Damm thats beefy !
  
 
http://gamingbolt.com/rage-takes-21-22gb-of-disc-space-when-installed-on-the-xbox-360 

...I guess? It's something we have to get used to as games get packed with more content and better art.

Wonder how much it'll be on the PC

MEGA textures!

PC/PS3 versions probably 30+ GB's then. I don't know if I want to download that from Steam. I wouldn't be playing for a month after it is released.

How many discs is it going to use? I remember hearing how they wanted 3 discs for xbox but the costs were too high and restricting the game into 2 discs would decrease the quality of the game.

7GB wais the max install size for an Xbox 360 disc until an update expanded the space to 8GB.
 
@Dany said:

How many discs is it going to use? I remember hearing how they wanted 3 discs for xbox but the costs were too high and restricting the game into 2 discs would decrease the quality of the game.

40 disks on pc.

Carmack went over this kinda on the Quakecon keynote. He didn't say why, but did allude to some reason why they couldn't do a "partial" install for Rage on 360, so it has to fully install (so 22GB is probably close to the PC install size aswell) and on PS3 he said something around 10GB I think.

Good.

@desolation15 said:

@Dany: Sounds like 3 disc to me. 6.5 is the biggest install I've ever come across. 6.5x3 = 19.5 gigs So no way it's 2 discs.

That is good news.

Microsoft needs to implement that when you install games that have multiple discs is to use the first disc to play the entire game.

I'm not sure how it is on PS3, because I remember that MGS4 used all 50 of the gigabytes, and it's install was around 6 gigs. But what do I know?

Fuck... I only have 20gigs on my 360.

Carmack went over this kinda on the Quakecon keynote. He didn't say why, but did allude to some reason why they couldn't do a "partial" install for Rage on 360, so it has to fully install (so 22GB is probably close to the PC install size aswell) and on PS3 he said something around 10GB I think.

I plan to get the floppy disc edition for no other reason than the freaking huge box it comes in.

Well DVD has had a hell of a run for spanning 2 consoles.  Its still kicking pretty well too.  I wonder what the break down for data is.  Id accept this game as actually needing 22Gigs, vs MGS4 which I think was mostly uncompressed audio, and well everything to hype blu ray as necessary, 

How many discs is it going to use? I remember hearing how they wanted 3 discs for xbox but the costs were too high and restricting the game into 2 discs would decrease the quality of the game.

I've never even heard of the game, but considering the install size, the name sounds appropriate enough.

The outrageousness of an install that big only makes me more anxious to see and play Rage. Dead Space 2 needed two disks to preserve it's creative integrity, as I heard that explained. Carmack kept mentioning 6 years of development in that keynote, so that must mean a lot of content, and a lot they were unwilling to cut, and/or the large disk/HDD space needed for these 'megatextures'. Moving paintings indeed.

It's 3 discs that's why.

I'm not sure how it is on PS3, because I remember that MGS4 used all 50 of the gigabytes, and it's install was around 6 gigs. But what do I know?

Ah, that makes more sense.

Also, Microsoft needs to find a solution to the multiple discs thing. It is not really an issue but a nuisance that should be dealt with.

Brutal.

@DillonWerner said:

Wonder how much it'll be on the PC

who cares, I still have 1.3 TB free on my HD .... *PC fanboymode: off*

Assuming I were to buy Rage, I'd have plenty enough hard drive space for it. It's funny that you wouldn't be able to install the game at all if you were still stuck using your 20GB model hard drive (with only 14-15GB usable space, remember).

Wait a second, if it's 3 discs... how can it be 22 gig?

I thought the max size for an Xbox disc was 6.8 gig? Which means it can't be more than 20.4 gig in total. Unless you download that extra 2.

Right?

@Creamypies:Well their was that thing about them changing the format of the xbox discs to allow 1 more gig of data on to them. I dunno if that 1gb thing is even real but they sent halo discs to try out the new format...

Wait a second, if it's 3 discs... how can it be 22 gig?

I thought the max size for an Xbox disc was 6.8 gig? Which means it can't be more than 20.4 gig in total. Unless you download that extra 2.

Right?

@Dany said:

@Creamypies:Well their was that thing about them changing the format of the xbox discs to allow 1 more gig of data on to them. I dunno if that 1gb thing is even real but they sent halo discs to try out the new format...

Ahh yes, I forgot about that. Well if they're using this new format then I guess it all adds up.

the retail Pc version is 3 dvds also like the 360 version. I pre-ordered it on Steam...should be... interesting :P aw who am i kididng, i download 30gigs in like 1 hour anyway, and i have plenty of space

Great news considering the original 360 hard drive is 13.6gb formatted.

It's the same size as a full LA Noire install (which didn't bother me in the slightest). 
 
As for Rage's discs, 2 for the SP, 1 for the MP.

And on PS3, 1 blu ray. Guess I'll be getting Rage on PS3.

22GB is more space than my harddrive holds when it's empty(still rocking the super old launch 360).

@Redbullet685 said:

And on PS3, 1 blu ray. Guess I'll be getting Rage on PS3.

"It has to load everything from the DVD or the Blu-ray – even worse in terms of total latency time – you listen to that Blu-ray churning around as it's pulling everything in."

Carmack himself said that the fully installed 360 version runs far better than the PS3 version will with its install, because of the blu-ray read speed being so darned slow. Frankly, if you want to play the game well, get upgrade your PC.

This is exactly why we'll be seeing new consoles from Microsoft and Sony next year.

@Hailinel said:

I plan to get the floppy disc edition for no other reason than the freaking huge box it comes in.

If they released this game on floppies, I would buy it at any price.

@Hailinel said:

I plan to get the floppy disc edition for no other reason than the freaking huge box it comes in.

That would be one huge box, 15,715 floppies. You would need a truck to get it home.

I plan to get the floppy disc edition for no other reason than the freaking huge box it comes in.

@Redbullet685 said:

And on PS3, 1 blu ray. Guess I'll be getting Rage on PS3.

"It has to load everything from the DVD or the Blu-ray – even worse in terms of total latency time – you listen to that Blu-ray churning around as it's pulling everything in."

Carmack himself said that the fully installed 360 version runs far better than the PS3 version will with its install, because of the blu-ray read speed being so darned slow. Frankly, if you want to play the game well, get upgrade your PC.

This is exactly why we'll be seeing new consoles from Microsoft and Sony next year.

Guess I'll be getting Rage on PS3.

well, maybe i will use this as an excuse to get a bigger hard drive for my 360 
 
 
...maybe

well, I don't care about space.  I have three HDD (2TB each for backup total 6TB). my gaming laptop (Asus G73)  has 750GB (I still have 500GB left), extra 128GB SSD. so what am I care.  

300 floppy disks.

@alternate said:

@L33tfella_H said:

Carmack went over this kinda on the Quakecon keynote. He didn't say why, but did allude to some reason why they couldn't do a "partial" install for Rage on 360, so it has to fully install (so 22GB is probably close to the PC install size aswell) and on PS3 he said something around 10GB I think.

I don't think think 360 has ever done partial installs. It isn't a data cache like PS3, the "installs" just image the disc (or discs) to the HDD. Even the Forza 3 extras install just imaged the second disc. My guess it will be like previous multi disc games - you can delete and install each disc as you go - seeing as they have to make provision for ppl not installing there cannot be too much backtracking of areas.

This is wrong. Forza 3 uses a custom install process. You can choose what to install from disc 2 and you never have to insert it again, if you choose to install everything. This sounds to be the same case with Rage, so there is more likely then not a single "play" disc if you choose to install.

Guess I'll get the PS3 versions seeing as I have a 320gb model with barely anything on it.

Technology is moving forward, not all developers wanna restrict their games with 5+ year old tech just to suit the consoles and be on 1-2 disks..  
 
So it only makes sense that a triple A 2011 game requires 3 disks for a 2005 machine

@alternate said:

@L33tfella_H said:

Carmack went over this kinda on the Quakecon keynote. He didn't say why, but did allude to some reason why they couldn't do a "partial" install for Rage on 360, so it has to fully install (so 22GB is probably close to the PC install size aswell) and on PS3 he said something around 10GB I think.

I don't think think 360 has ever done partial installs. It isn't a data cache like PS3, the "installs" just image the disc (or discs) to the HDD. Even the Forza 3 extras install just imaged the second disc. My guess it will be like previous multi disc games - you can delete and install each disc as you go - seeing as they have to make provision for ppl not installing there cannot be too much backtracking of areas.

This is wrong. Forza 3 uses a custom install process. You can choose what to install from disc 2 and you never have to insert it again, if you choose to install everything. This sounds to be the same case with Rage, so there is more likely then not a single "play" disc if you choose to install.

@solidejake said:

I'm not sure how it is on PS3, because I remember that MGS4 used all 50 of the gigabytes, and it's install was around 6 gigs. But what do I know?

The only reason MGS4 took up a whole blueray is because there was 30 hours of voice acting in like 12 languages