@thefantasticfillip said:
@pompouspizza: Basically, when Zero said "Join Cipher or die" at the end of PW, it was a bluff. He could never bring himself to kill Big Boss. But the AI would totally fucking kill him or enslave him for their own desires, which is exactly what they ultimately do.
Yeah no sorry, your point falls flat when two seconds after saying this - his agent Pacifica Ocean tries to kill Big Boss with a Metal Gear.
We know 100% that these are not her own actions, as by then she'd fallen in love with BB and had come to see mother base as her home and MSF as her family. Yet despite this, she is still so afraid of Zero that she follows through on her orders of killing BB, nuking the west coast of the US and blaming it on MSF. (or at least she would have if BB didn't stop her)
PW was the final attempt by Zero at getting Big Boss and his men to come back into the fold, if BB still refused he felt that there was no choice but to destroy them both.
MGSV is just a mess in this regard...we get to hear all the contact Zero had with Paz for her mission briefing during the truth tapes. Let's be honest, does that little chat between her and Zero really sound like something that would inspire her to do what she did out of abject fear of disobeying Zero's orders, despite her obvious change of heart?
It sounded like a whistful old man who was lamenting the loss of a friend, not once is there any outright threat or even implication of what happened to her in Ground Zeroes if she should fail her mission. In fact, she catches on that she's Zero's only hope as he tries to bluff that there's a whole bunch of other candidates he had turned down prior to her, which would be a BAD move as it's more people who would know his location.
Kojima went back on his plan of making Zero the outright irredeemable shithead somewhere between PW and PP and this is very obvious, he wanted to make him a sympathetic character instead so he made Skullface the cartoonish antagonist in-lieu who wipes out MSF and does fucked up evil things like putting a alzheimer's parasite on a pin.
The whole thing smacks of standard revisionist lore by Kojima, and I don't like it one bit.
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