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#1  Edited By SpaceInsomniac

@zicdab said:

I love the bitching and complaining about the lack of women at a video game conference but not:

-female genital mutilation

-women being banned from going to school

-women having to cover themselves in public

-women being banned from driving

-women being banned from work or needing their husband's permission to do so

-women being forced into sexual slavery

Those are just a few things, and yes, I realize this is a video game website and that I am going off topic, but if you are going to get this upset about such a minor thing and seek some sort of "justice", maybe you should start looking at other places and situations that need your help. Those who claim to be "feminists" should probably start helping females that actually need it. God this is such a bad idea for me to post this.

To all that, I would suggest that it's far more common for people to be concerned with what actually concerns them. You could call it selfish, but it's really just human nature. How much money have you spent on gaming in the last year? And how many donations have you made to 3rd world nation causes? It's basically the same thing, and there's nothing wrong with that. But I do get your point that when it comes to sexism, there are much bigger fish to fry than this.

The thing that I personally don't like about the feminist movement is that it strikes me as wanting to eliminate every possible situation where men have an advantage over women, while doing nothing about situations where women have a large advantage over men. Those they just cast those aside under the umbrella of "benevolent sexism," and claim that they're not happy about that either, all while doing absolutely nothing to bring about any change that could disadvantage women in any possible way. This seems to be the case even in the face of blatant sexism that favors women, child custody being one good example.

That's not equality, and that's why I no longer consider myself to be a feminist.

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I spent some time on a post and it didn't send. So if this doesn't work, I'm done.

Elizabeth Deloria's big issue is that the career choices of women do not reflect her gender ideology.

There is an under representation of women in software development. We're told this is 'a problem'.

There is an under representation of women in the sanitation industry. Is this a problem?

There is an under representation of women in construction. Is this a problem?

There is an under representation of men in nursing. Is this a problem?

There is an under representation of men in college graduation numbers. Problem?

See, the difference between equality and gender ideology is that equality believes everyone is free to make their own decisions independent of their gender. Gender ideology believes that if their preferred gender isn't receiving the majority of what they consider prestigious positions, independent of their merit, then there is 'a problem'. Even though women make up the majority of college graduates, if they're not choosing STEM fields, there is 'a problem'. Elizabeth Deloria is unhappy with the choices women have made.

Don't believe in gender ideology, kids. Believe in equality.

To expand upon this, I thought I'd add my post from another thread that was dealing with this issue.

Yeah, this is the case. Women simply aren't drawn to STEM fields in the numbers that men are, and for some reason this outrages some people. If it didn't, the poster in this video would never have existed:

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The thing is, there's absolutely NOTHING wrong with not having many women in STEM fields, if most women themselves don't want to be in those fields. There was a great comment from a women on NeoGAF concerning this issue, which I'll quote here:

Quick anecdote for everyone. I had to go to a nursing legislation conference a couple weeks ago. There was not a single male speaker the entire conference. Furthermore, the majority of attendees were women. There were door prizes given out if you signed up and they were all lotion baskets, or pink scrubs, and were all gifts for women. The men were told over loud speaker that all male bathrooms on the first floor were now female bathrooms for the duration of the conference to accommodate everyone. The males attending were told to go to the basement to use the bathroom.

I can't imagine anyone telling women at a majority male event to go use the bathroom in the basement.

If you have major issues with the lack of women in STEM fields (including being outraged by the lack of women at the Sony conference), and have absolutely no problem with the lack of male nurses or teachers, there's a word for that. That word isn't "feminist," it's "hypocrite."

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@extomar said:

We might as well wonder: If the next xbox includes anti-used game software, what is your plan for lunch?

I'm thinking a turkey sandwich and some chips.

Keep in mind, though, anti-used game features mean more than just "oh, poor gamestop will go out of business and game developers will actually get money when you buy their games, boo hoo," if your view is that narrow minded. Anti-used game technology would also mean:

1) No loaning games to friends, or borrowing their games.

2) No taking games to a friends house without bringing along your entire game console.

3) An almost certain requirement to always be connected to the internet.

4) A strong likelihood that no used games would also mean no game rentals.

Frankly, I'm a bit surprised that most of you don't seem to care about these issues.

At any rate, I realize that not every example is covered by the poll options. Sorry about that, but just go with whatever is closest to your situation.

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#4  Edited By SpaceInsomniac

@oldirtybearon said:

@chrissedoff said:

@oldirtybearon said:

But how and why is it a problem?

Women aren't on stage because women aren't really that into STEM fields, of which "video game developer" falls under. Do we really need to manufacture diversity when the truth is that women in general just don't give a shit about making games? How do we force them to, then? And if we do force them into it, isn't that just as bad as the oft-cited oppression they faced pre-feminist revolution in the 1960's? Aren't we then dictating to them who they are and what they get to be?

I thought feminism's big goal was about giving women the freedom to choose who they want to be and what they want to do? So if they're choosing not to be engineers, why the hell is it a problem when none of the engineers on stage for Sony's event are women?

Also that black cat cosplayer is a douche.

My sister has a master's in physics from one of the best universities in the world and works as an engineer. The idea that women aren't interested in science or engineering is horseshit and while I acknowledge that it would be pointless to seek out women to put on stage at a press conference purely for the sake of diversity, it's despicable to imply that any woman that we might see at video game press conferences wouldn't know what she's talking about.

First of all, big ups to your sister. Give her a pat on the back for me.

Second of all, I referred to women in general. And whether you want to be an uppity prick about it or not, the data says that the majority of women in post secondary education have avoided STEM related fields of study. They prefer to do other shit. Of course there are women who make games and enjoy making them, just as your physics sister probably enjoys her work. However, it doesn't stop the rest of the field from being predominantly male because not a lot of women are interested in those fields.

Yeah, this is the case. Women simply aren't drawn to STEM fields in the numbers that men are, and for some reason this outrages some people. If it didn't, the poster in this video would never have existed:

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The thing is, there's absolutely NOTHING wrong with not having many women in STEM fields, if most women themselves don't want to be in those fields. There was a great comment from a women on NeoGAF concerning this issue, which I'll quote here:

Quick anecdote for everyone. I had to go to a nursing legislation conference a couple weeks ago. There was not a single male speaker the entire conference. Furthermore, the majority of attendees were women. There were door prizes given out if you signed up and they were all lotion baskets, or pink scrubs, and were all gifts for women. The men were told over loud speaker that all male bathrooms on the first floor were now female bathrooms for the duration of the conference to accommodate everyone. The males attending were told to go to the basement to use the bathroom.

I can't imagine anyone telling women at a majority male event to go use the bathroom in the basement.

If you have major issues with the lack of women in STEM fields (including being outraged by the lack of women at the Sony conference), and have absolutely no problem with the lack of male nurses or teachers, there's a word for that. That word isn't "feminist," it's "hypocrite."

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There are two things I find worse than any of those:

- The systematic removal of color from the entire video game industry.

- "Cinematic" music replacing anything with melody.

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#6  Edited By SpaceInsomniac
@DJNeckspasm said:

I had one customer tell me the company I worked for encouraged "niggerly" behavior because we cut off his internet until he paid his bill.


Are you sure he didn't say niggardly instead? http://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/muddle#word=niggardly  Not that I'd go and make that word a part of my vocabulary anytime soon. 
 
And it wouldn't be the first time that word has caused problems for someone: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/longterm/williams/williams020499.htm
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Personally, I thought it might be interesting.  The main thing that I took away from that article is that many of the women focused far too much on WHY the statue was sexist and offensive towards women, instead of just calling it disrespectful to ALL gamers in general.   
 
I see things like this, and it just reconfirms the fact that I never tell anyone I play video games until I find out that they do first.  Non-gamers see things like this and it just lowers their already low opinion of video games as a hobby, and anyone who enjoys playing them. 

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#9  Edited By SpaceInsomniac
@Miketakon said:

@HisDudeness: Keep this in mind Resident Evil 4 was Nintendo exclusive at one point.

The problem with this logic is that Nintendo didn't publish Resident Evil 4 after Capcom sold them the rights to the entire franchise, because that's exactly what happened with Bayonetta. 
 
Sega is a company of fools, and Nintendo took advantage of that fact.
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@TaliciaDragonsong said:
They made an error and instead of fixing it they decided to let everyone else (ie: people who don't spend all day online/able to down the thing before MS fixes it) have it anyway and people are mad?  
Technically, they made an error and instead of fixing it, they let it continue for over 24 hours while official Microsoft representatives told people that they would be able to keep the maps if they were able to download them.  They should have just fixed the issue as soon as possible, and cut their losses.  Instead, they're making up some BS "trial" excuse, after specifically telling customers otherwise.  
 
https://twitter.com/XboxSupport1/status/278254316253507584 
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10268354&postcount=292 
 
I'm not upset about losing maps I didn't pay for.  I am somewhat bothered by MS not owning up to their mistake--even if they wouldn't admit making one--and instead lying to customers with this "trial version" nonsense.   
 
Either way, I have to say that I feel deeply sorry for anyone working in MS customer service next week.