A good HP game could be made if they didn't use HP Characters

The Half-Blood Prince Quick Look and the demo of Order of the Phoenix I found on Live Marketplace both seem to be all kinds of terrible. In terms of gameplay they look bland, and fail to capitalize on the fun that might be had being a powerfull wizard in Harry Potter's universe. First off, for gameplay, a rail flier and a potions mixer are two of the worst ideas ever. There must be ways to make it fun, perhaps you have to guide the ingrediants from one side of the bowl to the other, Viva Pinata Style, and after they touch the bowl churns a bit and more ingrediants are poured in quick. That might be no fun as well, but it'd be gameplay.


Second all the usage of characters in the games are terrible, the acting poor, and the appearances a bit off (Slughorn not fat enough this time around, should be walrus size). Honestly, if they want to be a good game (they don't, though they might after all the movies pass), they would choose a location that involves a lot less of Hermione, Ron, Harry, Dumbledore, the whole lot, and focuses on characterizing the world, and the details of the magic. They could do a game where you're an Auror in the Original War, kicking ass and taking names. They could spend a game in an American School in the Harry Potter world where they don't care about Quiditch at all, and infact call it Ruffletop and call a FPS like sport Quiditch. They could put you in the shoes of Harry as an Auror if they really want it to be about Harry, so long as the action is solid.

Also a thing about the dueling club from the end of the quick look, Stupefy should knock a bitch out. Like in one hit. Sure, it's kinda crap for gameplay, but then you could just change HP into stamina, and make autoblocks take it out of him.
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Posted by TheMasterDS

The Half-Blood Prince Quick Look and the demo of Order of the Phoenix I found on Live Marketplace both seem to be all kinds of terrible. In terms of gameplay they look bland, and fail to capitalize on the fun that might be had being a powerfull wizard in Harry Potter's universe. First off, for gameplay, a rail flier and a potions mixer are two of the worst ideas ever. There must be ways to make it fun, perhaps you have to guide the ingrediants from one side of the bowl to the other, Viva Pinata Style, and after they touch the bowl churns a bit and more ingrediants are poured in quick. That might be no fun as well, but it'd be gameplay.


Second all the usage of characters in the games are terrible, the acting poor, and the appearances a bit off (Slughorn not fat enough this time around, should be walrus size). Honestly, if they want to be a good game (they don't, though they might after all the movies pass), they would choose a location that involves a lot less of Hermione, Ron, Harry, Dumbledore, the whole lot, and focuses on characterizing the world, and the details of the magic. They could do a game where you're an Auror in the Original War, kicking ass and taking names. They could spend a game in an American School in the Harry Potter world where they don't care about Quiditch at all, and infact call it Ruffletop and call a FPS like sport Quiditch. They could put you in the shoes of Harry as an Auror if they really want it to be about Harry, so long as the action is solid.

Also a thing about the dueling club from the end of the quick look, Stupefy should knock a bitch out. Like in one hit. Sure, it's kinda crap for gameplay, but then you could just change HP into stamina, and make autoblocks take it out of him.
Edited by Diamond

I think they could still make a great Harry Potter game with the same characters or even actor likenesses as long as they were allowed to take various liberties to stray from canon, and they actually set out to make a great game, as opposed to a movie cash-in.

Just imagine if the game taught you some basic potion making stuff and you could learn more by doing optional quests, as opposed to a minigame, guided experience.

Posted by ArbitraryWater

A good Harry Potter game would be exactly like Persona, except set in Hogwarts instead of Japan (Improve your Nearly-Headless Nick Social Link!) There, problem solved.

Edited by FlamingHobo

They should take inspiration directly from the original source material, in this case the book. I find that any medium that does this rather than taking inspiration from another person's interpretation generally doesn't work as well as hoped. Though this may not be as commercially successful when compared to the movie, there is a chance that developers would be able to let their creative minds run free and create their own envisioning of the Harry Potter universe while keeping in context of a 500+ page book than a feature length movie, thus leading to a possibly better game.

Edit: (Additional Thoughts)

What I would like to see however is possibly an RPG set in the Harry Potter universe, rather than stepping into the shoes of Harry Potter himself. Being able to create your own persona in Harry Potter and running around Hogwarts as well as other locations would be fantastic, meeting the main characters as cameos would be cool as well.

Posted by CowMuffins

A good Harry Potter game would be one that isn't for kids. And one that actually has violence.

Posted by bwooduhs

There will never be a good potter game.

Posted by ImperiousRix

I would really like to see an actually solid Quidditch effort being placed in these games, the on-rails idea is just an absolute joke.  I like that they're making the dueling a bit more interesting, but they should certainly think about making an online component in the next one.
I've enjoyed HP games in the past, but I think they could definitely stand to be putting a bit more care and attention into them.

Posted by TheMasterDS
@ArbitraryWater said:
" A good Harry Potter game would be exactly like Persona, except set in Hogwarts instead of Japan (Improve your Nearly-Headless Nick Social Link!) There, problem solved. "
I was thinking that too. Instead of terrible minigames Snape would just yell HARRY, WHAT IS A BEZOUR? and you'd get three choices. You get it right and Snape sneers.
Posted by mubress
@TheMasterDS said:
" @ArbitraryWater said:
" A good Harry Potter game would be exactly like Persona, except set in Hogwarts instead of Japan (Improve your Nearly-Headless Nick Social Link!) There, problem solved. "
I was thinking that too. Instead of terrible minigames Snape would just yell HARRY, WHAT IS A BEZOUR? and you'd get three choices. You get it right and Snape sneers.
"
THIS!!

Posted by Verdugo

Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets for the PS1 wasn't that half bad.

I kinda like the idea the TC pointed out about being an auror in a time before the actual story takes place. Could be interesting.

Posted by TheMasterDS

Voldemort will come after several days of rain

Posted by bwooduhs
@ImperiousRix said:
" I would really like to see an actually solid Quidditch effort being placed in these games, the on-rails idea is just an absolute joke.  I like that they're making the dueling a bit more interesting, but they should certainly think about making an online component in the next one.I've enjoyed HP games in the past, but I think they could definitely stand to be putting a bit more care and attention into them. "
Did anyone else actually play the Quidditch World Cup game?
Posted by ArbitraryWater
@TheMasterDS said:
" Voldemort will come after several days of rain "
Yes.
Posted by Lies
@ImperiousRix said:
" I would really like to see an actually solid Quidditch effort being placed in these games, the on-rails idea is just an absolute joke.  I like that they're making the dueling a bit more interesting, but they should certainly think about making an online component in the next one.I've enjoyed HP games in the past, but I think they could definitely stand to be putting a bit more care and attention into them. "
Did someone say Quidditch?
Posted by mracoon

I always thought a Harry Potter MMO would work really well. You could play as a Hogwarts student or just a random wizard.

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Posted by Babble

Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets was pretty good from what I remember of it on the Xbox. (It may just be nostalgia though).

Posted by FlamingHobo
@Lies said:
" @ImperiousRix said:
" I would really like to see an actually solid Quidditch effort being placed in these games, the on-rails idea is just an absolute joke.  I like that they're making the dueling a bit more interesting, but they should certainly think about making an online component in the next one.I've enjoyed HP games in the past, but I think they could definitely stand to be putting a bit more care and attention into them. "
Did someone say Quidditch? "
I remember that game from donkeys years ago, it was pretty cool.
Posted by marlow83
@FlamingHobo said:
" @Lies said:
" @ImperiousRix said:
" I would really like to see an actually solid Quidditch effort being placed in these games, the on-rails idea is just an absolute joke.  I like that they're making the dueling a bit more interesting, but they should certainly think about making an online component in the next one.I've enjoyed HP games in the past, but I think they could definitely stand to be putting a bit more care and attention into them. "
Did someone say Quidditch? "
I remember that game from donkeys years ago, it was pretty cool. "
Yeah, I had it too, it wasn't bad
Posted by ImperiousRix
@marlow83 said:
"@FlamingHobo said:
" @Lies said:
" @ImperiousRix said:
" I would really like to see an actually solid Quidditch effort being placed in these games, the on-rails idea is just an absolute joke.  I like that they're making the dueling a bit more interesting, but they should certainly think about making an online component in the next one.I've enjoyed HP games in the past, but I think they could definitely stand to be putting a bit more care and attention into them. "
Did someone say Quidditch? "
I remember that game from donkeys years ago, it was pretty cool. "
Yeah, I had it too, it wasn't bad"

Yeah, I had it as well, which is what I'm talking about.
I was hoping they'd expand on that with later games, but they just abandoned the full Quidditch game idea altogether.  For what it was, Quidditch World Cup was a lot of fun.
Posted by Agnogenic_delete
@mracoon: I was thinking more of an RPG like Persona 4. That could work really well too. :)