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#2 Posted by XChairmanDrekX (284 posts) -

Got this a few months ago, as I'm in Europe. Its a good game, I wouldn't say its as good as Dual Destinies, but well worth playing. One criticism I would make is that the two gameplay types never really converge in interesting ways, save for a few times. Its much more of a Layton game than a PW IMO.

I actually hear the opposite, that it's more of an Ace Attorney game than a Layton game.

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#4 Posted by XChairmanDrekX (284 posts) -
@hailinel said:

@xchairmandrekx said:

@steadyingmeat said:

Well, thanks to this thread, I now know of a few people I'd like to avoid interacting with on this site in the future. Cool.

If you're shallow enough to avoid certain people just because they have a particular hobby, I'm sure they will in fact, not miss you.

I don't think it's the people with the hobby he's talking about.

You're right, that's actually probably not what he meant, I jumped to conclusions without thinking. I went ahead and deleted that post.

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#7 Posted by XChairmanDrekX (284 posts) -

Well Time Warner can't get any worse, so I say bring this on.

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#8 Posted by XChairmanDrekX (284 posts) -

Even if grinding is a player behavior, what's wrong with having that type of thing in the wiki?

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#9 Posted by XChairmanDrekX (284 posts) -
@johnham said:

@xchairmandrekx: Fair enough. I don't have a problem clarifying, though I could do without people defaulting to calling me racist :P

Sorry about that, I didn't quite mean to call you yourself a racist, just that what you were saying did sound as such. However, I understand now what you were trying to get across.

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#10 Posted by XChairmanDrekX (284 posts) -
@johnham said:

@xchairmandrekx said:
@johnham said:

@zevvion said:

@johnham said:
@whatisdelicious said:

@johnham said:

@w1n5t0n: What about a black person providing perspective on that race's portrayal in GTA V via Franklin / Lamar. Is it accurate? Is it illuminating? What would you change about the portrayal, if it were up to you?

But honestly, your characterization of my opinion as a "warped crusade" really makes it clear that you're not looking for me to actually answer your questions.

What are you talking about?

Seriously, please stop assuming all white people are alike and all black people are alike. How is a black guy going to know if the portrayal of Franklin and Lamar is accurate unless he grew up on the fucking streets?

This is a legitimately racist viewpoint you're expressing here.

A black person would have an inherently more valuable perspective on how a black person is characterized in a video game.

A doctor would have an inherently more valuable perspective on how a complicated surgery is represented in a video game.

It's not a racist statement, but thanks anyway.

That is not even close to the same thing. A doctor went to school to get a medical degree. Giving him actual knowledge about surgery. A black person isn't by definition grown up on the streets as Franklin and Lamar were. Any person growing up around people akin to Franklin and Lamar would have inherently more valuable perspective on that stuff than the mere fact of being black. Yes, you are being totally racist, even if unintentionally.

"Any person growing up around people akin to Franklin and Lamar would have inherently more valuable perspective on that stuff than the mere fact of being black."

I agree with this; a person who experienced the exact same things as those characters would have an even better perspective than someone who is "merely" black.

That doesn't change the fact that a black person living in the US automatically has some small degree of shared (virtual) experience with those characters and is thus better suited to commentary than a white person would be, assuming everything else is equal.

But before everyone gets hung up on calling me a racist, I want to bring this back around to the original source of the comment; does anyone here really think that there's literally zero unique perspective on games that a minority could bring to the table? Seriously?

Still sounding pretty racist there. You are saying that for example, given two identical upper class people, one black and white, the black person would just happen to have a better perspective about living in the conditions that Franklin and Lamar lived in, simply due to their race? You are literally making assumptions about people based on the color of their skin. That's text-book racism. Even if you don't realize it.

The hypothetical black person in your example would not have better perspective on the "conditions that Franklin and Lamar lived in" because that topic is specifically related to location and socio-economic status (things that are also tied up in race, but we can put that aside). But that same black person WOULD have better perspective on the ways that they are treated, and portrayed in the media, as a function of their skin color, which is something that is reflected in those characters. Therefore they would probably be more-qualified to provide that perspective.

I am not saying all black people know more about being poor.

I am not saying all black people know more about being in a gang, or street culture generally.

I AM saying that black people inherently have a different perspective on how black people are treated and perceived in our society. On what it IS to be black in a modern US context. It's so obvious that it shouldn't even need to be stated.

Apparently I misunderstood. That makes more sense. Although you didn't quite make as obvious as your claiming. There were other people confused by what you were saying as well.

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