Red Dead Redemption absence from Giant Bomb?

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#1 Posted by Sackmanjones (4609 posts) -

Does anyone know why? I remember a bombcast where they metioned it and they seemed to have no interest in it. I find it a little strange considering the game has picked up steam and is very anticipated. Anyone guesses why they have sorta avoided the game? Maybe they will suprise us with it when the game launches or somethin.
 
by the way love giant bomb just a friendly conversation :)

#2 Posted by Vinchenzo (6192 posts) -

They haven't talked about it. Will probably discuss it closer to the release. Big whoop.

#3 Posted by eclipsesis (1242 posts) -

embargo's dude, damn embargo's

#4 Edited by iAmJohn (6091 posts) -

Man, you sure do like Red Dead Redemption, don't you? :|
 

#5 Posted by Sackmanjones (4609 posts) -

I realize the embargo but other sites got some hands on stuff and i was just curious 
 
@iAmJohn:  and YES I WANT THE GAME BAD haha. pre ordered since Jan. :)

#6 Posted by MonkeyMelon (217 posts) -

I think there will be more on it near release date.   Week or Two .

#7 Posted by Nadafinga (953 posts) -

It is kinda weird that they're not really posting much of the trailers though (and when they do it's much later). Rockstar maybe gave some exclusivity to IGN or something, giving them first looks at everything.
 
I'm sure they'll have plenty to say about it once they get their hands on it.

#8 Posted by Sackmanjones (4609 posts) -
@MonkeyMelon: ha its all ready two weeks man
#9 Posted by MikkaQ (10225 posts) -

It's just typical rockstar, they like keeping coverage to a minimum, so every time they release trailers, people go "holy shiiiiit". Plus there's been other releases that's probably taken up the staff's time, Alan Wake, or Street Fighter, things like that. 

#10 Posted by Gizmo (5389 posts) -

At least we've actually seen gameplay of Red Dead. Remember GTA IV? That game was insanely under wraps. The first gameplay was leaked out a couple of days before release.

#11 Posted by Leolian (13 posts) -

I was wondering why this got so little coverage. Hope we get a quicklook soon.
#12 Posted by xyzygy (9629 posts) -

Does anyone know when the embargo is lifted for this game?

#13 Posted by Jacy (139 posts) -

See, I'd be convinced by this embargo argument, or simply saying 'Typical Rockstar!' if they hadn't thrown their old policies on their head. They've given hours upon hours of game time to people in the industry. There's many examples, from Kotaku to Guardian.co.uk, we've seen plenty of coverage for the game. Yet, even the trailers seem to be lacking on this website. For one of the most highly anticipated games of the year, I don't quite get that.

#14 Posted by Sackmanjones (4609 posts) -
@Jacy:  I agree all the way. I believe there are 2 maybe 3 trailers. and like 2 articles! I mean GTTV is doing an enitre episode devoted to RDR. But idk i expect lots when the game comes out
#15 Posted by Rhaknar (5940 posts) -

they probably dont have it yet, since there doesnt seem to be an embargo

#16 Posted by belaraphon (451 posts) -

i remember when gta4 came out and couldnt find anything about how the game played until 2 days before it came out.  honestly, it just made me want to play the game more.

#17 Posted by MonkeyMelon (217 posts) -

I don't care if they don't have coverage on it, I know the game will be awesome.
 
But it is a little weird.

#18 Posted by Sackmanjones (4609 posts) -
@MonkeyMelon: I would expect something on the bombcast this week. But next week it should almost be confirmed i think and im talkin more than just the new release section
#19 Posted by MonkeyMelon (217 posts) -
@Sackmanjones:  Yeah I don't get it.
#20 Posted by The_Laughing_Man (13629 posts) -
@MonkeyMelon said:
" @Sackmanjones:  Yeah I don't get it. "
As for no previews. Rockstar has given it to other people. Mostly the "Big" Ones like IGN so meh.
#21 Posted by MonkeyMelon (217 posts) -

  @The_Laughing_Man:   Yeah but I figured they would at least have up to date trailers or some talk about the game with developers or somthing.

#22 Posted by The_Laughing_Man (13629 posts) -
@MonkeyMelon said:
"   @The_Laughing_Man:   Yeah but I figured they would at least have up to date trailers or some talk about the game with developers or somthing. "
Rockstar would not talk with Giantbomb. They seem a bit...well...Well they might....
#23 Posted by MonkeyMelon (217 posts) -
@The_Laughing_Man:  Yeah, they should have some cool stuff after it's released. Review / DLC.
#24 Posted by CenturionCajun (1461 posts) -

I remember Jeff commenting on the Bombcast after PAX East that he didn't go in to see Red Dead Redemption because they would have thrown him out. I would almost say he was joking but the tone in which he stated it and the way they quickly moved on seems to speak otherwise. In a less conspiracy theory heavy thought pattern I'd say that Giant Bomb doesn't rate to Rockstar and they are concentrating all of their media releases on IGN and Gamespot. Have you seen those places recently? Gamespot currently has a feature on the horses of Red Dead Redemption up and IGN has a lengthy article on being heroic.
 
So, I'm sure that when the game comes out there will be a review and lengthy discussion on the Bombcast. However, if at this point if we haven't seen any previews I doubt we are going to.

#25 Edited by Rhaknar (5940 posts) -
@CenturionCajun said:

" I remember Jeff commenting on the Bombcast after PAX East that he didn't go in to see Red Dead Redemption because they would have thrown him out. I would almost say he was joking but the tone in which he stated it and the way they quickly moved on seems to speak otherwise. In a less conspiracy theory heavy thought pattern I'd say that Giant Bomb doesn't rate to Rockstar and they are concentrating all of their media releases on IGN and Gamespot. Have you seen those places recently? Gamespot currently has a feature on the horses of Red Dead Redemption up and IGN has a lengthy article on being heroic.  So, I'm sure that when the game comes out there will be a review and lengthy discussion on the Bombcast. However, if at this point if we haven't seen any previews I doubt we are going to. "

I also thought that was a joke, but maybe not. you never know in the industry. Ryan tweeted that a quicklook will only come after the game is out, indicating that either there's a embargo, or they dont have a preview / review build
#26 Edited by Diamond (8634 posts) -

Yea I've noticed the cold treatment between Rockstar and Giant Bomb too.  It might be a case of Rockstar being pissed at Giant Bomb for something, maybe some leak by GB or maybe Rockstar just doesn't consider GB good enough?  Because either way, I'm sure Giant Bomb would have some coverage of the game up by now if they were receiving the same treatment of the other VG media sources that are covering the game more.
 
For what it's worth Jeff also said every person he talked to at PAX East either said it was a new GTA4 or didn't like it at all, and every person I heard from PAX either LOVED it or said it was GTA4.
 
Bad blood at the very least, and that's no rumor.

#27 Posted by AhmadMetallic (18955 posts) -

It saddens me.. But rockstar games can be hushy dicks

#28 Posted by ProfessorEss (7123 posts) -

Don't get me wrong, I love the site and I love the guys' commentary but they can often be somewhat petty, opinionated and unpredictable. Why would Rockstar go out of their way to provide these guys material that could just end up in a 2 star  review because their was no mustache customization?
 
Like Diamond said, I'm sure there will be some great RDR content on here post-release but I can kinda understand how the jaded gamer / zero accountability combination at Giant Bomb could scare off a developer regardless of the quality of their product.

#29 Posted by trophyhunter (5804 posts) -

settle the hell down 

#30 Edited by Milkman (16228 posts) -
@ProfessorEss said:

" Don't get me wrong, I love the site and I love the guys' commentary but they can often be somewhat petty, opinionated and unpredictable. Why would Rockstar go out of their way to provide these guys material that could just end up in a 2 star  review because their was no mustache customization? Like Diamond said, I'm sure there will be some great RDR content on here post-release but I can kinda understand how the jaded gamer / zero accountability combination at Giant Bomb could scare off a developer regardless of the quality of their product. "

They gave Grand Theft Auto IV game of the year. So, why wouldn't they? I don't know if it's a good idea to read into all these "conspiracy theories".
#31 Posted by xyzygy (9629 posts) -

Why is the embargo so close to the game's release? If Rockstar is confident in the game, why not put the reviews out early and increase hype for the game? 
 
Unless, that is, they're not confident in the game...

#32 Posted by Creamypies (4012 posts) -

Maybe because it's a cowboy game... and those kinda games are, more often than not, pretty terrible.
 
It's down to personal opinion, I know, but nothing about that game excites me.

#33 Edited by ProfessorEss (7123 posts) -
@Milkman said:

" @ProfessorEss said:

" Don't get me wrong, I love the site and I love the guys' commentary but they can often be somewhat petty, opinionated and unpredictable. Why would Rockstar go out of their way to provide these guys material that could just end up in a 2 star  review because their was no mustache customization? Like Diamond said, I'm sure there will be some great RDR content on here post-release but I can kinda understand how the jaded gamer / zero accountability combination at Giant Bomb could scare off a developer regardless of the quality of their product. "
They gave Grand Theft Auto IV game of the year. So, why wouldn't they? I don't if it's a good idea to read into all these "conspiracy theories". "

I'm sure yer right, it's probably nothing. I was just talkin hypothetically outta my ass to kill a few minutes :)
#34 Posted by RichardLOlson (1854 posts) -

Who cares, the game will be badass and everyone will rejoice about  the mulitplayer.

#35 Posted by ajamafalous (11592 posts) -

Just more conspiracy theory bullshit to throw out there that's probably completely unrelated:
 
Anyone ever figure out why The Lost & The Damned quick look was pulled?

#36 Posted by CenturionCajun (1461 posts) -

It could simply be a case of Rockstar giving Gamespot or IGN the early exclusive review that will pop up in a day or two and everyone else will have to wait until the 18th rolls around. It could also be that they arn't going to let anyone post reviews until the 18th. This doesn't mean that the game is necessarily bad. Does anyone remember the incredible restrictions placed on Metal Gear Solid IV reviews? Even those who were allowed to post early reviews weren't allowed to talk about essential gameplay elements such as load times and certain characters. Therefore most reviewers waited till the game was released to post reviews.
 
So, calm down. I didn't mean to start a bunch of conspiracy theory talk. I just remembered a strange comment that Jeff made from PAX East.

#37 Posted by Sackmanjones (4609 posts) -
@CenturionCajun:  Guess we will see
#38 Posted by OldManLight (785 posts) -
@Sackmanjones:  i somehow remember rockstar being notorious for their embargos.  i remember back to GTA 4 launch and there was a total blackout up until a day or 2 before launch when those NDA's were up.  then the videos and reviews poured in.  my money is that there's a gag order in place because nobody is really talking about it.
#39 Posted by JDDrewes (232 posts) -

i don't know if this has been stated somewhere else, but Red Dead Redemption isn't even on the major games list. 
While Lost Planet 2 and the new Prince of Persia are  
:/

#40 Posted by Claude (16251 posts) -

#41 Posted by BRNK (301 posts) -

Ryan said via twitter that they'll do a QL once RDR is out...meaning no advanced review code for GB. One can speculate until they are blue in the face as to why this is, but in the Bombcast where Jeff mentions it at PAX East, he seemed pretty apathetic about the game.  
The greatest thing about GB - the fact that the dudes cover what they want, how they want - can also be it's biggest liability. I think the dudes just aren't that into this game. 
 
Myself on the otherhand... I am, as Robert Ashley would say, stoking a serious game boner for RDR.

#42 Posted by Rhaknar (5940 posts) -

by the way, Kotaku also has no review copy of the game, they mentioned in a article today that they have to buy it.

#43 Posted by Moridin (710 posts) -

Jeff said something on Twitter last night about learning how to play Liar's Dice. Perhaps they finally have a review copy, or perhaps Jeff is just a baller. Well, he's a baller regardless - but you know what I mean.

#44 Edited by cardician (59 posts) -
@Moridin said:

" Jeff said something on Twitter last night about learning how to play Liar's Dice. Perhaps they finally have a review copy, or perhaps Jeff is just a baller. Well, he's a baller regardless - but you know what I mean. "

Yep, saw that too. I think they do have an early copy they probably just aren't allowed to say anything due to the embargo.
#45 Posted by Lokirth (4 posts) -

I hate to sound like a cynic, but there has been speculation before of Rockstar paying certain outlets to review their games, and to give them favorable scores. Perhaps Jeff and the guys wanted to wait until the game actually came out and to avoid the hype that everybody else is wrapped up in? 
 
I think Jeff, in particular, would be interested in remaining unbiased. That, or the circumstances have just been unfortunate and they haven't gotten around to getting any good hands-on time with the game. I highly doubt it's got anything to do with an embargo, as there are a good deal of websites who've taken a good look at the game. Maybe GiantBomb just didn't get a preview of the game? 
 
In any case, I'm sure we'll see a review soon enough after the game comes out; no need to worry about a lack of good previews. The game's out in five days, after all.

#46 Posted by cardician (59 posts) -

What games would R* needed to have bothered paying sites for in order to get good reviews? Their games have widely been hailed as being fantastic since at least GTA 3. I think you're a little off in your perception there buddy. Why pay for a good score when your games are honestly good enough to get a good score as it is? I happen to know businesses aren't in the habit of just throwing money away. Quite the opposite infact. I believe you're thinking of the company that made Kane & Lynch and created the whole Jeff/Gamespot debacle. But clearly they made up since they've been showing K&L 2 to Jeff recently.

#47 Posted by ProfessorEss (7123 posts) -

I highly doubt Rockstar pays anyone for anything.
I don't know if you noticed it, but they're in charge around here, not the videogame rags and blogs.

#48 Posted by Brad (2849 posts) -
@Sackmanjones said:

" @Jacy:  I agree all the way. I believe there are 2 maybe 3 trailers. and like 2 articles! I mean GTTV is doing an enitre episode devoted to RDR. But idk i expect lots when the game comes out "

 
This looks like two or three trailers to you? Seriously?
 
http://www.giantbomb.com/red-dead-redemption/61-25249/videos/  
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#49 Posted by Sackmanjones (4609 posts) -
@Brad:  So have you guys been anticipating the game at all? I know there is am embargo (or thats the rumor)  but I was just wondering if were. if your allowed to say of course
#50 Posted by ProfessorEss (7123 posts) -

Boosh.

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