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I spent a long time writing a quite large bit about roller coaster tycoon 1.
My submission got approved for 97 points or something. I was going to add more onto my article later. And now i find that my stuff has been taken away by someone who has wrote two or three lines? It isnt like i copied straight from wikipedia. I wrote all that stuff myself.
I want to know how to find out the reason for this. Why was his 3 lines better than my entire article? Has anyone else had this problem?

link: Rollercoaster Tycoon

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#2  Edited By brydello

Uh oh... I sort of thought stuff like this would end up happening after people got 1000 points.

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#3  Edited By shotaro

that sucks dude

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#4  Edited By Cube

They should take some control over it (staff) and decide which one summarizes the game the best, I think.

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#5  Edited By shotaro

But then that defeats the point of the whole 1,000 points no mod system

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#6  Edited By Rowr

hmm, all i can advise is you back up everything you write.

when you get over 1000 points change it back.

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Yeah, always save your shit.

But seriously, this is what could happen a lot after people get to 1000 points. :(

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#8  Edited By Cube
Shotaro said:
"But then that defeats the point of the whole 1,000 points no mod system
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Things being re-written constantly defeats the purpose of actually putting work into submissions.
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#9  Edited By Relys
Cube said:
"Shotaro said:
"But then that defeats the point of the whole 1,000 points no mod system
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Things being re-written constantly defeats the purpose of actually putting work into submissions.
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Yeah, I don't mind editing. That's what wiki's are all about. But scraping an entire well written article for a few sentences is just silly.
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#10  Edited By AlexB

People just need to learn a little self control. Sure getting to 1000 points is an admirable achievement, but your views aren't infalliable. Yeah that sucks dude, I can see this happening a lot more, all I can say, is back your stuff up. If you know what you wrote was better, alert a mod and send them what you wrote. They are usually pretty good about keeping things fair.

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#11  Edited By serbsta

This is the problem with the whole 1000 point system, not everyone will take that added responsibility and learn to cope with it. Unfortunately you were the victim of someone who didn't know what they were doing, hopefully you have your article backed up.

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#12  Edited By evilhomer

Have you looked at the users that have contributed to that page and have over 1000 points?  you could narrow down who it was to make it easier to report to the mods.

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#13  Edited By MattyFTM  Moderator

I'm sure they must back up previous versions of the page. Contact a mod or staff member to ask.

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#14  Edited By OGCartman

Damn, thats ignorent

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They say they can do nothing about it. I havent backed up the article either.

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Someone has put more detail into the article now. Which is fair enough but my article was still more detailed as it looks now.

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#17  Edited By blizzvalve

This Wiki system is buggy. When I was making a page about Reala, it appears that somebody already made a page, but I was accepted anyweay, and then it changed into an anime character. What's wrong with this picture?

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#18  Edited By Lemegeton

i think the mods need to lock a page for editing if someone submits a well written article that they didn't steal . thats the only fair way to do it.

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#19  Edited By Hamz

It's a problem where people will just edit an article just so their version gets on the page instead of someone elses. However the only solution we have for this at the moment is back up every submission you send us, text editors such as notepad are perfect, so you can resubmit an article should something like this or another problem occur.

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#20  Edited By Derios

This is why i refuse to submit anything. :)

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Derios said:
"This is why i refuse to submit anything. :)
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Not even images? Speaking of images, every games gallery is pretty fucked up. :X
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#22  Edited By Joseppie

As Hamz said, it's a problem we're trying to stop as much as we can. Don't worry, there are solutions on the way to help in situations such as these. Until then, please save your work, especially if it's lengthy. We want you to get credit for your work as much as you do.

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#23  Edited By Mexalen

The problem is, you just need to google a lot of pictures without a watermark and post them. Posting screenshots will earn you MASSIVE points. There are people that have severall thousand points already, but haven't written much more then a blurb or two. 

Writing an article with a lot of features will earn you 70  to 100 points - upload 100 screenshots (which is no necessary at all, you get a feeling for the game by 20 pictures max), takes less time and rewards you with the same points. Oh, and it doesn't take you any knowledge of the game at all, just some image search and you're done!
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#24  Edited By OGCartman
Joseppie said:
"As Hamz said, it's a problem we're trying to stop as much as we can. Don't worry, there are solutions on the way to help in situations such as these. Until then, please save your work, especially if it's lengthy. We want you to get credit for your work as much as you do.
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Cool, yah the wiki thing dose have that flaw =(
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What I do is copy and then paste it into a message, and message it to myself. Therefore if you have lots of links, bullet points, bold/italics/underlines, images, links, etc, it doesn't all go to waste when pasting it in notepad..

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#27  Edited By Aarny91

Sorry to hear about it man

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#28  Edited By Hungry_bunny
p4ddym1607 said:
"I spent a long time writing a quite large bit about roller coaster tycoon 1.
My submission got approved for 97 points or something. I was going to add more onto my article later. And now i find that my stuff has been taken away by someone who has wrote two or three lines? It isnt like i copied straight from wikipedia. I wrote all that stuff myself.
I want to know how to find out the reason for this. Why was his 3 lines better than my entire article? Has anyone else had this problem?

link: Rollercoaster Tycoon
"
First of all 97 points on one edit, good job.
Secondly, if you saved your work you can always re-edit the site later... or PM a mod about it.
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#29  Edited By ltcoljaxson

Yeah there are tools on the way for mods that will fix things like this. Sorry it happened, back up your stuff next time.

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#30  Edited By dev_ron
serbsta said:
"This is the problem with the whole 1000 point system, not everyone will take that added responsibility and learn to cope with it. Unfortunately you were the victim of someone who didn't know what they were doing, hopefully you have your article backed up.
"
if the site could show to users that who's edited which part after whom, people'd have been more responsible editing someone's hard work.
and i'm sorry to hear about your editing p4ddmy.
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#31  Edited By absinthetic

its a good thing you guys are working on stuff like that

I was worried about people who have live edit who would completely erase everything that was there just to put up their own article

ideally there should be something in place to prvent something like that or at least a punishment of some kind like no points awarded or a suspension of live edit capabilites

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#32  Edited By brukaoru

I saw a moderator say that a rollback system was going to be placed soon. I suppose it's too late for the article you wrote because the system's probably not in place yet.

That's really a bummer, though. Sorry to hear all your work got lost. I recommend anyone writing wikis to save what they write on their own computers.

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Absinthetic said:
"its a good thing you guys are working on stuff like that

I was worried about people who have live edit who would completely erase everything that was there just to put up their own article

ideally there should be something in place to prvent something like that or at least a punishment of some kind like no points awarded or a suspension of live edit capabilites"
I trust the community enough about things like that. It is a difficult thing to put rules in for that dont create more problems.
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#34  Edited By Vlademir
MrMiyagi said:
"Uh oh... I sort of thought stuff like this would end up happening after people got 1000 points.
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That's actually kinda scary to know.
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#35  Edited By BiffMcBlumpkin

I don't understand why someone would do that. Just to be an asshole?

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Just opened Google Docs and seen that it had autosaved the work i had put into it. I dont think it is all there but most is. I guess i will just start merging some of the data of mine to the stuff that is already there.

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#37  Edited By Strife88

Just save anything you write in Microsoft Word and re-submit it later on.

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#38  Edited By Homer
Sucks to be you.

Lol.
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Homer said:
"Sucks to be you.

Lol."
Actually I got it sorted. Now i am over 1000 points i dont have to wait for my submissions to be moderated.