Geoff Keighley thinks Halo: Reach is phenomenal.

Yea... I'm serious. The Spike TV VGA Awards is on 12/12 and as always, its more about the exclusive previews for next year's games than the actual awards. Geoff recently went on to Major's Minute, the podcast of Major Nelson (Xbox Live Bro for those who don't know) and said the following about Halo: Reach: 
 

 "At the VGAs, you'll actually go down onto the Planet Reach and see this game for the first time. It's all going to be in-game stuff, this is not CG, this is not live action. [...] You'll get the first glimpse at the world Reach, which I think is going to be phenomenal and I think is going to be the biggest game next year by far. Folks loved ODST and it was great, but you know, when people see the huge leap forward Bungie is taking with Reach, I don't know if you've seen it yet, but everyone I've talked to that seen it, has been on the team, is incredibly excited about this game. [...] It's going to be an epic piece, the guys at Bungie have done a phenomenal job, we are really proud to be partnered with them for this."    

He's pretty psyched :D And now, I am too. That ass! I was trying to keep my expectations in check!  
 
What do you people think? 
 
Link to the Podcast where this unfolds
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Posted by Zereta

Yea... I'm serious. The Spike TV VGA Awards is on 12/12 and as always, its more about the exclusive previews for next year's games than the actual awards. Geoff recently went on to Major's Minute, the podcast of Major Nelson (Xbox Live Bro for those who don't know) and said the following about Halo: Reach: 
 

 "At the VGAs, you'll actually go down onto the Planet Reach and see this game for the first time. It's all going to be in-game stuff, this is not CG, this is not live action. [...] You'll get the first glimpse at the world Reach, which I think is going to be phenomenal and I think is going to be the biggest game next year by far. Folks loved ODST and it was great, but you know, when people see the huge leap forward Bungie is taking with Reach, I don't know if you've seen it yet, but everyone I've talked to that seen it, has been on the team, is incredibly excited about this game. [...] It's going to be an epic piece, the guys at Bungie have done a phenomenal job, we are really proud to be partnered with them for this."    

He's pretty psyched :D And now, I am too. That ass! I was trying to keep my expectations in check!  
 
What do you people think? 
 
Link to the Podcast where this unfolds
Posted by demontium
@Zereta: Geoff is great at asking Reggie questions, but i do not really care for his opinions of games.
Posted by xyzygy

Well the book was awesome and if it's anything like the book it WILL be epic.

Posted by Dark_Jon

They can change environments all they want but there better be making some gameplay changes too.

Posted by ez123

VGAs actually sound cool this year. I'm looking forward to the in-game footage.

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Posted by Apathylad

I wonder when I'll be able to use that Reach beta code that came with ODST.

Posted by Zereta
@Apathylad said:
" I wonder when I'll be able to use that Reach beta code that came with ODST. "
Spring 2010. I'm waiting as well :)
Posted by SonicFire

I really do not care about the Halo franchise any more, so Bungie is going to have to do something spectacular to pique my interest on this one. It's just my opinion, but I thought that Halo ODST looked and played like an outmoded game.  To be fair, of course everyone on the team is stoked about it. But you know, the team developing rogue warrior was ecstatic about their knife kill system too.
 
In terms of advancement, Bungie will have to do to Halo what Infinity Ward did with the first Modern Warfare. If they can, then I'll be the first to buy it.

Posted by Zereta
@SonicFire said:
" I really do not care about the Halo franchise any more, so Bungie is going to have to do something spectacular to pique my interest on this one. It's just my opinion, but I thought that Halo ODST looked and played like an outmoded game.  To be fair, of course everyone on the team is stoked about it. But you know, the team developing rogue warrior was ecstatic about their knife kill system too. In terms of advancement, Bungie will have to do to Halo what Infinity Ward did with the first Modern Warfare. If they can, then I'll be the first to buy it. "
Well, to be fair again, Geoff did say people who have seen it outside the team feel the same way. Oh and if you don't mind me asking, what do you mean "Bungie will have to do to Halo what Infinity Ward did with the first Modern Warfare"? What did IW do? I'm asking this in the most sincere way possible, and throwing my intense hatred for IW out of the way first. I am sincerely curious :D
Posted by big_jon

Awsome.
Posted by nanikore

Halo, Halo, Halo. It's just going to be Halo all over again with more flowers and guns and 12 year olds.

Posted by wefwefasdf

Sweet. I can't wait for Saturday!

Posted by Fbomb
@Dark_Jon said:
" They can change environments all they want but there better be making some gameplay changes too. "
I really don't know how much you can mess with the formula when a franchise is SO big. Major changes can kill a franchise by pissing off core users... 
Then again, this may be why Bungie "broke away" from Microsoft. I'm excited to see the changes, myself, as both someone that doesn't have a 360 and very much non-fan of previous Halos. It's still something I'll play at friends' houses, but until they make some fundamental changes, the gameplay feels super one-dimensional and dated. Right now it's more on the Quake end of the shooter spectrum (run and gun with ridiculous weaponry and armour), so I'm eager to see where Bungie is willing to take this with Reach.
Posted by JJOR64

That's nice.

Posted by HistoryInRust

I'm excited, regardless. An impending Halo means an impending game of high-quality. 
 
Where ODST succeeded most, in my mind, is in redefining the tone a Halo game can have. It was more personal, less flamboyantly "epic". But that personality gave the game a more textured layer of seriousness that I really appreciated. If Reach can further explore tone in presentation--and I don't mean pursuing the same tone ODST had, but possibly going a darker, more desperate route--then it can be a true change of course for the Halo series. 
 
Fingers crossed.

Posted by Zereta
@Sir_Ragnarok said:
" I'm excited, regardless. An impending Halo means an impending game of high-quality.    Where ODST succeeded most, in my mind, is in redefining the tone a Halo game can have. It was more personal, less flamboyantly "epic". But that personality gave the game a more textured layer of seriousness that I really appreciated. If Reach can further explore tone in presentation--and I don't mean pursuing the same tone ODST had, but possibly going a darker, more desperate route--then it can be a true change of course for the Halo series.   Fingers crossed. "
Indeed brother. 12/12 is going to be an intense day.
Posted by Matthew
@demontium said:
" @Zereta: Geoff is great at asking Reggie questions, but i do not really care for his opinions of games. "
He seems to relish in the fact that he is able to get at games far before any of us, and just keeps going on and on about how great it is, or just keep on teasing and dropping hints to things he knows, but isn't able to talk about yet...he's kind of a douche.
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@Zereta said:

" @Sir_Ragnarok said:

" I'm excited, regardless. An impending Halo means an impending game of high-quality.    Where ODST succeeded most, in my mind, is in redefining the tone a Halo game can have. It was more personal, less flamboyantly "epic". But that personality gave the game a more textured layer of seriousness that I really appreciated. If Reach can further explore tone in presentation--and I don't mean pursuing the same tone ODST had, but possibly going a darker, more desperate route--then it can be a true change of course for the Halo series.   Fingers crossed. "

Indeed brother. 12/12 is going to be an intense day. "
Thats my Birthday.... 
 
maybe I'll just rent this game. I got caught by the Halo 3 hype train and I was extremely disappointed by it. Plus, Halo 3 red ring me, ODST Red Ring me (5 minutes into the game). I won't be going around playing Halo games anymore on my 360
Posted by Zereta
@Mordukai said:
" @Zereta said:
" @Sir_Ragnarok said:
" I'm excited, regardless. An impending Halo means an impending game of high-quality.    Where ODST succeeded most, in my mind, is in redefining the tone a Halo game can have. It was more personal, less flamboyantly "epic". But that personality gave the game a more textured layer of seriousness that I really appreciated. If Reach can further explore tone in presentation--and I don't mean pursuing the same tone ODST had, but possibly going a darker, more desperate route--then it can be a true change of course for the Halo series.   Fingers crossed. "
Indeed brother. 12/12 is going to be an intense day. "
Thats my Birthday.... "
Bungie's birthday present to you? :D
Posted by mordukai
@Zereta: Not so much. I posted my comment before I finished it...LOL. Not a huge Halo fan. But it's still my birthday. I would like to see Bungie do something outside of Halo but I fear that they kinda shot themselves in the foot because they are doing Halo for so long that they can't really know how to do anything else. I am just over saturated with Halo to care anymore. MS will milk it until bone dry. I have a feeling they [ms] will have a new halo game every year, you'll see. I won't be overly surprised if they announce that Halo 4 will come out 2011. 
Posted by Zereta
@Mordukai said:
" @Zereta: Not so much. I posted my comment before I finished it...LOL. Not a huge Halo fan. But it's still my birthday. I would like to see Bungie do something outside of Halo but I fear that they kinda shot themselves in the foot because they are doing Halo for so long that they can't really know how to do anything else. I am just over saturated with Halo to care anymore. MS will milk it until bone dry. I have a feeling they [ms] will have a new halo game every year, you'll see. I won't be overly surprised if they announce that Halo 4 will come out 2011.  "
*Refrains from lecturing you about Milking* 
 
... PHEW, Now that was tough. I think its reassuring to know that of the 2 teams working on games now at Bungie, one of them is this and the other is a New IP. And once Halo: Reach is done, I'm probably done with Halo as well. My loyalty is to Bungie and the quality of games they give and once the change of guards truly happen, you're right: Halo every year doesn't seem that far-fetched of an idea. 
 
For me, I'm excited to see this getting this sort of 'praise' and hype not because its Halo, but because its Bungie.
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@Zereta said:

" Yea... I'm serious. The Spike TV VGA Awards is on 12/12 and as always, its more about the exclusive previews for next year's games than the actual awards. Geoff recently went on to Major's Minute, the podcast of Major Nelson (Xbox Live Bro for those who don't know) and said the following about Halo: Reach: 
 

 "At the VGAs, you'll actually go down onto the Planet Reach and see this game for the first time. It's all going to be in-game stuff, this is not CG, this is not live action. [...] You'll get the first glimpse at the world Reach, which I think is going to be phenomenal and I think is going to be the biggest game next year by far. Folks loved ODST and it was great, but you know, when people see the huge leap forward Bungie is taking with Reach, I don't know if you've seen it yet, but everyone I've talked to that seen it, has been on the team, is incredibly excited about this game. [...] It's going to be an epic piece, the guys at Bungie have done a phenomenal job, we are really proud to be partnered with them for this."    

He's pretty psyched :D And now, I am too. That ass! I was trying to keep my expectations in check!  
 
What do you people think? 
 
Link to the Podcast where this unfolds "
I just listened to the podcast and he never said the parts after your first [...]
Posted by Zereta
@Diamond said:
" @Zereta said:

" Yea... I'm serious. The Spike TV VGA Awards is on 12/12 and as always, its more about the exclusive previews for next year's games than the actual awards. Geoff recently went on to Major's Minute, the podcast of Major Nelson (Xbox Live Bro for those who don't know) and said the following about Halo: Reach: 
 

 "At the VGAs, you'll actually go down onto the Planet Reach and see this game for the first time. It's all going to be in-game stuff, this is not CG, this is not live action. [...] You'll get the first glimpse at the world Reach, which I think is going to be phenomenal and I think is going to be the biggest game next year by far. Folks loved ODST and it was great, but you know, when people see the huge leap forward Bungie is taking with Reach, I don't know if you've seen it yet, but everyone I've talked to that seen it, has been on the team, is incredibly excited about this game. [...] It's going to be an epic piece, the guys at Bungie have done a phenomenal job, we are really proud to be partnered with them for this."    

He's pretty psyched :D And now, I am too. That ass! I was trying to keep my expectations in check!  
 
What do you people think? 
 
Link to the Podcast where this unfolds "
I just listened to the podcast and he never said the parts after your first [...] "
Its right there. I'm listening to it right now O.O
Posted by Zereta

Yup, just checked. Its there. All of it :D

Posted by Diamond
@Zereta said:
Its right there. I'm listening to it right now O.O
Time in the audio?  I was listening pretty carefully and Geoff always seems like he wants to catch Major Nelson in saying some PS3 game is great.
Posted by Zereta

Can't really tell because I am listening to it via the Quicktime player, so there are no time-stamps. Its right at the beginning, once Major Nelson is done talking to the Headset guy, They talk about Major Nelson not going to the VGAs despite Geoff inviting him and then Major calls him "Mr Exclusive" then Geoff says all that. Then after the second [...], there is a pause where Major says he hasn't seen Reach himself yet and then cuts back to Geoff. 
 
@Diamond said:

" @Zereta said:
Its right there. I'm listening to it right now O.O
Time in the audio?  I was listening pretty carefully and Geoff always seems like he wants to catch Major Nelson in saying some PS3 game is great. "
Edited by Diamond

OK I heard it, it's about 79 minutes in.  You got the quote a bit wrong in a few places, but it's also how he says it that threw me off.  I get the feeling he's just saying he just thinks it'll be the most popular game, which makes sense.
 
Fixed quote :

"You'll get, uh, a first glimpse at the uh the world of Reach, which is uh, phenomenal and you know I think is going to be the biggest game next year by far uh and I think uh folks loved ODST and thought it was great but when people see the huge leap forward Bungie is taking with Reach, I don't know if you've seen it yet, but uh everyone I've talked to that's uh you know has been on the team, is incredibly excited about that game."
 
"It's going to be an epic piece, the guys at Bungie have done a phenomenal job, we are really proud to be partnered with them on this."   

Posted by Zereta
@Diamond said:
" OK I heard it, it's about 79 minutes in.  You got the quote a bit wrong in a few places, but it's also how he says it that threw me off.  I get the feeling he's just saying he just thinks it'll be the most popular game, which makes sense. "
Yea, the quote's a bit wrong. To be fair, I took it off a dude from the Bungie net forums. 
 
What I gathered was that what he's seen of it is what's phenomenal and apparently Bungie and other people who have seen the game that he's talked to feel the same.
Posted by Symphony

Call me jaded, but that whole speech sounded like PR spin, especially considering Gametrailers is partnered with Microsoft which, correct me if I'm wrong, means money has exchanged hands at some point to promote the game.

Posted by Hitchenson

I couldn't be more excited for this. Truly. Will I be able to watch the VGAs online somewhere? Justin.TV? 

Posted by Zereta
@Symphony said:
" Call me jaded, but that whole speech sounded like PR spin, especially considering Gametrailers is partnered with Microsoft which, correct me if I'm wrong, means money has exchanged hands at some point to promote the game. "
Hey, there's always reason for suspicion. What you said is valid, but then again, the other game talked about in the podcast on Microsoft's side is Crackdown 2 and after the high of Halo: Reach, Geoff maybe mentioned Crackdown 2 for about 5 seconds. The dude seemed like he was legitimately psyched for it. 
 
@Hitchenson said:
" I couldn't be more excited for this. Truly. Will I be able to watch the VGAs online somewhere? Justin.TV?  "
 
The Spike website will have a live stream of it I think. If you're only interested in this video though, Bungie has come out and said that they will put it up on Bungie.net after the show ends. 
Posted by Hitchenson
@Zereta: Awesome. Cheers dude.
Posted by Zereta
@Hitchenson said:
" @Zereta: Awesome. Cheers dude. "
No problem, my friend.
Posted by Hexogen

Well I hope it's as phenomenal as he claims it is, because they're going to have to impress the hell out of me to get me to buy another Halo game. Halo 3 was good and all, but I don't have the money to to spend $60 on merely good games. This needs to be a major step forward for the series or I'll probably just wind up borrowing it from a friend.

Posted by keyhunter

ODST was a step backwards, but Halo 3 itself has yet to be matched. Bungie better not try and get all nostalgic and shit. Even though this is before the first Halo I want some Master Chief wielding like two pistols in each hand and wearing a trenchcoat full of guns.

Posted by Zereta
@keyhunter said:
" ODST was a step backwards, but Halo 3 itself has yet to be matched. Bungie better not try and get all nostalgic and shit. Even though this is before the first Halo I want some Master Chief wielding like two pistols in each hand and wearing a trenchcoat full of guns. "
I think, maybe, you might be expecting a bit too much haha :D No trenchcoat is badass enough for the chief. 
Posted by Jeust

well he's probably paid to be hyped... So... also there is so little information about reach that it is hard to be excited for now.

Posted by Zereta
@Jeust said:
" well he's probably paid to be hyped... So... also there is so little information about reach that it is hard to be excited for now. "
I still doubt this was a marketing act though, if not Crackdown 2, which was mentioned as well, would have gotten some love as well. 
 
And he has seen stuff we haven't.
Posted by Jeust
@Zereta: 
 
I agree... but it's better to wait and see.
 
But it's hard to understand if the game is trully awesome, why microsoft is taking the halo franchise from bungie.
Posted by empfeix
@Jeust said:
" @Zereta:   I agree... but it's better to wait and see.  But it's hard to understand if the game is trully awesome, why microsoft is taking the halo franchise from bungie. "
I'm not sure what you are getting at.  Bungie has said it wants to do something other then Halo in the past.  In fact I'm a little surprised after that whole ordeal they are still trucking along making Halo stuff.  Guess saying one thing is easy enough but then getting paid is an entirely different motivator.
Edited by crunchUK
@Zereta said:

" @SonicFire said:

" I really do not care about the Halo franchise any more, so Bungie is going to have to do something spectacular to pique my interest on this one. It's just my opinion, but I thought that Halo ODST looked and played like an outmoded game.  To be fair, of course everyone on the team is stoked about it. But you know, the team developing rogue warrior was ecstatic about their knife kill system too. In terms of advancement, Bungie will have to do to Halo what Infinity Ward did with the first Modern Warfare. If they can, then I'll be the first to buy it. "

Well, to be fair again, Geoff did say people who have seen it outside the team feel the same way. Oh and if you don't mind me asking, what do you mean "Bungie will have to do to Halo what Infinity Ward did with the first Modern Warfare"? What did IW do? I'm asking this in the most sincere way possible, and throwing my intense hatred for IW out of the way first. I am sincerely curious :D "
Dumb it down. "Spectacularly". i would like to see reach's multiplayer much, much bigger. If you've ever had an "elephant war" with all hogs, turrets, choppers and players thrown into the fray on the sands of ...sandtrap in CTF then you know what i'm talking about. SUch incredible battles happen once in a blue moon, Reach needs to make it happen more often.  As for the campaign i imagine it will play more like ODST as you're basically playing as early spartans, and the balance between automag and SMG that they had was awesome. Only it will be much, much more epic. Quite simply because ODST's trailer was you falling into a city and then being very quiet watching brutes go by. Reach's trailer was of a planet exploding.
 
 
Anyway i dont even know what spike TV is, so when will this be on the internet?
Posted by Jeust
@empfeix said:
" @Jeust said:
" @Zereta:   I agree... but it's better to wait and see.  But it's hard to understand if the game is trully awesome, why microsoft is taking the halo franchise from bungie. "
I'm not sure what you are getting at.  Bungie has said it wants to do something other then Halo in the past.  In fact I'm a little surprised after that whole ordeal they are still trucking along making Halo stuff.  Guess saying one thing is easy enough but then getting paid is an entirely different motivator. "
I wasn't getting at anything. Just wondering... Yep money counts, especially in times of economic crysis.
Posted by WinterSnowblind
@Jeust said:
" @empfeix said:
" @Jeust said:
" @Zereta:   I agree... but it's better to wait and see.  But it's hard to understand if the game is trully awesome, why microsoft is taking the halo franchise from bungie. "
I'm not sure what you are getting at.  Bungie has said it wants to do something other then Halo in the past.  In fact I'm a little surprised after that whole ordeal they are still trucking along making Halo stuff.  Guess saying one thing is easy enough but then getting paid is an entirely different motivator. "
I wasn't getting at anything. Just wondering... Yep money counts, especially in times of economic crysis. "
I'm not sure you understand the situation here.
 
Bungie has said they want to stop making Halo games, it has nothing to do with Microsoft taking it away from them or anything else, they just want to branch out.
When this was announced, they said Reach would be their final Halo game.  Nothing has changed.
Posted by Zereta
@crunchUK said:
" @Zereta said:
" @SonicFire said:
" I really do not care about the Halo franchise any more, so Bungie is going to have to do something spectacular to pique my interest on this one. It's just my opinion, but I thought that Halo ODST looked and played like an outmoded game.  To be fair, of course everyone on the team is stoked about it. But you know, the team developing rogue warrior was ecstatic about their knife kill system too. In terms of advancement, Bungie will have to do to Halo what Infinity Ward did with the first Modern Warfare. If they can, then I'll be the first to buy it. "
Well, to be fair again, Geoff did say people who have seen it outside the team feel the same way. Oh and if you don't mind me asking, what do you mean "Bungie will have to do to Halo what Infinity Ward did with the first Modern Warfare"? What did IW do? I'm asking this in the most sincere way possible, and throwing my intense hatred for IW out of the way first. I am sincerely curious :D "
Dumb it down. "Spectacularly". i would like to see reach's multiplayer much, much bigger. If you've ever had an "elephant war" with all hogs, turrets, choppers and players thrown into the fray on the sands of ...sandtrap in CTF then you know what i'm talking about. SUch incredible battles happen once in a blue moon, Reach needs to make it happen more often. Anyway i dont even know what spike TV is, so when will this be on the internet? "
Haha, you don't get it in the UK as well? (Assuming you are from the UK and your name isn't just for lols). Yea, we here in Singapore don't get it as well. Well, the VGAs will be shown via live stream on Spike.com. I'm sure there will be Youtube videos of them as well. If all you're interested in is the Reach video, then Bungie has said they will put it up on Bungie.net once the show's over. 
 
And I have experienced what you described as a "Elephant War" before, Crunch. And brother, that is one of the many reasons why Halo 3 is still my number one game. 
 
And its funny how out paths cross everytime we get to something Halo related.@empfeix said:
" @Jeust said:
" @Zereta:   I agree... but it's better to wait and see.  But it's hard to understand if the game is trully awesome, why microsoft is taking the halo franchise from bungie. "
I'm not sure what you are getting at.  Bungie has said it wants to do something other then Halo in the past.  In fact I'm a little surprised after that whole ordeal they are still trucking along making Halo stuff.  Guess saying one thing is easy enough but then getting paid is an entirely different motivator. "
Because a lot of people still want Halo. ODST was a corporate decision to make up for the cancelled Peter Jackson project but Reach is a labor of love because for all the Halo Lore Junkies (myself included), Reach is like the most epic thing to happen in the Halo universe. And besides, A team at Bungie is working on a New IP as we speak.
Edited by Jeust
@WinterSnowblind:
 
I forgot about it... Thanks for the heads up!
 
@Zereta: 
 
I can work with that :p
 
A new ip outside of the halo universe isn't it?
Posted by Zereta
@Jeust said:
" @Zereta:   I can work with that :p  A new ip outside of the halo universe isn't it? "
Yep. I expect an announcement either at Next Year's E3 or hell, if Reach does well, Next year's VGA sounds like a good time.
Posted by Rhaknar

im not bashing reach in any way, im looking forward to it, but of course Geoff would say that on a microsoft podcast

Posted by Zereta
@Rhaknar said:
" im not bashing reach in any way, im looking forward to it, but of course Geoff would say that on a microsoft podcast "
You see, Normally I would think that as well but if he were going to promote the games being shown on the Microsoft front, wouldn't it make more sense to talk a lot about Crackdown 2 instead, which was also mentioned?
Posted by crunchUK

Actually, bungie only said that they were never going to make a halo 4.

Edited by HandsomeDead

ODST is probably my game of the year, so the buzz on Reach is great to hear. 3 dollar bill, y'all.

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