@wrighteous86: Oh I'm not complaining that people think that. I said in my very first post here that I understand why that is the case and why those words are attached to this franchise. I just think that when people say that the story is convoluted, they tend to mean that they don't understand the story because they didn't bother with any of the side games, not that the story isn't told in a straightforward A to B manner. So, you're right, I guess semantics was the argument.
I didn't really argue about it being pretentious though. That was someone else. I completely understand why people see these games as pretentious. I just personally didn't find the story to be as off-putting. I came to the series later after 2 came out so I sort of knew that it wasn't all "Happy Disney fun time with Final Fantasy characters" so it didn't bother me as much.
And I was merely commenting that literally everyone who complains about this game uses the phrase "up its own ass". I mean, just look at this thread.
Haha fair point. Still, I see what you like about the series. I was once a fan too. I just can't be bothered to keep up anymore. I'm happy these games are being made, and I'm curious and looking forward to seeing how KH3 turns out too.