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#1 Posted by SpaceInsomniac (4293 posts) -

If you like Pinball even a little bit, you should check into this. 40 digital pinball tables for 30 dollars is a pretty good deal, and most versions of the game even offer an unlimited play table for free, so you can try the game before you buy. If you don't have these tables yet, this is nice deal.

The rest of us hardcore fans can keep waiting for the UI improvements that the developers promised were coming well over 18 months ago. :(

#2 Posted by SpaceInsomniac (4293 posts) -

@l1ghtn1n said:

Got in after trying for the past hour, did 2-3 combos and got disconnected. Somehow more demoralizing than if I didn't get in...

I got in at around 4:30am EST last night, and even though it was supposed to end at 5am, It didn't kick me, so I was still playing matches for another hour. However it wasn't updating the player info at all so I missed out on a couple character levels.

I guess I'm going to be stupid enough to try to get in for a bit, though the hundreds of thousands of people doing this is just depressing on the whole so I should probably throw in the towel and say "No, Capcom, I am not a fucking idiot."

It's funny that the "So, who got into the Beta?" thread title now has a completely different meaning. Funny, but also kind of sad. :(

#3 Posted by SpaceInsomniac (4293 posts) -

@spaceinsomniac: they didn't pay for the beta, they paid for the game. Because they paid for the game before release, they were invited to participate in the beta. This is a none issue, capcom cares enough about their street fighter fans that they are willing to say sorry, they really didn't have to

And the only reason many people paid for the game over half a year in advance is because of the beta. I agree that is not personally the big deal some are making it out to be, but it's not exactly a non-issue, either. Again, this wouldn't be a problem if Capcom wouldn't have made their beta into part of a paid service, by locking it behind a pre-order.

#4 Posted by SpaceInsomniac (4293 posts) -

Does anyone else have any confessions about how they handle themselves online? This thread could be about so much more than the Xbox One launch. Anyone at all? Maybe how you handled yourself during gamergate? Whether you were on either side there was a lot of anger being thrown around. It could be nice to try to get that behind you. This includes more than death threats. It's easy to gang up on those you believe were wrong. We'll have an easier time getting past hate if we try to rise above it and be the first to offer forgiveness and understanding of the whole picture.

You're absolutely right, and I'm sorry to have been somewhat contributing to the derail. I definitely have some things to say in this area, but I'll have to post them when I have more time. Hopefully some others can continue the thread with its original purpose in mind until then.

#5 Edited by SpaceInsomniac (4293 posts) -

@zombie2011 said:
@spaceinsomniac said:
@zombie2011 said:
@encephalon said:

Not to take away from the sentiment of this post, but is there some means through which you could apologize to Mr. Orth directly?

Apologizing to him on the GB forums is a nice but ultimately empty gesture. Or perhaps just be more accurate and frame this thread as a confessional rather than an apology.

MS fired Orth over his comments due to the backlash from gamers. Guess he could by an Xbox: One and a copy of ADR1FT as an apology.

On a podcast he told the story of how he came up with Adr1ft and he is still not over being fired by MS, being a creative director at MS seems like a pretty hard job to get over. I mostly stay away from game news now because of i guess gamers would be the correct term here. They just seem like the hardest group of people to please, take offense to the slightest offence and never forget it even when it's corrected.

It was hypocritical bullshit to fire him, and then continue with the exact same awful plan. He should never have had to die on that sword, and it was wrong of MS to force him to do so. Was "Deal with it" honestly much more insulting than "[if you don't like our always online DRM garbage] we have console for you, it's called an Xbox 360"? That still sounds an awful lot like "deal with it" to me.

Looking back, that guy really did get a raw deal. :(

the reason he got fired was the backlash, i'm sure MS wouldn't have fired him until gamers decided to crucify him. It wasn't what he said it was the backlash from what he said that got him fired. Also not really hypocritical since they didn't continue with the plan after they fired him, they changed pretty much everything everyone was angry about.

I'm pretty sure he was fired long before MS announced that they were changing their always online plans, which is why I view it as hypocritical.

@bceagles128 said:

Woah woah woah woah. If anyone in my industry responded to legitimate customer concerns (or frankly, even if they responded that way to completely ridiculous and irrational customer concerns) with the words "deal with it", they would be fired on the spot. Your customers are the only reason that you have a salary. Fuck that guy. I hope he learned his lesson.

And I'm not saying you were right either. I don't know enough about what you did or said to contribute to the vitriol, but I'm more responding to the people who making making Orth out to be some victim because he was fired for responding rudely to customers. That is absurd. Don't bite the hand that feeds you. Period.

While I fully agree with not biting the hand that feeds, he was originally talking to a friend over twitter, but wasn't using private tweets. That changes things somewhat, and I do feel a bit sorry for the guy losing his job like that, at least looking back. Then again, internet mob or no, he probably stepped far too close to breaking the NDA I'm sure he was under. He certainly tipped Microsoft's hand when it came to their always online plans, so he arguably should have been fired for that.

Did he ever apologize, though? What was his side of the story? One thing I especially dislike about this modern internet call-out culture is when an apology does come, and people venomously reject it so they can continue looking down their noses at the "bad person." I still remember reading NeoGAF during a Penny Arcade controversy, and feeling sickened by all the self-righteous posts that gleefully, figuratively spat in the face of someone who was trying to say that they were sorry, and who fully admitted that they were wrong.

And that's when an explanation or apology is even known about in the first place. Many times, no one ever bothers to report the other side of the story, which is something I truly despise from most modern journalism, much less just gaming journalism.

#6 Posted by SpaceInsomniac (4293 posts) -

The issue is when you make a beta part of a pre-order program, you've made a very early and unreliable hardware / software test into a paid service, and that's kind of a dumb thing to do.

If Capcom just wanted to test their servers, they should made the beta free for anyone to try. They didn't do that, so people have a right to be upset if things aren't going smoothly. Capcom is extending the beta, which is good enough for me, but it's all subjective.

Should be interesting to see if this happens again with Black Ops III, though.

#7 Edited by SpaceInsomniac (4293 posts) -

@zombie2011 said:
@encephalon said:

Not to take away from the sentiment of this post, but is there some means through which you could apologize to Mr. Orth directly?

Apologizing to him on the GB forums is a nice but ultimately empty gesture. Or perhaps just be more accurate and frame this thread as a confessional rather than an apology.

MS fired Orth over his comments due to the backlash from gamers. Guess he could by an Xbox: One and a copy of ADR1FT as an apology.

On a podcast he told the story of how he came up with Adr1ft and he is still not over being fired by MS, being a creative director at MS seems like a pretty hard job to get over. I mostly stay away from game news now because of i guess gamers would be the correct term here. They just seem like the hardest group of people to please, take offense to the slightest offence and never forget it even when it's corrected.

It was hypocritical bullshit to fire him, and then continue with the exact same awful plan. He should never have had to die on that sword, and it was wrong of MS to force him to do so. Was "Deal with it" honestly much more insulting than "[if you don't like our always online DRM garbage] we have console for you, it's called an Xbox One"? That still sounds an awful lot like "deal with it" to me.

Looking back, that guy really did get a raw deal. :(

#8 Edited by SpaceInsomniac (4293 posts) -

@john1912 said:

I thought everyone who pre orders gets in. Is that not the case? Im getting PC, havent pre ordered yet. Id get the PS4 version but I have a 360 TE fight stick that I obviously would want to use on my PC.

I think that's only true in the US. In the UK and several other areas, you had to sign up with Capcom and hope you got in.

#9 Posted by SpaceInsomniac (4293 posts) -

This thread reminded me of a video I saw a couple weeks ago:

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I believe this is also why some game tournaments have separate male and female competitions, despite it seeming like that wouldn't matter.

#10 Edited by SpaceInsomniac (4293 posts) -

@jakob187 said:
@babychoochoo said:

My only worry is that the amount of fight money required to unlock a character...

This is basically just the same kind of system you would find in League of Legends or something. Shouldn't take long at all.

The bigger problem is that people constantly bitched about Capcom putting out on-disc DLC before, but now that they are giving you a "free" way to unlock it (despite having to still pay $60 for the game), everything is hunky-dory? It's such an ass-backwards way of thinking IMO.

Nonetheless, at least you can get the DLC without having to spend extra money? Yay?

I believe they've confirmed that the only characters that will need to be purchased are those who are created as post-release DLC. There's no on-disc DLC this time.