theodacourt's forum posts

#1 Edited by theodacourt (545 posts) -

I think selling it is probably a bad idea unless that will give you the money to buy something else. Selling it and buying one later is going to be a net loss for you, if you're going to buy one later. If you're never going to want one in the future then selling it now would be the best way. I'd probably keep it for the future games but it's really up to you.

#2 Edited by theodacourt (545 posts) -

I've asked to join the EU group! My namerthing is AstroCactus

#3 Edited by theodacourt (545 posts) -

Enigmatic Football Manager for Borussia Dortmund, Jurgen Klopp.

#4 Posted by theodacourt (545 posts) -

This guy is pretty entertaining, but really reminds me of the riddler from batman forever.

#5 Posted by theodacourt (545 posts) -
@amafi said:

@theodacourt said:

@giantlizardking said:

@theodacourt said:

I don't think Leigh was painting an entire culture like that in her article. She's saying some people are really invested in games as they were 10 years ago and don't want change and will fight anyone campaigning for change.

People in her position have 3 options

  • give up their jobs and passion
  • try to ignore it and accept personal and scathing abuse
  • try and defend yourself or fight back against it by pointing out that it exists.

If you think that she shouldn't stand against it you're basically saying that the arseholes get to win; which sounds like accepting and ignoring their actions and the problem as a whole.

When did we start feeding the trolls? Isn't there a rule about feeding the trolls? If people are being unreasonable or interacting with you in a way you consider to be harassment either ignore them, block them or contact the authorities. If they happen to disagree with you reasonably have a discussion with them. Or don't. It's your choice. Either way, she is still attempting to make a very local problem look a lot more like an endemic problem and building up to an erroneous conclusion about "the end of the gamer" or some such shit. Some people like COD, and some people like Gone home, and some people like both. I don't like either I like Civ 5 and Dark Souls. Big deal. Gaming is a pretty big tent at this point. If some very slow people are having a hard time understanding that then I don't know what to tell you.

If this behaviour is trolling, well, what the internet community call trolls in the real world would be a violation of civil and human rights. You realise harassment is an illegal offence right? This behaviour isn't accepted anywhere else.

If you choose to accept the term gamer as she uses it to refer to yourself then that is your prerogative. I thought earlier in this discussion we've said that you don't have to take what she says seriously and that it doesn't actually apply to most individuals because it's a generalisation, so why is it offensive to you?

I accept that her use of the term gamer is probably at odds with how a lot of people are interpreting it. I love games and I probably spend more time with them than any other hobby but I wouldn't choose the word gamer to describe myself, it's not going to appear on tombstone or anything and I think that's how she see's a large proportion of this community. Gaming is just a part of my interests as it is for a lot of people and the people who are having a hard time with gaming changing are the people who only have that to describe themselves culturally. They are 'gamers' because that's all the know. She's not referring to gamers as in every single person who likes games, or even loves them, because that's basically most people in developed countries these days.

What word you use to describe yourself is completely irrelevant though. You're a subscriber to giant bomb. You probably engage with, talk about and think about games more than enough to cross whatever threshold separates non-gamers from gamers. Her use of the word is at odds with how people use the word because she's lazy and a bad writer. She has bad ideas and expresses them poorly. It's kind of her thing.

Exactly! The word really doesn't matter so why do you assume that she's referring to you/your culture? There isn't a threshold between gamers and non-gamers, it's a sliding scale. It's just some people play games and others don't and all everything in between.

It's easy to understand who and what type of people she is referring to regardless of the use of the term gamer in this article. I don't think she's referring to you but you feel she is because of the word, which you agree is irrelevant. If you look at all the abuse and hatred that this is all about it is clearly about videogames and this article makes complete sense, and gamers is just a term that enables her to easily reference that specific micro-culture.

#6 Posted by theodacourt (545 posts) -

@theodacourt said:

I don't think Leigh was painting an entire culture like that in her article. She's saying some people are really invested in games as they were 10 years ago and don't want change and will fight anyone campaigning for change.

People in her position have 3 options

  • give up their jobs and passion
  • try to ignore it and accept personal and scathing abuse
  • try and defend yourself or fight back against it by pointing out that it exists.

If you think that she shouldn't stand against it you're basically saying that the arseholes get to win; which sounds like accepting and ignoring their actions and the problem as a whole.

When did we start feeding the trolls? Isn't there a rule about feeding the trolls? If people are being unreasonable or interacting with you in a way you consider to be harassment either ignore them, block them or contact the authorities. If they happen to disagree with you reasonably have a discussion with them. Or don't. It's your choice. Either way, she is still attempting to make a very local problem look a lot more like an endemic problem and building up to an erroneous conclusion about "the end of the gamer" or some such shit. Some people like COD, and some people like Gone home, and some people like both. I don't like either I like Civ 5 and Dark Souls. Big deal. Gaming is a pretty big tent at this point. If some very slow people are having a hard time understanding that then I don't know what to tell you.

If this behaviour is trolling, well, what the internet community call trolls in the real world would be a violation of civil and human rights. You realise harassment is an illegal offence right? This behaviour isn't accepted anywhere else.

If you choose to accept the term gamer as she uses it to refer to yourself then that is your prerogative. I thought earlier in this discussion we've said that you don't have to take what she says seriously and that it doesn't actually apply to most individuals because it's a generalisation, so why is it offensive to you?

I accept that her use of the term gamer is probably at odds with how a lot of people are interpreting it. I love games and I probably spend more time with them than any other hobby but I wouldn't choose the word gamer to describe myself, it's not going to appear on tombstone or anything and I think that's how she see's a large proportion of this community. Gaming is just a part of my interests as it is for a lot of people and the people who are having a hard time with gaming changing are the people who only have that to describe themselves culturally. They are 'gamers' because that's all the know. She's not referring to gamers as in every single person who likes games, or even loves them, because that's basically most people in developed countries these days.

#7 Posted by theodacourt (545 posts) -

@theodacourt said:

@giantlizardking: @oldirtybearon: Whilst I do agree generally with you both that it contains a lot of generalisation so you can kind ignore it as it might not apply to you, people are behaving is despicable ways for a reason and they're doing it in the name of their perceived 'gamer' culture. So I think she's absolutely right on a general level. The kind of behaviour that we're seeing is worthy of getting mad about so I personally won't accept it and won't ignore it.

And whilst this may not being the sort of discussion that's happening nationally it does reflect back on this community which we engage in.

I'm not advocating accepting or ignoring shitty behavior. Assholes should be dealt with promptly. I'm just saying that I refuse to paint the entire culture with so broad a brush because it has some bad people in it. Stupid people do and say bad things regardless of what hobby they have. It's not an indictment on video games or video game culture, it's an indictment on being a stupid little shit with no empathy.

I don't think Leigh was painting an entire culture like that in her article. She's saying some people are really invested in games as they were 10 years ago and don't want change and will fight anyone campaigning for change.

People in her position have 3 options

  • give up their jobs and passion
  • try to ignore it and accept personal and scathing abuse
  • try and defend yourself or fight back against it by pointing out that it exists.

If you think that she shouldn't stand against it you're basically saying that the arseholes get to win; which sounds like accepting and ignoring their actions and the problem as a whole.

#8 Posted by theodacourt (545 posts) -

@giantlizardking: @oldirtybearon: Whilst I do agree generally with you both that it contains a lot of generalisation so you can kind ignore it as it might not apply to you, people are behaving is despicable ways for a reason and they're doing it in the name of their perceived 'gamer' culture. So I think she's absolutely right on a general level. The kind of behaviour that we're seeing is worthy of getting mad about so I personally won't accept it and won't ignore it.

And whilst this may not being the sort of discussion that's happening nationally it does reflect back on this community which we engage in.

#9 Posted by theodacourt (545 posts) -

I'm not sure what specifically is causing a problem for you. I think she's basically saying that the old 'gamer' demographic has fractured with some people generally getting less interested in games, some opening their mind to the recent variety that has developed and the last group being fiercely defensive of an ageing culture.

I guess you're free to choose which of these 3 groups you have moved into. Maybe a problem might arise if you think you still belong to the last two groups simultaneously, but if you truly have an open mind I don't see how you can believe that the traditional 'gamer' games are going away. If you think the change in tone which is being asked of those games is a bad thing then that's not a problem with your gamer identity, it's a problem with your perception of gender equality.

#10 Edited by theodacourt (545 posts) -

So here's another.