TheSixthHorseman

"A Zangief player won a tournament. Damn , doesnt say much for the other players.
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"Actually, the fact that we evolved from a common ancestor has been demonstrated by gene mapping and cell biology. A long time ago. You saying that's it's statistically impossible doesn't make it so, especially when there's mountains of evidence for it from countless independent sources from the most intelligent minds using the most sophisticated technology.

And referring to an earlier comment of yours about "twisting Einstein's words", Einstein actually said that he was an ex-Jew and a deist, and he always hated how people interpreted his use of "God" (such as "God must play dice") to refer to some sort of religious one, he always used it to refer to nature and the universe.
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He's menadam_grif said:

"TheSixthHorseman said:

"Here's a couple quotes that I could find. I'm missing some though:

"   Even if there is only one possible unified theory, it is just a set of rules and equations. What is it
    that breathes fire into the equations and makes a universe for  them to describe?... Why does the
    universe go to all the bother of existing? Is the unified theory so compelling that it brings about its
    own existence? Or does it need a creator, and, if so does he have any other effect on the universe?
    And who created him?"

"    [I]f we discover a complete theory, it should in time be understandable by everyone, not just  by a
    few scientists. Then we shall all, philosophers, scientists and just ordinary people, be able to take
    part in the discussion of the question of why it is that we and the universe exist. If we find the
    answer to that, it would be the ultimate triumph of human reason -- for then we should know the
    mind of God. "


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Stephen Hawkings is a noted atheist, and you are quote mining. The first "quote" is a question, and it is not rhetorical.

Lurk moar.
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"TheSixthHorseman said:

"Geno said:

"TheSixthHorseman said:

"Geno said:

"Lmao at the people who answered No or Not sure. What's there not to "believe"? It's verifiable, observable, repeatable and predictable fact. The theory of evolution technically has more evidence than the theory of gravity, since the theory of gravity can't account for quantum mechanics even though all particles exist in the same universe. Evolution is consistent throughout. If you don't believe evolution you may as well not believe in gravity, thermodynamics and quantum physics.
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Except the theory of gravity is verifiable, observable, repeatable, and predictable. Did you observe evolution?You must be pretty old.
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Have you ever heard of microbiology? Cell Biology? Phylogeny? Molecular Biology? Embryology? Genetics? All independent fields that mutually agree and support the theory of evolution. You must be pretty young (or dumb).
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So you're saying evolution is fact? Then why is it that evolution is so hotly contested even in the scientific community.
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How is it contested? The number of scientists in the scientific community that contest evolution are 6 times fewer than the number of historians that deny the Holocaust by proportion. In the upper tiers of the scientific community, there is no argument whatsoever. There are indeed debates regarding minutiae especially in the field of medical research, but whether or not for example, R-roscovitine sensitizes anaplastic thyroid carcinoma cells to TRAIL-induced apoptosis via regulation of IKK/NF-kappaB pathway, isn't important to the main principles of evolutionary biology. Whoever told you that there is some great debate going on in the scientific community about the principles of evolution is a bald faced liar. It's about as well established in biology as the fact that the earth isn't flat in geology. It's extremely basic level stuff that usually gets taught even in the middle of high school, and then you learn about molecular biology and biochemistry in university.

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"There is plenty of proof.  Whether by fossils or by the ability of viruses to change there is alot of proof.  Its a myth that it's unproven.  There is actually a colledge biology assignment in which you observe evolution through bacteria

"Geno said: So you're saying evolution is fact? Then why is it that evolution is so hotly contested even in the scientific community.
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The actual debate over if it is overall true is pretty much over.  Debates on specifics such as the evulutionary path of a species arnt over
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"TheSixthHorseman said:

"Here's a couple quotes that I could find. I'm missing some though:

"   Even if there is only one possible unified theory, it is just a set of rules and equations. What is it
    that breathes fire into the equations and makes a universe for  them to describe?... Why does the
    universe go to all the bother of existing? Is the unified theory so compelling that it brings about its
    own existence? Or does it need a creator, and, if so does he have any other effect on the universe?
    And who created him?"

"    [I]f we discover a complete theory, it should in time be understandable by everyone, not just  by a
    few scientists. Then we shall all, philosophers, scientists and just ordinary people, be able to take
    part in the discussion of the question of why it is that we and the universe exist. If we find the
    answer to that, it would be the ultimate triumph of human reason -- for then we should know the
    mind of God. "


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It is important to note that some scientists use "God" as a reference only to nature, luck, or even science. Albert Einstein used it in such a manner and many modern day scientists do as well. The quote "mind of God" probably doesn't mean anything more than "nature of the universe". Also the fact that some intelligent individuals may have leanings towards religion doesn't somehow justify it. 97% of The Royal Academy of Science in London are still atheist, and about 80%+ of scientists elsewhere are too. The general statistic is that education levels exponentially increase the proportion of atheists, with about <10% at high school level, and >90% at PhD level.
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"TheSixthHorseman said:

"Geno said:

"Lmao at the people who answered No or Not sure. What's there not to "believe"? It's verifiable, observable, repeatable and predictable fact. The theory of evolution technically has more evidence than the theory of gravity, since the theory of gravity can't account for quantum mechanics even though all particles exist in the same universe. Evolution is consistent throughout. If you don't believe evolution you may as well not believe in gravity, thermodynamics and quantum physics.
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Except the theory of gravity is verifiable, observable, repeatable, and predictable. Did you observe evolution?You must be pretty old.
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Have you ever heard of microbiology? Cell Biology? Phylogeny? Molecular Biology? Embryology? Genetics? All independent fields that mutually agree and support the theory of evolution. You must be pretty young (or dumb).
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Here's a couple quotes that I could find. I'm missing some though:

"   Even if there is only one possible unified theory, it is just a set of rules and equations. What is it
    that breathes fire into the equations and makes a universe for  them to describe?... Why does the
    universe go to all the bother of existing? Is the unified theory so compelling that it brings about its
    own existence? Or does it need a creator, and, if so does he have any other effect on the universe?
    And who created him?"

"    [I]f we discover a complete theory, it should in time be understandable by everyone, not just  by a
    few scientists. Then we shall all, philosophers, scientists and just ordinary people, be able to take
    part in the discussion of the question of why it is that we and the universe exist. If we find the
    answer to that, it would be the ultimate triumph of human reason -- for then we should know the
    mind of God. "

"TheSixthHorseman said:

"Teh_Eel said:

"TheSixthHorseman said:

"Teh_Eel said:

"I picked yes simply because I have pretty I have always been taught Darwins Theory of Evolution as fact through out my education so it makes the most sense in my head, and ideas such as creationism and intelligent design just seems like religion trying to step in to Science which is very very wrong. Religion has no place in Science as Science is fact.
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Tell that to Stephen Hawking.
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Would you like to make proper point?
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Stephen Hawking revised his theory on the Big Bang, stating that the Big Bang could only happen via intervention by another force.Basically he means that science can't fully explain the Big Bang.
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Care to elaborate? Perhaps a direct quote? Especially considering we have only your word on that.
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"Lmao at the people who answered No or Not sure. What's there not to "believe"? It's verifiable, observable, repeatable and predictable fact. The theory of evolution technically has more evidence than the theory of gravity, since the theory of gravity can't account for quantum mechanics even though all particles exist in the same universe. Evolution is consistent throughout. If you don't believe evolution you may as well not believe in gravity, thermodynamics and quantum physics.
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