Perrsona will be a PS3 game not a next gen one. Besides for 500$ you can also buy a PC which will outpower both consoles if you want to care about that the most. Otherwise Gamestop did actually confirm that they stopped taking pre-orders so the Yield problems Microsoft seems to have seems bigger than expected. Maybe you can even see a Console delay at worst case.

Just report him. Sooner or later his karma will be to low to post anymore.

I agree with what you said about retailers and an all-digital future, and how that impacts pricing...in fact, that's exactly my point. Those retailers simply aren't going anywhere this generation, and won't until the ps5/xbox two at the earliest. That's why I am saying that steam prices are a ways away.

That's also why this doesn't come down to marketing, it comes down to customer perception. Microsoft has marketed this product at a simple, easy, elegant, connected device, but it's being perceived as an anti-consumer device. The market cannot, and will not, change until the consumer-base embraces it. Microsoft tried to rush a change this gen, and built a console around it, and the consumers responded. Sony can still totally do everything MS is doing, but it didn't commit as heavily, and I think that's smart because of the pricing rationale you and I just discussed.

I've already preordered my Playstation 4 and I'll get that at launch, but I'll most likely own both before this generation is said and done. Honestly I only picked the PS4 because I keep my consoles in a tiny room and doubt kinect would work and I'm super cheap.

@the_laughing_man:

Nice blog post and yeah, I agree with you that the way Microsoft's PR handled the reveal and E3 was a mess. The way some people here have jumped at you for choosing the Xbone is why I haven't outright stated I'm probably picking the Xbone as well (well that's outta the bag).

The DRM, daily check-ins and kinect are non-issues to me as well so I never felt Microsoft was actively trying to take away my rights except for the 2014 release for Asia but I've never been an early adopter anyway. Between both systems I'm way more interested in the games on Xbone and that's really just it, I want to play games like Quantum Break, Titanfall, Dead Rising 3 and even Ryse (that E3 demo impressed me!). Nothing on Sony's side remotely interests me at all since MGS V, FFXV and Kingdom Hearts 3 went multi-platform (huge sigh of relief there!).

The game sharing could be a pretty neat system since I play with friends across countries in Asia pretty regularly and mailing games to each other just to lend them a game is quite the hassle. As long as I can control who's playing my game and it lets me play mine when I want to then I'm fine with it. Heck, Steam doesn't even do that.

Kinect I have no qualms with, the people saying it's going to spy on you sound like the people with tinfoil hats on and paste post-it notes on their laptop camera and door peephole. If it really is spying then we'll find out and I can always turn it to face the wall.

So, who knows? Maybe there are worse announcements at Gamescom that'll change my mind but for now, more power to you Laughing Man, and the world needs a reminder every now and then that Cowboy Bebop is fantastic.

I just have a strange feeling that there is something Sony is not telling us. I do not know if its just me but something seems off.

What should that be? IT is not really a conspiracy thing and if they would do it now it would be a marketing disaster. Even more than Microsoft now has.

While i agree i would also say it's also about ease of communicating whats new and different easily not just to us gamers but parents and other non gamers.

We don't fully understand microsofts polices how do you expect gamespot employees to explain it to mums and dads. I can see a sihtstorm brewing for christmas with parents complaining on tv about how they have fallen foul of xbox ones new polices.

But if mommy and daddy buy them the X1 then chances are they all ready have that thing connected to the internet.

I can't find anything burning about Fox News reporting on XONE.. Hmm.. .

Thank you. I knew I might get some flack for it but its a lot better then I thought. The only people who are being idiots are the known trolls and these new accounts that showed up around the time of the E3 stuff.

I'm worried publisher being the only source to buy and a game being in control of pricing will not lead to lower prices. The competition in the retail space, particularly Amazon and Walmart, leads to pretty good prices. After 2 or 3 months you can find most games for 50, 40, even 30 dollars. What worries, for example is check the retail price for Bioshock Infinite and the digital. Its 40 for the disc copy and 60 for the digital version.

??? whats that have to do with anything chances are yes it will run a game its not like thats the only new policy and even in the best case senario you should know how things like the internet works they will just be shouting loud enough to get heard and probably pick up attention that way.

Regardless of how worthless there comment is to the conversation people would still reply to it.Your responce and my reply being the perfect example of this in practice.

I am saying the average person who buys the system most likely will not run into the issue of none internet. Ok maybe not the average person. You also underestimate the average consumer. I also assume that MS will have to put some sort of label on the box to let people know about the connection IF they do not change that before release.

And I am sure MS did research about this. They most likely paid a lot of money for studies and the what not about how this would effect them.

Just an example, but my semi-rural area only has Verizon 3g/4g as internet. I don't live in a desert, just an area that's a little spread out. Guess what, a lot of people play games here. The bandwidth cap for most people here is 5gb a month. This ins't a rare occurrence, many people are still in this predicament.

If you had a bandwidth cap you can easily be careful. The check in is KILOBYTES.

10,48,576 = 1 gig. There is no way you would even come near a cap with that small of a month.

I'm mean because I didn't lose my shit over a bad child actor and cutscenes? I hate on the Xbox one for reasons I've articulated. It's also a hot topic in gaming right now, and I'm interested in gaming. And I'm on a gaming website. On a gaming forum. In a forum for the Xbone. In a thread discussing the Xbone.

I'm also amazed by the narrative that Quantum Break is a system seller when we've seen nothing of value. I was more impressed by almost every game shown. I'm vastly more interested in Titanfall, The Division, Watch Dogs, D4, etc. Quantum Break seems to just get credit for nothing. Call the police, I guess?

There's only one thing that can make me think about getting a XB1. Price of games. If the whole DRM thing is basically like Steam, then it should behave like it. We all know that the first month or two of the game being released its going to get the most sales based on the hype and anticipation going into it. So for the first two months or so, have the games be full price, I get that, people want to make money. But then if XB1 starts putting their games on sale like Steam does, I would gladly understand all the DRM stuff.

Ya if Sony or MS wants to compete with Steam they need to make digital stuff cheaper. So far all we know is that physical games are staying the same price.

Weren't you trolling Xbox support on twitter just a day or two ago?

Look up though the thread. I was prodding them to clarify their statement. It goes along with the issues with proper information they had been giving out. One person says something and another says a utterly different thing. Then someone else higher up has to clear it up.

I'm glad there will be more posts like this, and like every other console it will split the community down the middle no matter what and the eternal loop of the internet hate machine will begin again.

I for one love video games, just the idea of them, after playing last of us, and seeing trailers for a lot of the newer games it excites me more about the pure ability to create worlds that studios are getting more and more capable of with technology following the times.

I will be picking up a ps4 probably just because I found myself in the ps3 era liking that console better, the community and online experience wasn't a big thing for me, but it served that purpose enough when I needed it.

I don't hate the xbox and I don't think it's a bad system, it's doing cool stuff and so is the ps4, so go buy a X1 and have a tall cold one on me. I'm going to go get my ps4 and we can high five later my good man.

@sdharrison: Like I said, we know enough. People are excited for GTA 5 with zero gameplay, it's not really rocket science.

Your first post here and the post when someone posted their Xbox One preorder(and most of the posts in between) show your true colors. There's no reason to pretend that you're some level-headed person who has legitimate problems with the console. Someone expressed that they want to buy the Xbox and you say "This is why we can't have nice things." You're a troll.

Lol go read my posts man, I haven't been mean.

Yep. This was an impromptu, unscheduled interview. You can tell that they both really were not prepared and AJ spends a lot of his time reading. He even fixes his own camera at one point.

Why do you discuss something you hate so much? You just seem to come into threads and harp on people for liking Xbox One. If you don't like, don't buy it and don't talk about it. I mean do what you want, but that's usually what a sensible person does. It's IMPOSSIBLE to have a positive Xbox One thread in these forums because people like you and some other select users.

If you want to buy it, buy and don't talk about it.

See what I did there?

I am heading onto bed. Thank you all for reading this and posting. I look forward to the 50 billion messages in my inbox since it sends one there when someone posts AND when someone quotes me.

This started mainly as bordem but half way though it was something I wanted to get off my chest. I have no beef with Sony and hope both systems do well and game developers push the limits on both. The only ones who benefit from this sort of rivalry is us the consumers. To win customers and sale they will be forced to push the limits of graphics, gameplay and story telling.

Again thank you all for reading. Now play nice wile I am gone.

@sdharrison: Yeah I did, but mine was better because it actually made sense.

@sdharrison: You need to read my post again, I said you were a troll, not mean.

You think you made some sort of point with that "see what I did there" shit. Someone who goes into a thread and talks crap about a game they have no intention of ever buying is called a troll, for good reason. This is no different.

Anyways, I'm actually going to contribute to this thread. If I had to choose a console right now, I think it would be the Xbox One. Luckily, I don't because it's like 60/40. Having never had a PS3, switching for the hell of it appeals to me in some weird way. The DS4 seems really nice. Having to pay for Kinect when it's pretty clear that the damn thing isn't needed for games is annoying.

I agree about Sunset Overdrive, that's probably the game I'm most excited to see. I'm not a MGS guy so that trailer just bewildered me. none of that looks fun. Can't say I'm into TitanFall, either. Plus that game is so obviously a timed deal but maybe it wowed you enough to have it ASAP.

I came out of E3 happy that 60 fps is going to be a thing, even with the Wii U. Dedicated servers are confirmed for a bunch of games, too.

Love you guys.

Seemingly lost in all the used game and required online debate is the fact that the PS4 is potentially 50% more powerful and 100 dollars cheaper.

That's why I'm going with a PS4 first.

I agree with all of your points and I was actually about to write a similar blog myself before seeing the comments section here. Microsoft PR has been absolutely appalling, and all the executives they are trotting around seem dickish and out of touch. I have however chosen to look past the PR on both sides and make my decisions based on the product itself.

Aside from Titanfall, none of the exclusives really looked far enough along to be called games (in my opinion).

And am I the only one who thought that the art style in Sunset Overdrive looks like absolute garbage? Those player characters looked hideous.

@hollitz: I thought it was just the hair that looked godawful. Other than it seemed good to me.

I'm so tired of these "I'm going to be edgy and say XBONE is the system to get!"

Does every person who decided the exclusives and features of it are worth it needs to announce it to the world?

To clarify, I don't want to be a dick to the guy who made this blog. I understand that with all the Microsoft hype you might want to talk about your reasons you think it's a good system. But you shouldn't have to sell Microsoft's system for them.

@the_laughing_man:

Yet you do not answer the most pertinent question. Why not a PS4? It's cheaper. It's more powerful. It has none of the stuff you need to justify yourself for with a blog post like this.

That guy in AC3 heard he was getting an X1 for Christmas.

You are of cause free to choose, we are free people. The thing about the Xbox one succeeding is that, it sets a precedents for other corporations that they can do anything and the consumers will swallow it. Gaming as great, we all love gaming but we have to draw the line somewhere. With the information that Microsoft is the FIRST company to sign up for the NSA thing, I have no idea how anyone can trust Microsoft ever again. Aside from the DRM thing the Xbox one is a great piece of hardware, it is the precedent it sets that is truly terrifying.

And please don't come to me saying "oh don't be so melodramatic!" I remember a couple of years ago with the rise of smartphone, people were saying the government were tracking us and people say those guys are paranoid/crazy. Not so crazy now are they?

Choosing a Xbox One does not make you wrong but I truly believe that in the long run it sets a precedent that will slowly but surely destroy consumer's rights.

I thought he answered that he just saw more X1 games that he preferred. Of course, many will be multi-platform, but there will be some exclusives.

I don''t think they researched anything if you get applause on a Jimmy Felon Show because he said you don't need an Internet connection you know Microsoft did nothing like that. They assumed it because of Phones and people are using tablets but not with consoles. Consoles are different.

heh. Let's not be silly, shinji. As Jon Stewart(and later John Oliver) pointed out in The Daily Show segment, "Good News: You're Not Paranoid", he just knew that people would now be able to use the NSA surveillance and IRS targeting as excuses for legitimizing -any- conspiracy theories or biggest fears some might have, and while there is reason to be concerned about what the NSA is doing(which doesn't have to do with new cellphone technology; it has to do with government overreach in the War on Terror), that doesn't mean any possible fear you could ever have about something is rational or appropriate.

The issue with the Xbox One is whether it's a device with features you want, not whether it's a threat to our very way of life.

I saw that tonight on Jimmy Fallon, and I think that's to be expected, considering how Sony has successfully played this. I'm inclined to share Jeff's thought on this. Which is that they must have done market research and come to the conclusion that their long term prospects were good regardless of initial, natural pushback. I imagine they didn't expect this level of pushback, but then, a lot of that comes down to how poorly they've handled their messaging, allowing rumors to become stronger than reality and guesses to rule their responses.

It has been a PR disaster. Yet, I don't think any major console maker would ever make these decisions without thinking that it will pay off for them in the long run, and even if this does mean a rocky start, ala. the PS3 and Sony's insistence on people getting "a second job" to afford it and developers taking a few years to really learn it, they are certainly by no means dead before they've even begun. They must have known there would be pushback on any big changes, and it's likely they just intend to ride it out until the games and features eventually sell it. We'll see if that actually happens, but you can bet they continue to have their long term success in mind.

Of cause I am not suggesting it will somehow destroy my life but corporation and governing bodies have shown over the course of human history that when they have too much power/freedom they will abuse that power. I was really surprise to hear Nestle even suggested the idea of privatizing water? What happen when what they suggest become true? I am 100% sure it wont but what if? I thought about the level of hubris it must take for them to even suggest the idea. That is what I am talking about.

When I go to a restaurant and get the wrong order, most of the time I just tell them its ok just change my order to this. The result of that is now when I go to that restaurant the lazy waiter would bring me wrong order on purpose so they can get rid of order that have been sitting there. The owner eventually told me what happen and fire that waiter after he learn of it. I am saying it is a slippery slope sometimes and I think this is one of those times. Other than the DRM push tho, I love the look of Fantasia (we asian loves Disney, what can I say.)

I still can't buy one if I wanted, but I guess MS knows what they are doing. Just throw up all the terrible stuff up front, and over time people will think 'oh, hey...it's really not THAT bad' and buy one anyway. Trading on the good will build up over the 360.

Apparently, that philosophy works, which is sorta depressing.

Telling someone to get a second job, as in work 80 hours a week to afford a gaming console versus telling men and women at arms that they'll just have to play another console in their downtime?

Yah, I'd say thats a lot worse.

To be honest, shinji, you kind of lost me, especially with that restaurant part. heh. I mean, I definitely understand concerns over the implications of new technology, and we'll always have those with devices trying new things. I just don't see how this is particularly special in its threat. If it turns out to infringe on something, we'll deal with that, but right now, none of what it's offering seems more restrictive than a personal computer. Or my cellphone. For a videogame console, it's certainly more of a push toward treating physical and digital the same, as PC games have done for over a decade, but as far as an actual consumer device, it isn't somehow worse than a ton of other devices in our lives.

I can perfectly respect that some might consider the Xbox One a console they don't want(I'm leaning toward the PS4 myself), but for people to suggest that it is particularly worse or more threatening than numerous other devices that are already widely accepted in society just gives me the impression that somehow the Xbox One just woke some gamers up to how a device could possibly be a concern for them. For a videogame console, I get why people don't like the feeling of suddenly being forced into something that they will eventually give up willingly over time, but that's something you can affect by just choosing to buy something else.

The possible success of the Xbox One isn't some new or truly imposing threat. It's just another in a long line of instances wherein consumers of modern electronics are giving up flexibility in the hopes of greater convenience. Apple has basically made a business of that kind of tradeoff. There isn't something special here as far as consumer devices go; there's only something special here as far as videogame consoles go. And while that can concern some people, we shouldn't mislead ourselves into thinking that there is more here than there is.

If you don't like the features this console is offering, then don't buy it, and if you like another console's features, perhaps purchase it instead and enjoy the games that will be coming out on it in the future.

That is true. I have never deny anyone their rights to choose. I guess to sum it up. Requiring the Kinect to be hook up all the time for the Xbox one to work is wrong and even tho you can "turn it off" it is still require to be plug in and powered. That is a very real and I believe, not at all far fetch worry for a lot of people, considering the NSA information that came to light. That amount of information/power should not and can not be manage by the best of governing body let alone a corporation, if this happens it will be abuse no doubt about that. That is the slippery slope I was talking about. It is the kinect today with the ever watching eyes, what will come out tomorrow? now that this is acceptable?

The used game stuff I believe will eventually soft itself out, as well as the 24 check in thing. Steam like sales will take care of those issue, Sony is already doing it and Microsoft is trying.

Of cause it matters very little to me since I will go pc this gen. FFxv is being considered to be release for pc so if that happen bye bye console. And for the record I do like the Xbox one it is the policies and the kinect that sickens me.

CUZ GAMEZ BRO! GAMEZ.

Perfect Dark Zero was the reason I went XBOX 360. No regrets.

(But yeah. I agree.)

I came here to read about the games, but with all due respect I stopped because I personally don't like your take on games. No disrespect though, duder.

I think games are more than just ideas and concepts.

*batshit insane stories a mixture of technology and mystical crap that could more or less just be made into a feature film. So yes Metal Gear Solid 5. Sold on it.

*The idea of a fully technological run future has amazed me.

*a fast paced open world shooter with a chaotic feel to it and not taking its self serious has my attention.

No hate or anything, but I personally have a problem with people who focus more on the pitch of the game rather than the actual real-time gameplay it offers. Games shouldn't "sound" amazing, they shouldn't win you over with their setting and concept, the pitch, but rather what they deliver on in actuality, what they let you do and how they let you p.l.a.y.

I think this current gen was severely damaged and harmed by all the consumers letting developers get away with broken games or rehashed gameplay just because the premise is "exciting" and "has our attention." Too much dreaminess, not enough gameplay focus.

But hey, I'm glad you're content with your reasoning and have made a decision :)

Edit: I just noticed that you listed 4 games, 3 of which will be multiplatform.. So you're buying an Xbone for Sunset Overdrive?