These 2 costumes are hideous. A few gold pieces of cloth which apparently are some kind of dress, and a bikini with war paint? Friggin ridiculous.
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These 2 costumes are hideous. A few gold pieces of cloth which apparently are some kind of dress, and a bikini with war paint? Friggin ridiculous.
Sex sells, but who's buying?
Have you ever heard of Stiletto feminism? It's a branch off mainstream "MEN ARE PIGS!" feminism. Basically, a woman can dress as sexily or as slutty (as some would call it) as she wants. It's her prerogative. Being appreciated by men doesn't make you any less of a person and dressing in a bikini certainly doesn't. Just once men don't see you for only a pair of jugs in a bikini. Sheva dresses quite provocatively I'll admit but she is also killing zombies left right and center. That sister, is doing it for herself.
"Um, because the majority of people that will play this game are male? And female gamers should be intelligent enough not to care? "I'm female and I like Sheva's tribal outfit.
Check out DOA4 if you think this is "sexist"...
It's wrong to depict female beauty? Exploiting women would be to have female characters only appear in wet t-shirt contests. Why is it that a game can have jacked-up men with sharp blue eyes, that are practically right out of a highschool girl's locker, and not be called sexist; yet the second the slightest bit of a woman's cleavage is shown, people start crying sexist?
If the girls are portrayed as intelligent, loyal, and brave, why is it so offensive for them to be beautiful? I get it if you're talking about Ivy in SCIV, 'cus that is just creepy, but the whole angry feminist movement only exchanges the "blonde-bimbo" stereotype for the butch Home Depo lesbian type. Is that what you really want? I doubt it.
People need to grow up.
"Geno said:You know I have to kind of agree here. How many games do we see where the male protagonist is buffed beyond belief and yet no one says a thing about that. What about Dante in Devil May Cry, his sixpack is on show the entire time but again no one complains."Um, because the majority of people that will play this game are male? And female gamers should be intelligent enough not to care? "I'm female and I like Sheva's tribal outfit.I think you're forgetting how steroid filled Chris's arms are. So technically this game is 'sexiest' to men as well. Have you forgotten Excella too? It's a VIDEO GAME. It's a little fun!I love her gold outfit, it reminds me of Austin Powers :-) Very funny. At the end of the day they are optional costumes and the main costume Sheva has is very respectable. I see no problem with the other 2, I think you are just over reacting.You might as well complain about a certain other characters Battle Suit in mercenaries as well!"
Wow...of all the fucking things to get angry about. ARE YOU STUPID?! Wait, let me answer that for you. Yes, yes you are.
Ha, thought this would stir some trouble.
"Ha, thought this would stir some trouble.And Resident Evil 4 is purposely this way also. This is how Japan rolls. If you haven't noticed that yet, you aren't paying attention.Like I said, I'm not usually the type to get upset about this sort of thing. But these 2 costumes take ridiculous pretty close to the extreme. One scantily clad outfit, I could understand, but both? Really?!And don't give me crap about "go play DOA" or whatever. Those games are intentionally that way. I don't play semi-serious/semi-bananans shooter games to get my DOA-style fill. Take that crap somewhere else.Ashley might've had some revealing costume, but she had a suit of armour as well. There's ways to have fun without being completely demeaning."
Dude, it's not freaking demeaning. Have you ever been to a beach? Seen a fashion show on TV? There are clothes like that which normal women put on voluntarily.
Also I have to put this out there, usually the first person to say something is sexist/racist is sexist/racist themselves, because they noticed the difference before anyone else.
Wanting to see ladies naked isn't sexist. It's human nature.
I agree that the portrayal of women in most games is sexist. Guys like to justfiy it by saying it's natural but the fact is, there is a huge difference between something sexy and something sexist. Girls don't walk around dressed like sluts in the real world (most) and to justify such a decision in games by saying "cuz most gamers are males," makes me sick to be a male.
"I agree that the portrayal of women in most games is sexist. Guys like to justfiy it by saying it's natural but the fact is, there is a huge difference between something sexy and something sexist. Girls don't walk around dressed like sluts in the real world (most) and to justify such a decision in games by saying "cuz most gamers are males," makes me sick to be a male."You have a loose grasp of what sexism is, then. Making a fake lady with big boobs is not the same as "You are a woman, so I am immediately better than you."
"LuckyWanderDude said:If a woman doesn't like the depiction and feels degraded by it (sometimes it's a bit iffy but often it is overboard) that is the definition of sexist. My definition is a bit looser than most guys, I do agree."I agree that the portrayal of women in most games is sexist. Guys like to justfiy it by saying it's natural but the fact is, there is a huge difference between something sexy and something sexist. Girls don't walk around dressed like sluts in the real world (most) and to justify such a decision in games by saying "cuz most gamers are males," makes me sick to be a male."You have a loose grasp of what sexism is, then. Making a fake lady with big boobs is not the same as "You are a woman, so I am immediately better than you.""
Have you seen how buff Chris Redfield is? Not to mention how tight that t-shirt is on him. It seems like it's equal on both sides of the fence here. Also, if making a woman look slutty and overly sexualised is sexist, why isn't making guys incredibly handsome and overly athletic sexist too?
Who the fuck does something like this degrade? The character? Yeah, maybe, but that's if you consider them a real person with feelings.
A women who feels "degraded" by something a video game character is wearing is someone who is begging for an excuse to be sensationalistic.
"Have you seen how buff Chris Redfield is? Not to mention how tight that t-shirt is on him. It seems like it's equal on both sides of the fence here. Also, if making a woman look slutty and overly sexualised is sexist, why isn't making guys incredibly handsome and overly athletic sexist too?"I agree, it's definitely two-sided sexism. I wish people in the game industry weren't obsessed with action figure aesthetics in general.
"License_To_Bill said:"LuckyWanderDude said:If a woman doesn't like the depiction and feels degraded by it (sometimes it's a bit iffy but often it is overboard) that is the definition of sexist. My definition is a bit looser than most guys, I do agree.""I agree that the portrayal of women in most games is sexist. Guys like to justfiy it by saying it's natural but the fact is, there is a huge difference between something sexy and something sexist. Girls don't walk around dressed like sluts in the real world (most) and to justify such a decision in games by saying "cuz most gamers are males," makes me sick to be a male."You have a loose grasp of what sexism is, then. Making a fake lady with big boobs is not the same as "You are a woman, so I am immediately better than you.""
"LuckyWanderDude said:Dude, I don't mean if anyone is offended. You're lying to yourself if you think real human beings walk around dressed as slutty as most girls in games (particularly Japanese games) are."License_To_Bill said:"LuckyWanderDude said:If a woman doesn't like the depiction and feels degraded by it (sometimes it's a bit iffy but often it is overboard) that is the definition of sexist. My definition is a bit looser than most guys, I do agree.""I agree that the portrayal of women in most games is sexist. Guys like to justfiy it by saying it's natural but the fact is, there is a huge difference between something sexy and something sexist. Girls don't walk around dressed like sluts in the real world (most) and to justify such a decision in games by saying "cuz most gamers are males," makes me sick to be a male."You have a loose grasp of what sexism is, then. Making a fake lady with big boobs is not the same as "You are a woman, so I am immediately better than you.""
So if anyone is offended by anything then the depiction is sexist/racist/whathaveyou?"
"Dude, I don't mean if anyone is offended. You're lying to yourself if you think real human beings walk around dressed as slutty as most girls in games (particularly Japanese games) are."
Put yourself in a woman's shoes. Figuratively and literally. 'Cause it's sexy.
If you see a muscly, shirtless man in a videogame, do you feel like he is an embarrassment to men everywhere? Do you feel like you have been directly insulted?
"Put yourself in a woman's shoes. Figuratively and literally. 'Cause it's sexy.If you see a muscly, shirtless man in a videogame, do you feel like he is an embarrassment to men everywhere? Do you feel like you have been directly insulted?"I feel like unrealistic expectations have been set and that people are being taught to value the wrong things. In a lot of ways, that's worse than a direct insult because it's a much more subtle but harmful thing.
"LuckyWanderDude said:He lives in the politically correct land not of this world."Dude, I don't mean if anyone is offended. You're lying to yourself if you think real human beings walk around dressed as slutty as most girls in games (particularly Japanese games) are."
Where on Earth do you live?"
"BiggerBomb said:Not true. I don't often see girls walking around wearing nothing but garters and strings. I'm also not so much of an ape as to want to live in that world. Furthermore, the reason women feel the need to dress like that is because popular media (games included) encourage that sort of shallow, visual obsession with women."LuckyWanderDude said:He lives in the politically correct land not of this world.""Dude, I don't mean if anyone is offended. You're lying to yourself if you think real human beings walk around dressed as slutty as most girls in games (particularly Japanese games) are."
Where on Earth do you live?"
"License_To_Bill said:"LuckyWanderDude said:If a woman doesn't like the depiction and feels degraded by it (sometimes it's a bit iffy but often it is overboard) that is the definition of sexist. My definition is a bit looser than most guys, I do agree.""I agree that the portrayal of women in most games is sexist. Guys like to justfiy it by saying it's natural but the fact is, there is a huge difference between something sexy and something sexist. Girls don't walk around dressed like sluts in the real world (most) and to justify such a decision in games by saying "cuz most gamers are males," makes me sick to be a male."You have a loose grasp of what sexism is, then. Making a fake lady with big boobs is not the same as "You are a woman, so I am immediately better than you.""
I'm all for fun (like Elika's over the top outfit), but these are horridly sexist and realllllly degrading. And I don't typically get worked up about this.Why did they take such a cute character model, and make her look so cheap. Ugh. Default costume forever, thanks.
And don't give me crap about "go play DOA" or whatever. Those games are intentionally that way. I don't play semi-serious/semi-bananans shooter games to get my DOA-style fill. Take that crap somewhere else.Ashley might've had some revealing costume, but she had a suit of armour as well. There's ways to have fun without being completely demeaning."
"License_To_Bill said:Yes. You're right. After I finished Gears, I ate entire carton of ice cream while dabbing at my falling tears with a razor."Put yourself in a woman's shoes. Figuratively and literally. 'Cause it's sexy.If you see a muscly, shirtless man in a videogame, do you feel like he is an embarrassment to men everywhere? Do you feel like you have been directly insulted?"I feel like unrealistic expectations have been set and that people are being taught to value the wrong things. In a lot of ways, that's worse than a direct insult because it's a much more subtle but harmful thing."
"LuckyWanderDude said:Just because you don't feel that pressure doesn't mean that many girls don't feel a pressure to be "sexy" so they can get a good job. You're the one who should be wrangled because you're probably mostly made of meat anyway and you like to ignore actual things by only addressing how it affects you."License_To_Bill said:Yes. You're right. After I finished Gears, I ate entire carton of ice cream while dabbing at my falling tears with a razor. I stopped playing SFIV because my noose kept getting closer to completion.People who think they need to live up to some kind of social standard need to be wrangled and used to hot dog meat, anyway. ""Put yourself in a woman's shoes. Figuratively and literally. 'Cause it's sexy.If you see a muscly, shirtless man in a videogame, do you feel like he is an embarrassment to men everywhere? Do you feel like you have been directly insulted?"I feel like unrealistic expectations have been set and that people are being taught to value the wrong things. In a lot of ways, that's worse than a direct insult because it's a much more subtle but harmful thing."
...can you supply us with photographic evidence of this sexism in RE5?
;)
Sexist? Resident Evil? A game made by Capcom? A company located in Japan?
Nonsense. As some have already pointed out, there are already games like the DOA series, Ochenumbra, RAPELAY and more of those, including Ninja Gaiden I and II. This game is very tame when compared to the others, honestly.
"License_To_Bill said:Insulting a man you know nothing about with false assumptions is not the way to make your point, sir."LuckyWanderDude said:Just because you don't feel that pressure doesn't mean that many girls don't feel a pressure to be "sexy" so they can get a good job. You're the one who should be wrangled because you're probably mostly made of meat anyway and you like to ignore actual things by only addressing how it affects you.""License_To_Bill said:Yes. You're right. After I finished Gears, I ate entire carton of ice cream while dabbing at my falling tears with a razor. I stopped playing SFIV because my noose kept getting closer to completion.People who think they need to live up to some kind of social standard need to be wrangled and used to hot dog meat, anyway. ""Put yourself in a woman's shoes. Figuratively and literally. 'Cause it's sexy.If you see a muscly, shirtless man in a videogame, do you feel like he is an embarrassment to men everywhere? Do you feel like you have been directly insulted?"I feel like unrealistic expectations have been set and that people are being taught to value the wrong things. In a lot of ways, that's worse than a direct insult because it's a much more subtle but harmful thing."
"Sexist? Resident Evil? A game made by Capcom? A company located in Japan? Nonsense. As some have already pointed out, there are already games like the DOA series, Ochenumbra, RAPELAY and more of those, including Ninja Gaiden I and II. This game is very tame when compared to the others, honestly."That doesn't make any of it all right. Your argument is essentially that it's already so bad we shouldn't sweat any of it.
"LuckyWanderDude said:You assume that anyone who feels the need to fit a social standard of appearance is stupid. We all have different experiences. don't be a hypocrite."License_To_Bill said:Insulting a man you know nothing about with false assumptions is not the way to make your point, sir.""LuckyWanderDude said:Just because you don't feel that pressure doesn't mean that many girls don't feel a pressure to be "sexy" so they can get a good job. You're the one who should be wrangled because you're probably mostly made of meat anyway and you like to ignore actual things by only addressing how it affects you.""License_To_Bill said:Yes. You're right. After I finished Gears, I ate entire carton of ice cream while dabbing at my falling tears with a razor. I stopped playing SFIV because my noose kept getting closer to completion.People who think they need to live up to some kind of social standard need to be wrangled and used to hot dog meat, anyway. ""Put yourself in a woman's shoes. Figuratively and literally. 'Cause it's sexy.If you see a muscly, shirtless man in a videogame, do you feel like he is an embarrassment to men everywhere? Do you feel like you have been directly insulted?"I feel like unrealistic expectations have been set and that people are being taught to value the wrong things. In a lot of ways, that's worse than a direct insult because it's a much more subtle but harmful thing."
"Cheapoz said:My problem is this:I'm all for fun (like Elika's over the top outfit), but these are horridly sexist and realllllly degrading. And I don't typically get worked up about this.Why did they take such a cute character model, and make her look so cheap. Ugh. Default costume forever, thanks.
Cheapoz said:And don't give me crap about "go play DOA" or whatever. Those games are intentionally that way. I don't play semi-serious/semi-bananans shooter games to get my DOA-style fill. Take that crap somewhere else.Are you upset because of general sexism in games or because of this specific outfit? You seem to not care about sexism in DOA, so it can't possibly be general sexism.You're ok with Ashley having revealing costumes, as long as she had a non-revealing costume as well (which sheva also has and you are apparently using). So what's the problem here?"Ashley might've had some revealing costume, but she had a suit of armour as well. There's ways to have fun without being completely demeaning."
" You assume that anyone who feels the need to fit a social standard of appearance is stupid. We all have different experiences. don't be a hypocrite."I didn't call them stupid.
"DeadMonkeys said:But if you could, who would seriously give a fuck?"Cheapoz said:I'm all for fun (like Elika's over the top outfit), but these are horridly sexist and realllllly degrading. And I don't typically get worked up about this.Why did they take such a cute character model, and make her look so cheap. Ugh. Default costume forever, thanks.
Cheapoz said:And don't give me crap about "go play DOA" or whatever. Those games are intentionally that way. I don't play semi-serious/semi-bananans shooter games to get my DOA-style fill. Take that crap somewhere else.Are you upset because of general sexism in games or because of this specific outfit? You seem to not care about sexism in DOA, so it can't possibly be general sexism.You're ok with Ashley having revealing costumes, as long as she had a non-revealing costume as well (which sheva also has and you are apparently using). So what's the problem here?"Ashley might've had some revealing costume, but she had a suit of armour as well. There's ways to have fun without being completely demeaning."Also, anyone justifying this by saying OH CHRIS IS SO BUFFED SO WHATEVER, it's not like you can unlock a pair of Short Shorts for him to run around in, is it.
"LuckyWanderDude said:You said they should be wrung into hot dog meat, my mistake." You assume that anyone who feels the need to fit a social standard of appearance is stupid. We all have different experiences. don't be a hypocrite."I didn't call them stupid. "
"License_To_Bill said:That's the one. Socially inept, not stupid."LuckyWanderDude said:You said they should be wrung into hot dog meat, my mistake."" You assume that anyone who feels the need to fit a social standard of appearance is stupid. We all have different experiences. don't be a hypocrite."I didn't call them stupid. "
"LuckyWanderDude said:They may be socially inept but like I said, they have reasons to be that way. Not everyone can rise above their subjective experiences. As such, plenty of worthy people are plagued by pressures that are reinforced by a sexist entertainment industry."License_To_Bill said:That's the one. Socially inept, not stupid.""LuckyWanderDude said:You said they should be wrung into hot dog meat, my mistake."" You assume that anyone who feels the need to fit a social standard of appearance is stupid. We all have different experiences. don't be a hypocrite."I didn't call them stupid. "
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