and their writers. I simply disagree with suggesting that he's somehow brought in as a hitman for Kotaku to attack Japanese developers, not least because of his unending praise for Japanese games and history of defending Japanese development. And I absolutely disagree with just writing him off as some "white guy in Japan". I think that's an unfortunately racist, or at least xenophobic, way of responding to all of this, and it has no place in appropriate criticism of him or Kotaku.

It was a poor choice of words I will admit. I should have gone with "some dude in Japan". That aside, the point I was trying to make is Kotaku got him to write an article on something that wasn't even tangentially related to it. On top of that, he is conveniently ignoring facts about the Japanese PC gaming scene. All the while using things most readers will identify with in order to seem like he is making a fair assessment. It's wrong and lazy, but that's exactly the kind of writing Kotaku loves. Not just Kotaku, but the whole of Gawker media. The company edict is to get the most views possible regardless of any journalistic integrity. That's why the Fox News (or News Corp media for that matter) is an apt comparison.

At worst, he's just as ignorant as Kamiya on that respect. I wouldn't be surprised either as most people only know Japan's game history on the console side.

Yeah, "some dude in Japan" would have been more appropriate. I'd still disagree, but it's at least not so xenophobic like some of Kamiya's responses have been. I think Eisenbeis has written some quality things on Japanese gaming before, and I don't think he's particularly wrong here. It was wrong for the headline to originally say Kamiya was "clueless" regarding PC gaming, though Kamiya has basically admitted as much in the past. Eisenbeis has defended the differences in Japanese development before, and I think he has actually provided some of the better explanations of these differences over the years. I mean, I remember when people were saying Japanese gaming was dead after what Inafune said, and he explained how it's more of a rocky evolution and adaptation than some kind of "death". He seems to genuinely care about Japanese gaming, and while others may be better at writing about it, I appreciate his take. To me, he's far from just "some dude" or "some white guy". He's just a writer you may or may not disagree with at times.

Your criticism here seems to be based more on a dislike of Gawker Media than this specific writer. I'd agree on issues with Gawker and its policies, but I don't think that means every contributor they employ is irredeemably awful and worthy of the kind of hyperbolic insults and dismissal people seem to feel are necessary.

The best advice I can give him is to write somewhere else. It really doesn't help that the first article I was exposed to him was this one. It's not like I think everyone that works at Fox News is horrible. However, they need to realize who they work for and decide whether that is what they want their work to be associated with.

I think I might have to watch the whole thing with friends.

@TruthTellah said:

@Shady said:

@TruthTellah said:

@Shady said:

@TruthTellah said:

To be fair, Hideki Kamiya does seem clueless on PC gaming(and he has even admitted as much). heh. So, while the article's title was silly and click-baity, the actual contents weren't too bad, as it was a reasonable glimpse at how and why Japanese developers are often uninterested in PC gaming.

Except it's not since it's just the views of a white guy in Japan. In fact, his examples (saved for Final Fantasy XI and Phantasy Star Online 2) are games popular in the West as he couldn't be bothered to find their equivalent in Japan (Ys, Touhou, visual novels). On top of that, he didn't even bother mentioning the huge indie scene there. It's honestly the equivalent of Fox News bringing in a black person that hates Obama to reinforce their bias point and to look like they are "fair and balance". Calling it journalism is a slap in the face to everyone else in the business.

Eisenbeis has covered Japanese gaming for years. He wasn't just brought in for some random hit piece. He was just commenting on something that many may not understand about Japanese developers and PC gaming(using examples people may better relate to).

Dismissing him as just some "white guy in Japan" in simply offensive and shameful. We can disagree with the headline or even not like him as a writer, but we don't need to dip into xenophobia.

I call him that because he seems out of touch with Japanese game culture. The whole point they have him on staff is because he lives in Japan. You make it seem like I'm worse than Kotaku for the reasons they have him around. Anyway, you can dismiss it all you like, but he is definitely not a good source for insight on Japanese game culture. There are so many other more worthwhile people there that write insightful stories that this piece is the reason I hate Kotaku. It isn't Tim Rogers bad, but it's not much better.

I can understand disliking him and Kotaku. People all have their own preferences for gaming content, and I wouldn't begrudge anyone their right to feel differently on sites and their writers. I simply disagree with suggesting that he's somehow brought in as a hitman for Kotaku to attack Japanese developers, not least because of his unending praise for Japanese games and history of defending Japanese development. And I absolutely disagree with just writing him off as some "white guy in Japan". I think that's an unfortunately racist, or at least xenophobic, way of responding to all of this, and it has no place in appropriate criticism of him or Kotaku.

It was a poor choice of words I will admit. I should have gone with "some dude in Japan". That aside, the point I was trying to make is Kotaku got him to write an article on something that wasn't even tangentially related to it. On top of that, he is conveniently ignoring facts about the Japanese PC gaming scene. All the while using things most readers will identify with in order to seem like he is making a fair assessment. It's wrong and lazy, but that's exactly the kind of writing Kotaku loves. Not just Kotaku, but the whole of Gawker media. The company edict is to get the most views possible regardless of any journalistic integrity. That's why the Fox News (or News Corp media for that matter) is an apt comparison.

At worst, he's just as ignorant as Kamiya on that respect. I wouldn't be surprised either as most people only know Japan's game history on the console side.

@TruthTellah said:

@Shady said:

@TruthTellah said:

To be fair, Hideki Kamiya does seem clueless on PC gaming(and he has even admitted as much). heh. So, while the article's title was silly and click-baity, the actual contents weren't too bad, as it was a reasonable glimpse at how and why Japanese developers are often uninterested in PC gaming.

Except it's not since it's just the views of a white guy in Japan. In fact, his examples (saved for Final Fantasy XI and Phantasy Star Online 2) are games popular in the West as he couldn't be bothered to find their equivalent in Japan (Ys, Touhou, visual novels). On top of that, he didn't even bother mentioning the huge indie scene there. It's honestly the equivalent of Fox News bringing in a black person that hates Obama to reinforce their bias point and to look like they are "fair and balance". Calling it journalism is a slap in the face to everyone else in the business.

Eisenbeis has covered Japanese gaming for years. He wasn't just brought in for some random hit piece. He was just commenting on something that many may not understand about Japanese developers and PC gaming(using examples people may better relate to).

Dismissing him as just some "white guy in Japan" in simply offensive and shameful. We can disagree with the headline or even not like him as a writer, but we don't need to dip into xenophobia.

I call him that because he seems out of touch with Japanese game culture. The whole point they have him on staff is because he lives in Japan. You make it seem like I'm worse than Kotaku for the reasons they have him around. Anyway, you can dismiss it all you like, but he is definitely not a good source for insight on Japanese game culture. There are so many other more worthwhile people there that write insightful stories that this piece is the reason I hate Kotaku. It isn't Tim Rogers bad, but it's not much better.

@TruthTellah said:

To be fair, Hideki Kamiya does seem clueless on PC gaming(and he has even admitted as much). heh. So, while the article's title was silly and click-baity, the actual contents weren't too bad, as it was a reasonable glimpse at how and why Japanese developers are often uninterested in PC gaming.

Except it's not since it's just the views of a white guy in Japan. In fact, his examples (saved for Final Fantasy XI and Phantasy Star Online 2) are games popular in the West as he couldn't be bothered to find their equivalent in Japan (Ys, Touhou, visual novels). On top of that, he didn't even bother mentioning the huge indie scene there. It's honestly the equivalent of Fox News bringing in a black person that hates Obama to reinforce their bias point and to look like they are "fair and balance". Calling it journalism is a slap in the face to everyone else in the business.

@LiquidPrince said:

I don't think I've ever seen a video game characters butt jiggle...

It's out of control in Lost Planet 2.