My first Game in a Franchise is my favorite 38.9% of the time

I once read an argument made that the first game you play in a series is likely going to be your favorite. So I decided to see if that was true for me. At least from what I can tell for me it isn't. More than half the time so far my favorite game is played second or later. Firsts listed at the top.

updated 8/13/13

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Posted by Hunter5024

You like Dragon Quarter more than Bof III? You madman.

Posted by Slag

@hunter5024: I haven't played BOF 3 (or 4), but I probably would still like V best anyway. 3 and 4 are on my never ending bucket list of games to play.

Dragon Quarter is crazy out there! I appreciate how different it is. What i really like about it is the Dragon Quarter is the stats regression angle in that you have limited resources to beat the game with (draogn meter whatever it was called You could see some light Resident Evil influences there in the design which made it unusual for a JRPG.

Posted by Hunter5024

@slag: Ah, I see. Well I agree Dragon Quarter is certainly good, but I still recommend 3 over it. Definitely try that one when you get the chance.

Posted by Hailinel

Dynasty Warriors 2 is your favorite? Did...did you play any of the others? Like, any of them at all? O_o

Posted by Slag

@hailinel said:

Dynasty Warriors 2 is your favorite? Did...did you play any of the others? Like, any of them at all? O_o

3, 3 Xtreme Legends and a little of 4.

2 is my favorite mainly due to context of when I played it. I think you told me once that you got into the series later yeah?

The thing about 2, is that when it came out I had literally never seen anything like it before. The NPC Mobs were incredible, I expected the PS2 to be able to render character models much better than the PS1, but I never expected it to be able to handle so many NPC AIs at once so well. The lack of Pop In (compared to my expectations) and draw distance felt insane at the time.

It, Midnight Club and Summoner were the first games I bought for my launch day PS2. Those other two were pretty mediocre (Summoner I disliked to the point that I actually returned it, something I've done maybe 3 times in my life), but man Dynasty Warriors 2 was an excellent proof of concept to me of what that gen of consoles could do. I played it nonstop for a couple months when it seemed like there were a ton of technically interesting but very mediocre games were all that was available, so it holds a lot of nostalgia value to me. Well that and Kessen, but mainly DW 2

While I haven't played a lot of the huge series, I doubt I'll ever like any better than 2 because of the huge tech innovation leap 2 demonstrated and when it came into my gaming life. That game to me was what Super Mario 64 was to me for the previous generation, or say Wii Sports in the next. The game that really made a compelling argument for the tech.

That being said if I were going to play a Dynasty Warriors game today, it probably wouldn't be 2 unless I just want to relive memories. I haven't played 7 or 8 but I'm sure they're better games technically in just about every way, that would make it hard to go back.

So yeah it's my favorite, it was a special game.

Posted by Hailinel

@slag: Well, I got into the series with Dynasty Warriors 3 and have played every entry in it since save for some of the expansions. I certainly wouldn't call DW3 my favorite, though. I enjoyed it back in the day and it's fun to go back to on occasion, but my favorite entry these days is either 7 or 8, simply for the giant leaps in every area from gameplay to narrative.

I actually played a bit of DW2 about a year or so ago just to see what it was like, and the thing that struck me was how primitive everything seemed, even compared to DW3. There are a lot of elements in the game that, while novel for their time, really didn't come into their own until DW3. Even the fonts used in the DW2 menus felt like they came straight out of the PS1 era.

Not trying to disparage your opinion or anything. It's just that I think you're the first person I have ever come across that could say that DW2 is your favorite in the series with a straight face.

Posted by Slag

@hailinel said:

@slag: Well, I got into the series with Dynasty Warriors 3 and have played every entry in it since save for some of the expansions. I certainly wouldn't call DW3 my favorite, though. I enjoyed it back in the day and it's fun to go back to on occasion, but my favorite entry these days is either 7 or 8, simply for the giant leaps in every area from gameplay to narrative.

I actually played a bit of DW2 about a year or so ago just to see what it was like, and the thing that struck me was how primitive everything seemed, even compared to DW3. There are a lot of elements in the game that, while novel for their time, really didn't come into their own until DW3. Even the fonts used in the DW2 menus felt like they came straight out of the PS1 era.

Not trying to disparage your opinion or anything. It's just that I think you're the first person I have ever come across that could say that DW2 is your favorite in the series with a straight face.

Oh I didn't think you were. I know you're very into the series, so I know you see and appreciate nuance in these games that I don't.

Totally can understand my opinion being an unusual one for this series. And if I had played DW 2 even a year later it probably would have had nowhere near the same impact on me that it did.The context imo is what is impossible for future DW games to recapture for me anyway.

I'm not sure that's something that can be fully appreciated unless you're playing it at the time. It's really hard to unsee how much better games are today, at least I have a very hard time doing that (it's why when I play an old series for the first time I usually try to play the oldest games first) . In your shoes playing it now for the first time a year ago, I doubt 2 would be very impressive at all. But to me Dw 2 was a landmark game,something that doesn't come by very often

3 was unquestionably a refinement, but I felt 2 got the big stuff right and was the more impressive game in context. In particular I did remember specifically thinking that 3 animated fire significantly better than 2 did, kind of a minor deal but man video game fire was rough back then. It's to Koei's credit that 2 was a fun game, not every game that makes that kind of leap is. e.g. GTA III I thought was clunky and muddy to the point of being unfun. Vice City fixed many of those problems enough to where I enjoyed it. .

But it's also worth mentioning that I don't equate "favorite" with "best" either. Dw 2 likely always will be my favorite but I have no illusions about its' relative quality vs later entries.