SpicyRichter's forum posts

#1 Posted by SpicyRichter (530 posts) -

@extomar said:

This is why this argument is madness. We all have connections and yet we can still comment and record and share them without damaging or endangering the "public trust". In fact you are doing it right now.

The average Joe posting on a message board isn't claiming to be a journalist, critic or anything other than the average rabble. Those claiming to be journalists need to be held to at least some level of standard, or else it's just more rabble.

#2 Posted by SpicyRichter (530 posts) -

@random45 said:

I don't really understand the hostility towards this word to be honest. My friend was going on a rant similar to a lot of people in this thread, and all I could wonder was why it bothered him so much, haha.

Mountain Dew broke it :(

#3 Posted by SpicyRichter (530 posts) -

@extomar said:

@n1nj4d00m said:

@extomar said:

@n1nj4d00m:

Just out of curiosity what would you write if Patrick wrote something new on Zoe Quinn? If you have a slightly positive thought about Giantbomb, Patrick or anything else then I guess you can't say anything less you violate some trust.

Patrick's connections to Zoe are well established:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGiUHF2iqkY

As far as I know he hasn't given Zoe any money or vice versa. I don't really agree with Patrick's stance on a lot of issues he brings up, but he seems like a games journalist who takes the ethics side of things very seriously. I'm sure if he did write an article it would clearly disclose any level of personal involvement with her. Again, the issue isn't the fact that people have connections in the industry, its when those are kept secret from the public.

The funny thing is you didn't answer the question. If what you take to heart the things you claim about "public trust" then it isn't about Patrick but ABOUT YOU.

I don't follow. The question is what would I write if Patrick wrote something new on Zoe? I probably wouldn't write anything. He clearly has some type of relationship with her that goes beyond a dev/reporter one, they have collaborated on at least one presentation together. That is clearly established in the public sphere and not hidden away on a patreon contributor page. So I wouldn't really see anything unethical there because his relationship is well known.

If Patrick is to continue his quest to be seen as more of a journalist and less of an enthusiast, would you see this relationship (or any other personal relationship with a game developer) as appropriate? Or would you see it as potentially damaging to his credibility and ability to be seen as objective?

#4 Posted by SpicyRichter (530 posts) -

@hatking said:

@spicyrichter said:

Would it be considered edgy to use it as hold music?

Because my work just asked me to replace the hold music.

Just hire a live band.

Only if I can beatbox

#5 Posted by SpicyRichter (530 posts) -

@valjean9430 said:

I want impartiality when reporters are talking about facts, issues, etc. People respect (good) partiality when it comes to criticism. Games journalism isn't really field reporting, it's much more like criticism of art with a minor emphasis on how the game is delivered.

You're confusing journalism with critique. A critic, like Roger Ebert, watches movies and gives you an opinion on it. A journalist collects and shares stories and information for an audience. Most critics want to use methods and reasoning for their opinions that are as objective as possible, or at very least, communicate their opinions in ways people can best understand. Most journalists are concerned with communicating accurate information in a manner as truthful and objective as possible, or at very least, communicate that information in ways people can best understand. Hence why most journalists have a distinction between reporting a story and delivering an editorial. The problem, if you choose to believe there is one, is when editorials are considered all journalism is, and information exists only so far as the editorial position requires it.

So per your argument, both journalists and critics need to be objective. What are you trying to say here?

#6 Posted by SpicyRichter (530 posts) -

... in the words of @brad, 'If you look down on someone because of the games someone plays, you might just be an insufferable person'

#7 Posted by SpicyRichter (530 posts) -

I kinda don't mean to put all this down but damn, this is about video games journalism.

I mean.... what exactly is that?

I want impartiality when reporters are talking about facts, issues, etc. People respect (good) partiality when it comes to criticism. Games journalism isn't really field reporting, it's much more like criticism of art with a minor emphasis on how the game is delivered.

Are we really that worried if people are being mislead about how much fun a game is? Especially when we can load up twitch or youtube and check out gameplay firsthand nowadays? Really, I come to this website because these celebrities are hilarious and they are pretty good curators when it comes to new games.

You make an excellent point, but I think most people's criticism comes down to the nepotism and cronyism that seems to be rampant in the industry. Like an old boys club, but there's girls there? er.. anyway, there's a lot of people trying to break into the small games industry, and I think people are starting to see that unless you're part of the club, good luck getting the coverage that small games need. The press funding kickstarter campaigns is a small symptom of this.

#8 Posted by SpicyRichter (530 posts) -

@spicyrichter said:

Is it really that hard for games writers to avoid donating to games? Just avoid it completely and there won't be any questions about integrity. Having a few dozen individuals not contribute won't sink a game if it is destined to be made.

In defense of Zoe and any other developers who have had the press contribute to their games, I'm not sure that giving money to a product you believe in is any different from doing a positive preview of a game you're looking forward to. It would only be an issue of integrity if your money was an investment rather than a donation, at least in my opinion.

Well, I'm not targeting anyone in general, but if you want to be taken seriously as a critic or journalist, just avoid the whole thing until it's released and they send you a review copy. It can't really be that hard can it? Call it drawback of the job.

Then you can avoid being criticized for using your position to push an agenda. If, god forbid, it ever came to that of course.

#9 Posted by SpicyRichter (530 posts) -

Didn't know it existed but I just listened to some Hong Kong Express and while I don't dislike it, it's just not my cup of tea. It is a hell of a lot better than any hold music I've had the misfortune of suffering through though @spicyrichter, you should do it!

Alright, tomorrow I'm going to rip some videos and intersperse it with some down pitched 'We appriciate your call' nonsense. I'll just tell them it is from the hold music library.

#10 Posted by SpicyRichter (530 posts) -

Would it be considered edgy to use it as hold music?

Because my work just asked me to replace the hold music.