"Why do you think that certain perks, say, Juggernaut or Martyrdom or any of these other perks you consider to be "nooby" shouldn't be in the game. Just because you don't like them doesn't mean the person using them is any less skilled or anything like that.
Y'know I really don't like snipers in this game but that doesn't mean I think all sniping weapons should be removed from the game. I don't think that players that use this particular strategy are "noobs" because they hide away and kill from a distance. It's just another way of playing the game, another strategy to use and it's exactly the same for perks.
i could not DISAGREE more. using perks like Martyrdom and claymores is a clear sign that you suck at the game. if a person was skilled at the game they would not need to use these perks to get kills. Indirect kills are fucking stupid. And you cannot compare these perks to snipers, yes snipers can be annoying but at least there is skill involved, they have to spot their target, line up and take the shot and have good reactions if they miss. Can you please tell me where is the SKILL involved in killing someone with a claymore or a martyrdom grenade "
Claymores are a good way of locking down an area your protecting.
"The thing that bugs me the most about martyrdom is that it basically makes you a suicide bomber. How many U.S. Marines do you think would pull the pin on a grenade while they're on the ground dieing?"
It's only a game!
Marty is annoying in certain modes such as TDM when you get killed by a team mate.