If Andrew Ryan asked you, before it went to hell, Would you move to Rapture? Leave everything for a utopian society?

#1 Edited by Brontes_Muse (187 posts) -

I probably would.  It would have been the greatest minds in the world, you know.  

#2 Posted by atejas (3057 posts) -

It went to hell for a reason.

#3 Posted by BiggerBomb (6944 posts) -

Eutopia is synonymous with distopia. Perfection can never be achieved, and to attempt to do so most often results in cataclysm. So I vote "no."

#4 Posted by Hamz (6846 posts) -

Hell-fucking-yes I would move to Rapture. It went to hell for a reason sure, but I've played the game. I can advise him on how to avoid this, all I need is a wrench and the lightning plasmid and I'll take out that Frank Fontaine!

<3 Rapture + BioShock!

#5 Posted by Bullet_Jr (770 posts) -

No, there are sharks under the water so no.

San Vanelona on the other hand...

#6 Posted by optimusprime223 (396 posts) -

simple reason is that while all those great minds would be there, and it was a very very very cool city, i am stupid for anything other than cleaner....

#7 Posted by Brontes_Muse (187 posts) -

Remember, you don't know that plasmids would exist.  So an ADAM addicted society would be impossible to exist.  

#8 Posted by Diamond (8634 posts) -

It wasn't even Utopian before it went to complete hell.  People were promised a better society and were enslaved by Ryan before Fontaine made it even worse.

#9 Posted by Karmum (11517 posts) -
Brontes_Muse said:
"Remember, you don't know that plasmids would exist.  So an ADAM addicted society would be impossible to exist.  "
Man, I don't know, I wouldn't mind it being in hell and living there. Plasmid addicted society?!?!
#10 Posted by HazBazz (1901 posts) -

I'd say "would you kindly make me the leader of rapture?", then move in.

#11 Posted by HandsomeDead (11863 posts) -

Definitely. I love BioShock's take on society.

#12 Posted by OneEyedNinja7 (797 posts) -

Maybe if there weren't plasmids or people with huge egos at every turn. I'm all for a community made up with the elites of society, but most of audio logs made the smart dudes sound like total pretentious dicks.

#13 Edited by crunchUK (5963 posts) -

isn't andrew ryan's utopia simply based on the most extreme  or "pure" capitalism there could be where you need to pay even for things like safety so.... no i wouldn't. success would become monopoly and monopoly would become tyranny

#14 Posted by crunchUK (5963 posts) -
Brontes_Muse said:
"Remember, you don't know that plasmids would exist.  So an ADAM addicted society would be impossible to exist.  "
well actually adam was discovered in that sea slug a good few years after the creation of rapture.


#15 Posted by Claude (16254 posts) -

I would go and be dead... enough said.

#16 Edited by Sushbag (327 posts) -

If I could leave whenever I wanted, not be influenced by gene-modification addiction, and Rapture had good internet access? Fuck yea.

#17 Edited by William (441 posts) -

Do they have working xbox 360s down there?

#18 Posted by Alex_Murphy (1184 posts) -

If I could get some of those kick ass plasmids then hell yea.

#19 Posted by c1337us (5751 posts) -

I doubt it. I dont make leaps like that easily.

#20 Posted by Seagull_Feeder (10 posts) -

I think that when asked, it would be hard to refuse.

#21 Posted by crunchUK (5963 posts) -
crunchUK said:
"isn't andrew ryan's utopia simply based on the most extreme  or "pure" capitalism there could be where you need to pay even for things like safety so.... no i wouldn't. success would become monopoly and monopoly would become tyranny"
I was thinking about this and funnily enough that is exactly what DID happen
#22 Posted by Brontes_Muse (187 posts) -

I think the new rapture looks pretty good. 

#23 Posted by AgentJ (8778 posts) -

Only if he worded it in such a way that i couldnt refuse.

#24 Posted by NTM (7266 posts) -

Probably not, 'cause then if I disagree'd with him, he'd probably either kill me himself, or have me turned into a Big Daddy, and that doesn't sound pleasant. Ryan only asked the best of people in their field, and well, I am not the best in anything I don't think. Now, would I want to visit Rapture before it goes to hell in general? That's a question I was going to ask on here a few days ago, and a question I was thinking about for myself to answer, and I'd say yes, most likely, but would I have knowledge of it going to crap or not? That's something else I was thinking, if I did, it'd make the journey there even more scary, but I may still do it.

#25 Posted by Mesoian (1572 posts) -

Can you set me up with a well paying job?

Can you set me up with a nice place to live?

Can you ensure that the area is interesting and I'll have things to do?

Can you ensure that the people in the area will be interesting?

IF you can answer yes to these questions, sure.

In real life, once you really hit the job market, you will be asked to move upon finding a new job, or sometimes you just want to run away. You simply have to ask yourself these questions and see where life takes you. Sometimes you end up in the lap of luxury, sometimes you end up in a shithole for a certain amount of times. And, in the case of bioshock, sometimes you get both.

#26 Posted by DystopiaX (5293 posts) -

No because the way Rapture is set up it would eventually go to hell anyway.

#27 Posted by Venatio (4482 posts) -

Yeah I would

#28 Posted by BlackLagoon (1383 posts) -

@Mesoian said:

Can you set me up with a well paying job?

Can you set me up with a nice place to live?

Can you ensure that the area is interesting and I'll have things to do?

Can you ensure that the people in the area will be interesting?

In the context of the game, this would be the mentality of the parasite. Ryan would say he owes you nothing, it would be solley your responsibility to create your own living within the framework of complete freedom he's created (and start paying him for the use of his breathable air and other property). Frank Fontaine on the other hand would happily hook you up, just as long as you did him a few favors here and there...

#29 Posted by MstrMnyBgs (123 posts) -

Most of these responses take into the account of knowing what happened throughout the timeline of rapture after the events unfolded. No one knew it was going to go to hell, no one knew people would do the things they did. If you take into account how rapture looked at the very beginning, or the very idea of it then it is incredibly enticing and promising. But obviously that we know what happened and how it turned out, of course people are going to say no because they feel smarter about the scenario.

Hindsight is 20/20.

#30 Posted by MiniPato (2721 posts) -

Heck no. I don't care how good of an infrastructure you have, I am not living in a city at the bottom of the ocean.

#31 Posted by theguy (796 posts) -

If I thought the system would work I would. I would love to live in a place where the the ideals of rapture are reality but I'm skeptical as to whether it's possible. I'd probably go as long as I knew I could leave at any time.

#32 Posted by believer258 (11642 posts) -

Nope. I don't really like the idea of being stuck underwater in case things go pear shaped - and in this case I would have been right.

#33 Posted by JeanLuc (3572 posts) -

Assuming I didn't know Rapture's fate?

Live in? No.

Visit? Fuck yeah! Its a city underwater. Who wouldn't want to see that?

#34 Posted by Dagbiker (6939 posts) -

Would you kindly...

#35 Posted by CatsAkimbo (601 posts) -

It didn't go to hell right away, right? The years before that would be fucking awesome.

#36 Posted by Silvergun (297 posts) -

If some dude came up to me and asked if I wanted to live in his stupid city under the sea, I'd think he was insane. And I'd be RIGHT.

#37 Edited by Opus (148 posts) -

I don't have anything tying me down to where I live currently, so yes, I would go. I would also be a part of the problem and abuse Adam and Plasmids, because who doesn't want to start fires with a snap of their finger? Eventually I would have wound up as just another Splicer.

#38 Posted by imsh_pl (3295 posts) -

They had no government right? Would be nice to live in a society not based on coercion for a change.

#39 Posted by Seedofpower (3925 posts) -

Holy shit this thread is old, and No I don't want to live at the bottom of the sea.

#40 Posted by Fearbeard (824 posts) -

A: Yes, I would go with defiance.

I would also definitely go if that was a choice.

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