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America started with such good intentions...

 But as time passed... Those who have the power (or money) found ways to take advantage of this system and get away with it.

This has gone on for too long... while some of us haven't even realized it.

It's getting to a point where I feel like there's a breaking point soon.

Like a calm before the storm... I might be just writing this in the heat of the moment

but I think I can intuitively feel that people are waking up now.

Waking up to this problem that is so profound and complicated...

That those in authority did good to keep us disillusioned for so long.

The nationalism... The propaganda... What is it all for?

I think the government has been tryjng to find ways to control their citizens since the dawn of them.

As... it gives their own team more power.

It's always a struggle for them to find the balance of how much they can do evil and injustice while getting away with it.

The intentions to build a country based on values of equality and justice has been slowly turning into a monster... With so much power that it is near unstoppable.

The most practical thing to do... in a situation of authority is that you should always try to control their minds... It makes them easier to control as you see... Like sheeples.

... It is a dark world were living in... but before this game ends... The most practical thing to do is play the game... That's what those in authority says, and it's probably something that they want you to think.

... But play the game at what costs?... in this world where selfish traits are the norm and the trend of understanding is a thing of long past.... It would destroy the values that I have...

And what makes me for me.

... What I am talking about is the corporations and government... In this world of advertising and with the help of technology. It is possible now to sell a single product to millions of customers. These corporations get all these money by all the mainstream people buying them but they don't really give any of that money back...

It's like the circulation of money is stopped. I am sure this is a problem which alarmed some of you before... and I am sure it was just too big and complicated to attack it.

But we can't just ignore it because it's big and complicated.

It's so big and complicated that it's affecting almost everyone on this planet.

The banks too... what a fucking great idea that was.

The middle class is falling down... and all the wealth is going to those of the chosen few.

I am not saying socialism is the answer... but the BALANCE OF CAPITALISM AND FAIRNESS.

We all know the advantages of capitalism and socialism... but just like a lot of things in life... I think balance is the answer.

Capitalism worked well when America first started with it... THAT'S because we didn't have all these assholes that buys Government people and because of technology.

We can't have all the wealth going to these few guys... but we can't give everything equally to people either.

It's becoming a damn huge problem that's affecting most of us... So why don't we speak up and be at least a tad bit mad about it?

Violence is not the answer though...

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 But as time passed... Those who have the power (or money) found ways to take advantage of this system and get away with it.

This has gone on for too long... while some of us haven't even realized it.

It's getting to a point where I feel like there's a breaking point soon.

Like a calm before the storm... I might be just writing this in the heat of the moment

but I think I can intuitively feel that people are waking up now.

Waking up to this problem that is so profound and complicated...

That those in authority did good to keep us disillusioned for so long.

The nationalism... The propaganda... What is it all for?

I think the government has been tryjng to find ways to control their citizens since the dawn of them.

As... it gives their own team more power.

It's always a struggle for them to find the balance of how much they can do evil and injustice while getting away with it.

The intentions to build a country based on values of equality and justice has been slowly turning into a monster... With so much power that it is near unstoppable.

The most practical thing to do... in a situation of authority is that you should always try to control their minds... It makes them easier to control as you see... Like sheeples.

... It is a dark world were living in... but before this game ends... The most practical thing to do is play the game... That's what those in authority says, and it's probably something that they want you to think.

... But play the game at what costs?... in this world where selfish traits are the norm and the trend of understanding is a thing of long past.... It would destroy the values that I have...

And what makes me for me.

... What I am talking about is the corporations and government... In this world of advertising and with the help of technology. It is possible now to sell a single product to millions of customers. These corporations get all these money by all the mainstream people buying them but they don't really give any of that money back...

It's like the circulation of money is stopped. I am sure this is a problem which alarmed some of you before... and I am sure it was just too big and complicated to attack it.

But we can't just ignore it because it's big and complicated.

It's so big and complicated that it's affecting almost everyone on this planet.

The banks too... what a fucking great idea that was.

The middle class is falling down... and all the wealth is going to those of the chosen few.

I am not saying socialism is the answer... but the BALANCE OF CAPITALISM AND FAIRNESS.

We all know the advantages of capitalism and socialism... but just like a lot of things in life... I think balance is the answer.

Capitalism worked well when America first started with it... THAT'S because we didn't have all these assholes that buys Government people and because of technology.

We can't have all the wealth going to these few guys... but we can't give everything equally to people either.

It's becoming a damn huge problem that's affecting most of us... So why don't we speak up and be at least a tad bit mad about it?

Violence is not the answer though...

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Wall of incorrectly used elipses.

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All i can gather from this is that: 
1. You are incapable of forming proper sentences. 
2. You have no idea what an elipses is used for. 
3. You feel the need to cut a line off after about 6 words.

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wha?

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Wrong place to do this...also, it doesn't help to scream bloody murder about the government.  

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How did america start with good intentions when it started by going to an occupied area and giving people disease ladden blankets? 
  
In fact, I don't think there's ever been intentions as bad as when America was founded. 
 
But what do I know, I'm just a dirty Canadian.

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I'm a Swede, and I could not for the life of me read your entire post. Would ya structure it up a bit?

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You try too hard to be ''deep''.

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Got 7 lines in and gave up.

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@baconbits33 said:
" Got 7 lines in and gave up. "
I only read two of them =\
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Somebody isn't sober.

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@Galiant said:
" I'm a Swede, and I could not for the life of me read your entire post. Would ya structure it up a bit? "
haha, Swede.
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You that same conspiracy theorist guy? 
Chill out,man.

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@Pinworm45 said:
" In fact, I don't think there's ever been intentions as bad as when America was founded. "
You might want to think over how BAD AT HISTORY YOU ARE.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, we get it. We're terrible people.

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@Lemoncookie01 said:
"You try too hard to be ''deep''. "

This is why I hate when most people write on serious topics. It's just ridiculous.
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Fascism, FUCK YEAH! 
 
Long live America, land of the "Free" and the home of the Whopper!

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@Quacktastic said:
" @Pinworm45 said:
" In fact, I don't think there's ever been intentions as bad as when America was founded. "
You might want to think over how BAD AT HISTORY YOU ARE. "
You deny that arrival in America resulted in war, stealing land, and handing blankets ladden with diseases?
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ITS A CONSPIRACY! 
 
@NTM: You stole a bro's avatar.

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@Pinworm45:  I do get what you mean... I explained it pretty bad anyway what I meant was, I think the founding fathers started with good intentions... They knew all the problems with government and wanted to minimize that. I personally think this country has been founded for the "people", you can just see for yourselves if you read up on what the founding fathers said (Which might all be lies, and I might just be naive... Those government guys right?)
 
It's the long wisdom that at times power corrupts, and in those times you'd better not trust authority if you really want to find the truth.  

 “Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.” Albert Einstein 
 
I am guessing that these ideas are a little too unfamiliar to many of you... I am pretty sure you guys will forget about me when the time finally comes of these theories invading the stream of consciousness more... And becomes something that's self-evident.

We are so caught up in playing this game... that we can't see...
 
We start going to preschool... all the way to high school and college... Then some of us spend hours of their "so called worth more than money lives" trying to get by.
 
Can't you see? It's kind of like a neo-slavery, making you GUYS the unsuspecting blind men pay for it by taking you away from the path of truth and keeping you disillusioned...
In this society, culture, and WEB OF THINKING we have created for ourselves... 
 
How can you guys not see that the government will do EVERYTHING that will give them advantage... Even if it's at the cost of their citizens MENTAL SLAVERY.
 
Just because you can't understand it... doesn't mean it isn't true.
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You make some points I agree with. Take it to exiledonline.com, Matt Taibbi's RS blog, http://www.tinyrevolution.com/mt/. Read Going Postal: Rage, Murder, and Rebellion: From Reagan's Workplaces to Clinton's Columbine and Beyond for elaboration on your nascent neo-slavery hypothesis. That all said, nobody here cares. Also, you come across as pretty arrogant. Nobody will listen to your argument when you put it forth in hubris.

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I vote for whoever's prettiest. 

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@thefreed:
Are you physically incapable of writing correctly?
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@Zimbo:  Sorry... I have these nasty addiction to weed... I am not sure if that has to do with it... but sometimes I get anxious or think that I am getting writer's block.
 
I know that it doesn't sound natural here and there... I am trying to work on this...
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@shadyspace:  I am sorry... but do realize there is a defense mechanism to all the people who are against me.
 
I'll try my best to take your advices and improve myself though.
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@Pinworm45 said:
"How did america start with good intentions when it started by going to an occupied area and giving people disease ladden blankets?   In fact, I don't think there's ever been intentions as bad as when America was founded.  But what do I know, I'm just a dirty Canadian. "


What? America the country was founded upon the colonist people who were being treated wrongly and wanted their own independence and Freedom to all. America the continent was founded by accident when Christopher Columbus (Actually it was founded long before that in the Medieval Ages by the vikings who discovered Newfoundland and Canada) was looking for an alternate route to India and he founded the America's (Hence why the Native Americans are Indians, they thought they were in india). There was no bad intentions on the finding of America. Everything just spanned outta propertion.
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@Pinworm45 said:
" @Quacktastic said:
" @Pinworm45 said:
" In fact, I don't think there's ever been intentions as bad as when America was founded. "
You might want to think over how BAD AT HISTORY YOU ARE. "
You deny that arrival in America resulted in war, stealing land, and handing blankets ladden with diseases? "
This is not a uniquely American concept.  Hell, when it started, America wasn't even a country.  Only colonies of various European origin under European rule.  And even before then, nations were frequently at war with each other for land and resources.
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AMERICA! 
Also please use better sentences next time 
Another note, gaming forums are usually not the best place to put in religious or political topics 
Just sayin

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Counterpoint to your argument 
 
  

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@Ryax said:
" @thefreed said:
" @Zimbo:  Sorry... I have these nasty addiction to weed... I am not sure if that has to do with it... but sometimes I get anxious or think that I am getting writer's block.  I know that it doesn't sound natural here and there... I am trying to work on this... "
you cant get addicted to weed fuck tard  "

Maybe not chemically, but you can get addicted to anything.
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Hate to break it to you, but countries weren't created out of sweet dreams and candy kisses, bro(America isn't the only fucked up country out there). Corruption is everywhere so don't worry your little head about it.

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@EvilTwin said:
" @Ryax said:
" @thefreed said:
" @Zimbo:  Sorry... I have these nasty addiction to weed... I am not sure if that has to do with it... but sometimes I get anxious or think that I am getting writer's block.  I know that it doesn't sound natural here and there... I am trying to work on this... "
you cant get addicted to weed fuck tard  "
Maybe not chemically, but you can get addicted to anything. "
touche sir, touche
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@thefreed:  Instead of ranting why not produce a concise point by point list of problems followed by your solutions rather than screaming about banks and all the other stuff.  Better yet, go join a "tea party" cough(republican astroturf campaign)cough so you yell about all that stuff in public, and keep the forums free of whatever that was. 
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@Glak: lol yeah... I like this site very much though! and wanted to talk to other gamers about this subject...
I should've realized it isn't popular the first few times I wrote something similar...
 
But... I am doing this to fight for this cause that I am naively thinking I could sacrifice my life with...
 And I've also had this fantastic talk with a total stranger yesterday for HOURS...
 
It was weird... You definitely don't open up... and talk about things like that to a stranger... We were talking for hours about different subjects but I could tell... He was very wise and profound. He liked to think... and always tries to improve himself... Or should I say he had a lot of the same values as me.
 
He inspired me to keep on fighting for this cause... Again.. this is something I might never grow out of.
 
I told him that I will change this world... (Again I might be full of myself)... I've always had this feeling... that theirs something just not right with the world... and when I was young, for some reason I was SURE I could change this... even if I wasn't really sure what it was that was wrong.
 
There's millions of different ways to think and view about a subject. I think everyone's views have a certain amount of merit in them. Because... Everyone believes in their own ideals and values... and these generally have value in the world.
 
So I don't know exactly why I have so much confidence in these ideals... Maybe it's just the type of person that I am.
 
But know this, I am not saying all these things for selfish reasons... In my case I am saying this because I truly care about the whole of humanity.
And though I am not sure I wouldn't do the same of getting bought if I was a politician... but I am not.
 
The past that I have... The experiences which became a part of me... These keeps me from being the same kind of people like them.
 
I think you need to have experienced a lot of suffering... To get a better understanding of other people's suffering.
 
... Like to be in the darkness to see the stars, it's given me a different kind of view point and I want to work to bring a fairer world onto this planet.
 
I don't believe in nationalism... I personally think our enemy is the government with the way they're starting wars, and the way that they're detrimental is countless.
 
I sincerely hope that their comes a time when the people of  the earth finds new ways of thinking about things and becomes one world with a better surveillance of government to keep it from getting corrupt.
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@thefreed said:
" @Glak: lol yeah... I like this site very much though! and wanted to talk to other gamers about this subject... I should've realized it isn't popular the first few times I wrote something similar...  But... I am doing this to fight for this cause that I am naively thinking I could sacrifice my life with...  And I've also had this fantastic talk with a total stranger yesterday for HOURS...  It was weird... You definitely don't open up... and talk about things like that to a stranger... We were talking for hours about different subjects but I could tell... He was very wise and profound. He liked to think... and always tries to improve himself... Or should I say he had a lot of the same values as me. He inspired me to keep on fighting for this cause... Again.. this is something I might never grow out of.  I told him that I will change this world... (Again I might be full of myself)... I've always had this feeling... that theirs something just not right with the world... and when I was young, for some reason I was SURE I could change this... even if I wasn't really sure what it was that was wrong.  There's millions of different ways to think and view about a subject. I think everyone's views have a certain amount of merit in them. Because... Everyone believes in their own ideals and values... and these generally have value in the world.  So I don't know exactly why I have so much confidence in these ideals... Maybe it's just the type of person that I am.  But know this, I am not saying all these things for selfish reasons... In my case I am saying this because I truly care about the whole of humanity. And though I am not sure I wouldn't do the same of getting bought if I was a politician... but I am not. The past that I have... The experiences which became a part of me... These keeps me from being the same kind of people like them.  I think you need to have experienced a lot of suffering... To get a better understanding of other people's suffering.  ... Like to be in the darkness to see the stars, it's given me a different kind of view point and I want to work to bring a fairer world onto this planet.   I don't believe in nationalism... I personally think our enemy is the government with the way they're starting wars, and the way that they're detrimental is countless.  I sincerely hope that their comes a time when the people of  the earth finds new ways of thinking about things and becomes one world with a better surveillance of government to keep it from getting corrupt. "
Fuck man, you put a lot of thought into your posts 0.o 
However corruption is everywhere you look, isn't only in America 
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@Axxol:  Corruption is everywhere... that's why I don't think I can stop thinking about it...
It's worrying me... and it makes me really depressed at times... But I want people to be more aware about this subject... Because I believe we can change this.
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@thefreed said:
" @Axxol:  Corruption is everywhere... that's why I don't think I can stop thinking about it... It's worrying me... and it makes me really depressed at times... But I want people to be more aware about this subject... Because I believe we can change this. "
Stop with this nonsense... It doesn't make you look cool... or smart... No matter what you do... there will always be corrupt... and not corrupt... stop whining about it... and live... Or you could always kill yourself... that way... you won't have to worry... about the world being corrupted... bro... THE END... No seriously... THE END.
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@ninjakiller:
 
Problem 1: Corporations having ways to mass produce and selling to millions of customers in the whole world, and using advertising to get most of them to buy their stuff. All the money goes to these corporations and most of the times the competitors with their less advertised products get barely bought.
These corporations keep on finding ways to make MORE MONEY, buy firing workers and making everything more efficient with technology.
Thus ending with few corporations hoarding most of the money.
 
Banks place interest on their loans... and if you count all the money that people owe with the money we actually have in the country today... We won't still have enough to fully pay them back and this results in our "servitude" to these corporations and the bankers.
 
Problem 2: People with the money and power use their resources to buy politicians and get away with it because of their money and power.... O_O
At first this was barely noticeable... but after this long time of government people looking out for selfish interests and partying with the money people give them with taxes... Now it's left a considerable mark on society. And the past governments are laughing their asses off having been able to get away with all this O_O.
 
Problem 3: Engineering of half-truths... or lies... that integrates themselves in to the consciousness of society. And becomes the truth. The propaganda ministers are a huge part of this. ... To put it in a way that sounds more evil... Brainwashing them.
Saying we're a part of this "team". Making us fight each other while they're warming their asses on fancy cushions. They're manipulating us.
 So the third problem is that... all these things are happening... But the government is doing it in a way that they can keep the society from noticing it, or they don't want these kinds of thoughts in their collective consciousness. They're influencing our attitudes with the help of  psychological concepts such as obedience to authority, conformity, rationalization, groupthink, deindividuation, stereotyping, and prejudice to carry out their policies."
People not being aware of this makes it a worse problem.
 
Solution 1: Keep the difference in income with the ideals of capitalism but keep the margins of them for different classes or rank of people from being too far off from each other.
 
Solution 2: Not listen to the government anymore. Unite with people from all across the nations and forget about the imaginary "lines" in world maps.
Make people more aware of the ways of politics and the state our society is in right now.
  
I seriously think our first step should be just... making people more aware of these ideals.
Lead and unite... is much better than dividing and conquering... And that's the best solution I think.
 
You know just peacefully say... we are the majority... We would like to stop being lied to... And we would like a better world for us... and the generations that are surely to precede us.
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@Fragstoff:  I am just saying it's making unexpected problems... And this is a real problem that outweighs the artificial world the institutions and they have created for us.
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@thefreed said:
" @Fragstoff:  I am just saying it's making unexpected problems... And this is a real problem that outweighs the artificial world the institutions and they have created for us. "
Artificial world?  At the risk of encouraging this mad paranoid fantasy, what?
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you take so long to say nothing

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THE GOVERNMENT IS TRYING TO RULE THE WORLD!!!!!! 
 
Didn't you hear George Bush played golf with Osama Bin Laden on September 12th, 2001?
*Puts on tin foil hat*
 
Are you one of those guy who doesn't get a credit card so "the man" doesn't have your address? I hate to break it to you, but the whole point of a government is to control an environment. So long as we don't get into public executions, I maintain the right of free speech, and the police can't walk in my house and rape my wife, I'm good.
 
People like you say a lot of things that don't make since. What brainwashing is going on? You didn't give one example.

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Well, America didnt start off to a great start, when columbus came to America, it didnt look too good for native americans.
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@JoeRiccadonna:  Columbus found the Bahamas, not America.
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“The men the American people admire most extravagantly are the most daring liars; the men they detest most violently are those who try to tell them the truth.” Henry Louis Mencken 
 
 “The masses have never thirsted after truth. Whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim.” Gustave Le Bon
 
 “When the natural weakness and imperfection of human understanding is considered, with the unavoidable influences of education, custom, books and company, upon our ways of thinking, I imagine a man must have a good deal of vanity who believes, and a good deal of boldness who affirms, that all the doctrines he holds, are true, and all he rejects are false.” Benjamin Franklin, 1740  
 
 
“The governors of the world believe, and have always believed, that virtue can only be taught by teaching falsehood, and that any man who knew the truth would be wicked. I disbelieve this, absolutely and entirely. I believe that love of truth is the basis of all real virtue, and that virtues based upon lies can only do harm.” Bertrand Russell  
 
 
“For the great majority of mankind are satisfied with appearances, as though they were realities, and are often more influenced by the things that seem than by those that are.” Niccolo Machiavelli
  
 
“The modern susceptibility to conformity and obedience to authority indicates that the truth endorsed by authority is likely to be accepted as such by a majority of the people.” David Edwards
  
 
"All great truths begin as blasphemies." - George Bernard Shaw  
 
 
If our condition were truly happy, we would not seek diversion from it in order to make ourselves happy.
Blaise Pascal  
 
 
I believe that unarmed truth and unconditional love will have the final word in reality. This is why right, temporarily defeated, is stronger than evil triumphant.-- Martin Luther King  
 
 
"The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims. The most perfect slaves are, therefore, those which blissfully and unawaredly enslave themselves."
Dresden James  
 
 
When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.- Dresden James
  
 

The aim of a joke is not to degrade the human being, but to remind him that he is already degraded.
George Orwell
  
 
the fool doth thinks he is wise but the wise man knows himself to be a fool
William Shakespeare  
 
 The foolish and the dead alone never change their opinions.
-James Russel Lowell
  
 "A man may die, nations may rise and fall, but an idea lives on."
  
 
"A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people."  
 
 
"It does not matter if the war is not real. The war is not meant to be won but to be continuous. A hierarchical society is only possible on the basis of poverty and ignorance."

-George Orwell, 1984  
 
 
Nationalism is power hunger tempered by self-deception.
George Orwell
  
 
 


The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so.
Josh Billings
 
 
God offers to every mind its choice between truth and repose. Take which you please; you can never have both. -Ralph Waldo Emerson
  
 
All this worldly wisdom was once the unamiable heresy of some wise man.
Henry David Thoreau 
 
 
“An honest politician is one who, when he is bought, stays bought.” Simon Cameron, Lincoln’s Secretary of War
  
 
“Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it.” Adolf Hitler
 
 
“We allow the most atrocious lies uttered by political and moral prostitutes to go unchallenged. These lies are endlessly recycled in the commercial media until they become ingrained in the public conscience as truth. Worse than burying our heads in the sand, we bury them up our collective ass. How do you like the view?” Charles Sullivan
  
 
“The statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception.” Mark Twain  

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This guy again? Such a bad troll. 
 
Or maybe Irrational games are advertising and that's why he isn't banned yet.

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@quantumshift5:  True
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@thefreed:   Uh-huh, yeah.  Copy-pasting various quotes of historical figures does not an argument make.
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@Landon:
Bahamas is considered to be part of the Americas. You know, the continent. Just like Ireland, Great Britian, Iceland, Sicily, etc is part of Europe, or Japan, Republic of China (That little island), is part of Asia.