@limiter31: If Dan's problem with JRPGs is the menu based combat, than Persona is probably not for him. The combat is about as basic as it gets. He might be able to get something out of the SMT games with the more involved version of press-turn like SMT3, SMT4 or the Digital Devil Saga games as those really make you play tactically and make full use of the turn down time to think strategically. They basically epitomize why I like turn based combat. If he's looking for an action style JRPG, he could give the Tales of... games a shot, but I suspect other things like the quest structure would probably end up boring him out of those as well.