Agreed. They pretty much took what was there and just kind of got it out there since it had been in development so long. I kind of figured they knew there was -no- living up to such a huge pre-production hype... I mean... what game could? I just hope with owning the rights that if/when they do put out another Duke title it will be a better product as a whole. I still got my kicks out of DNF but much more is left to be mined imo.