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Borderlands 2 gives you more Borderlands. No more, no less.

There are some solid explosions in Borderlands 2, but you might not want to look at all of them.
There are some solid explosions in Borderlands 2, but you might not want to look at all of them.

Borderlands 2 feels like someone sat down and built a checklist of the first game's issues--simplistic AI, PC interface issues, bad boss battles, the lack of a trade interface--and set out to fix them. By that standard, it's certainly a better game than the original, and it backs these additions up with smart online updates, an even more expansive random loot generator, and a revamped set of character classes that make every piece of gear and every skill point you spend feel like a tough trade-off between different types of character growth. It feels very iterative in spots, and it often feels like you can see the parts where Gearbox ripped out an old system and swapped it for a more robust and balanced replacement. It also maintains its strong sense of humor, but the various characters in play throughout Borderlands 2 can be a little hit-and-miss, leading to cases where I just wanted the game to shut up and let me get back to shooting stuff and opening chests.

Borderlands 2 is set five years after the events of the first game and features an all-new cast of playable characters, who are again cast as "vault hunters" en route to Pandora to make a fortune. The cast of the first game now exist as full-on characters in the world, complete with dialogue that helps flesh them out as actual people, rather than mostly silent player characters. Most of your missions will come from Roland and the gang, though since they were barely characters in the first game, I never really got attached to any of them. The original gang serves as leaders of a resistance movement that's attempting to fight against the Hyperion Corporation, led by a smarmy prick named Handsome Jack. It seems that Jack swooped in after the events of the first game, took credit for the vault hunters' actions, and is now attempting to mine the heck out of the planet because it's crawling in priceless alien ore that, naturally, is one of the keys to awakening some ancient alien power. You, as one of the new vault hunters that's been screwed over by Handsome Jack and left for dead, quickly team up with the old crew to do their bidding, seek revenge, and collect a whole lot of loot along the way.

Though the first Borderlands certainly had more than its fair share of loot variety, the sequel really blows this aspect of the game out by bringing more and flashier effects to weapons as well as shields, class mods, grenade types, and relics. You'll find large capacity shields that lower your health, or shields that give you a deep bonus to melee damage when they're depleted, or shields that reflect damage onto melee attackers with an elemental bonus. Grenades can have elemental effects as well, along with statistics such as fuse time, radius, and overall damage. But the grenades can still be bouncing betties, transfusion grenades that leech health from your targets, and other types that appeared in the first game. Class mods and relics spread out quite a bit, too, giving you items that give you more experience points for kills, larger magazine size for weapons, or even bonuses that only work when you're firing guns from a specific manufacturer.

Though some of the characters may seem similar, the skill trees are different enough to make them all feel unique.
Though some of the characters may seem similar, the skill trees are different enough to make them all feel unique.

Gun manufacturers are one of the ways that Borderlands 2 gives method to its madness, and each weapon manufacturer specializes in a different style of weapon. Hyperion guns, for example, gain accuracy when you hold the fire button down, so instead of getting wild and all over the place like you'd expect, you actually get deadlier in longer bursts. That's weird. Jakobs tends to deal in revolvers and other Western-themed guns that have your character fanning the hammer as he or she squeezes off rounds as quickly as you can pull the trigger on your controller. Maliwan deals in weapons with elemental effects. Bandit weapons all have misspelled names and tend to have larger magazine sizes than the others. You get the idea. On top of that, it's sort of easy to get a sense for a weapon's basic style by just looking at it. Assault rifles with huge, open-ended barrels probably fire tiny rockets instead of bullets, for example. It'd be nice if there was an easy way to see a weapon actually firing without going through the process of actually equipping it, but after a dozen or so hours, you start to get a sense for which weapons fit with your play style and which weapons are just vendor trash.

I don't know how you played the original Borderlands, but at some point, my Soldier character became practically unstoppable. With the ability to regenerate ammo and health, he became almost completely self-sufficient, and armed with the proper combat rifle, it was trivial to pick him back up if he ever managed to fall. Borderlands 2's skills feel a bit more balanced, making it more difficult to simultaneously spec in every direction. And the classes that appear analogous to classes from the first game aren't, so even if you think you know how the guy who tosses out a turret will play, the Commando feels very different from the Soldier. Even though you can easily respec your character at any time, I found myself agonizing over every skill decision because none of them were perfect fits for every situation. The loot, also, forces those decisions. Equipping a shield with a high capacity but also a penalty to your health might sound like a great idea... until you encounter a crew armed with shield-draining shock weapons. The only constant is that corrosive weapons, which chew through armored targets quite well, seem way more useful here than they were in the first game, because most of the villain's forces are armored robots.

Though questing in the direction of Handsome Jack is the entirety of the main line in Borderlands 2, there are plenty of side missions to find along the way. These are the missions that take you in wild different directions as you attempt to help find a new name for one of Pandora's creatures, help out a robot that wants to be human, or decide whether you want to return lewd photos of Moxxi to Marcus or back to Moxxi herself. In this case, the periphery of the experience is more interesting and fun than its core. The main quest pits you against Handsome Jack, who comes across as a one-note villain with very little to offer beyond a thick layer of smarm that gets old after the first few hours. I kept expecting some sort of meaningful progression for the villain, but the end result is a flat character that's more annoying than anything else. It was more of a "I wish I could disable this character's dialogue" feeling than a "boy, I can't wait to shut this jerk up with my guns" situation. In contrast, the rest of the game is lush with great little touches in its dialogue. Some of the best writing in the entire game, in fact, comes when you take a little too long to take action, be it holding for a moment before freeing Claptrap from the snow to waiting for the Guardian Angel to get impatient before you insert Quest Object A into Mission Advancement Slot B. These little gags are often worth waiting for, and even though they're usually only a couple of lines, they're some of the funniest moments in a game that, with a glaring exception or two, is generally pretty funny to begin with.

Zero's decoy ability makes him way more than just a simple sniper.
Zero's decoy ability makes him way more than just a simple sniper.

But the story and characters aren't everything. Playing with other people is what Borderlands does best, and that aspect of the game has grown up quite a bit. At any time you can pause your game and bring up a network menu to make your session publicly accessible, friends only, invite only, LAN, or totally offline. You can do this on the fly, without having to quit out or anything like that. It's really nice. Once players are in your game, you can open up the all-new trade interface to pass items around without having to drop them on the ground and expose yourself to potential thievery. In general, playing with other people is pretty much painless, even on PC, which now uses Steamworks across the board instead of that GameSpy nonsense. The PC version of the game is much friendlier overall, and the in-game menus for inventory are easily manipulated with a mouse. Playing the game with a mouse and keyboard feels just fine, but you can still play the PC version with a controller just as easily. Over on consoles, you'll still get a good sense of the game's terrific art, but the frame rates get quite dodgy when then action picks up and there's still scads of texture pop-in whenever you change zones. The PS3 version of the game, sort of like its predecessor, looks a little grimy and jaggy when compared to the 360 version, but it's certainly not a crippling issue.

I obsessed over the original Borderlands in spite of its flaws. Earning loot and exploring every little corner of the world became top priority for me when that game was released, and I kept up with its DLC add-ons, doing my best to ignore their decidedly uneven quality. Borderlands 2 is a better game in most of the ways that matter, but some of that is brought down by the familiarity of the experience. Perhaps some of that is on me and spending a couple hundred hours with the first game has rendered me resilient to some of the new game's charms, but as someone who went into Borderlands 2 with a sickness that I thought only more Borderlands could cure, I'm left feeling like I didn't receive a full dose this time around.

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I was wanting to buy this on PC. I won't be for three reasons.

1. No offline co-op, couch co-op on PC - my rig is an entertainment hub and I have it sitting in my living room. I was really looking forward to playing this with my friend after work most days but now HE would have to buy it as well and play it online. Not the way I want to play Borderlands...at all.

2. Even if I were to give in and play this game online - there's no level balancing system and therefore if I happen to join my mate's game and he's Level 18 and I'm level 8...it'll be dogshit because the enemies will be challenging to the host and impossible for me. So.....no.

3. Russian key's are region locked - boooo - I wanted to buy it for £19.00 and now I can't lol

As for the 360 version...yes a lot more of my friends have a console set up and will be purchasing this...but I Can't stand in-game lag (don't look at that fire) and my subscription to xbox live has ran out...so fuck that.

Sorry 2K.

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@theliman2000 said:

Does Borderlands 2 PC still have that annoying auto-aim that crept into Borderlands? I often found it hurt my aim because I couldn't account for it much more than it helped in hitting things, and auto aim really has no place in PC anyways. It just feels cheap.

Nope, you can choose whether to have auto-aim on or completely off (it's off by default when using a mouse).

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@AhmadMetallic said:

@animathias said:

Thanks for the review, Jeff. I've been on the fence for a couple of weeks now, and this is the nail in the coffin. I should have loved the first Borderlands, but something about it just didn't sit right with me. Hearing that this is more of the same (more or less) means I shouldn't waste my time or money.

Same here.

Here too.

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@TudsGamol: Consider the following:

  • Brad and Jeff are 2 different people, with different tastes, and different likes and dislikes of games.
  • Nostalgia is a powerful thing, isn't it? I don't remember Diablo II being as great as you think it is in it's first year either.
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Does Borderlands 2 PC still have that annoying auto-aim that crept into Borderlands? I often found it hurt my aim because I couldn't account for it much more than it helped in hitting things, and auto aim really has no place in PC anyways. It just feels cheap.

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I only played enough Borderlands to finish the main quest because of the issues Jeff mentioned at the beginning of the review. Seems like all that is fixed so I'm totally down for this game

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@WhiteBrightKnight said:

@Splodge: If I remember correctly during the PC quick look of the original he said something like "I've played this game through twice on both consoles and still only played the soldier" so there's no guarantee he stuck with another class for a meaningful amount of time with this one.

I stand corrected.

Maybe he should mix it up a little then, but to each his own.. I guess...

Personally, I like the turret, but I will be going mega damage build, none of this pussy regen hide and seek nonsense.

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The tagline here about it being "more Borderlands" was pretty much the vibe I was getting. After reading the review, sounds like they did improve on some important things, but I personally don't know if that's enough for me. Like Jeff, I played a ton of the original, but...I dunno, this isn't really grabbing me at all. Maybe there will be a GOTY edition down the line, and I'll get that.

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@Splodge: If I remember correctly during the PC quick look of the original he said something like "I've played this game through twice on both consoles and still only played the soldier" so there's no guarantee he stuck with another class for a meaningful amount of time with this one.

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@CJduke said:

@TudsGamol said:

And yet, Diablo 3 somehow got a 5 from giant bomb, and actual points of criticism are made of Borderlands 2.

Fascinating how just More Of The Same only got BL2 four stars. But yet, More Of The Same With Fewer Features & No PVP & A Naked Cashgrab got five stars.

Could it be that Brad failed to properly review Diablo 3 and has shamlessly not revisited his failed critique? Could it be that Diablo 3, a game that had to be apologizied for by the CEO, will appear as even an offchance contender in GOTY discussions?

Funny. It seems like one person succeeded to carefully weigh the merits of a sequel, and another just farted out as many stars as they could because OMG BLIZZRD! OMG STARCRAFT! OMG FRUITDEALER! OMG FIVESTARS! OMG LEAH IS KOOL!

You have serious Diablo 3 issues, huh?

Anyway good review Jeff! With torchlight 2 coming out this week and Guild Wars 2 still being lots of fun I don't think I need any Borderlands.

Diablo 3 has become a pretty contentious game since the community has turned on it, while the press gave it overwhelming praise at launch and hasn't looked back. They argued about it at the PAX reviews panel with, ironically, the press defending their views because it sold well and people put a bunch of hours into it.

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Great review Jeff. Can't wait to play it tonight!

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4 stars from Jeff? flop of the year

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The very first line in the game is "So, you want to hear another story, eh?" and it froze on me after the word "hear".

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Its better than Borderlands?

Sold.

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@SomeJerk said:

@honkyjesus said:

What turned me off on buying this, and waiting for the GOTY edition in a year or so, was the way too early talk of DLC and season passes. Don't tell me all the things you left out of the game before it even releases.

Sad and true, this is what I did and did not regret doing with Borderlands 1 where I barely felt I got my moneys worth. Of course, I blame all my gamer friends being people too busy with families and jobs for being unable to get co-op going properly..

I had the added problem of it ran like hot fucking garbage on my PC (I know it was legendarily unoptimized, but it's still baffling that something like Sleeping Dogs or Deus Ex runs perfectly and looks gorgeous, but I could barely get Borderlands to run at 20fps on medium settings when I tried playing it eight months ago or so), but I mostly feel the same about both games as you guys. I've played a lot of loot-driven multiplayer games solo and managed to have fun with them--I cannot begin to count how many hours I put into Phantasy Star Online over the five years and multiple versions--but something about Borderlands never clicked with me. It was one of those games where I loved everything surrounding it but playing it was just a slog, and the performance issues and terrible netcode shot any chance of me wanting to deal with it.

I was hoping Borderlands 2 would be different but it just sounds like the same game but it won't make my laptop want to die this time. Great to hear it's good for people who like that, but that's not a $60 to me, and especially not with that Season Pass scheme they were running. You have to preorder or pay extra for a fifth character they announced practically a year ago? Look guys I get it, DLC isn't done at the same time as the rest of the game, but if you're going to be announcing and showing off art for your fifth character you intend to hide behind a paywall that early on, why don't you just put it in the fucking game in the first place instead of being so cheap?

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@Stubee said:

"Borderlands 2 is a better game in most of the ways that matter, but some of that is brought down by the familiarity of the experience."

Perhaps if you didn't play the same class again Jeff.....

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I haven't played the first Borderlands, but right now I want to get into this game. Should I play the original one first? Is it more like Mass Effect (obligatory to play the whole trilogy to get the best experience) or more like Elder Scrolls (each game is a different experience with a different story)?

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As someone who has Borderlands, but only played a very small amount despite desperately wanting to play more, I am super excited for this.

The idea that it is "just more Borderlands" doesn't faze me i the slightest.

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@animathias said:

Thanks for the review, Jeff. I've been on the fence for a couple of weeks now, and this is the nail in the coffin. I should have loved the first Borderlands, but something about it just didn't sit right with me. Hearing that this is more of the same (more or less) means I shouldn't waste my time or money.

Same here.

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Great review. As a fan of both Giant Bomb and Hey Ash Watcha Playin', I would love to see what Anthony Burch thinks of you criticism to Handsome Jack.

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Sounds like its exactly the game I was expecting.

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@Stubee said:

"Borderlands 2 is a better game in most of the ways that matter, but some of that is brought down by the familiarity of the experience."

Perhaps if you didn't play the same class again Jeff.....

He is playing on PC, ps3 and Xbox. I am pretty sure he has tried different classes on each.....

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Why must I work today?

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@White: christ that comment is packed with references, well done

that being said, i'm super excited for PSN to fucking update so i can finally play. i'm glad jeff didn't go full-on BEST GAME OF THE GENERATION like everyone else on the internet, a more measured review is much more fun to read

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Hurry up already, Amazon! Daddy needs his fix!

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It sounds like they made another great Borderlands game. I look forward to playing it.

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I'm still going to play it, more Borderlands is fine with me. I didn't expect it to be anything else other than more Borderlands anyway.

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From the 9 hours I played so far (level 12), I definitely think more borderlands is not enough. Sure, more enemy variety and locals is a big plus, and the new ui is fantastic, but the quest structure is still super linear, and repetitive. Speaking from a guy that finished the first one a month ago, and perhaps that is the case, but mission design is still a big problem.

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Man reading through review comments is always the worst.

At this point I kinda feel like Giantbomb shouldn't even do reviews. I mean, their Quicklooks and the Bombcast help to form a much better view anyways and... they crew WILL get shit on for a review no matter what. Of course applying a score to a game is always a pretty shitty step. Because it's not possible to apply a 'right value' to a game, how could anyone possibly be perfectly fine with it?

And then there are so goddamn many people that go ape shit if someone just disagrees with their view slightly - argh just fuck it.

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@djames216 said:

@Vinny_Says said:

This review is pretty much on the ball, if not a tad too on the nose. Your reviews are getting a little to formulaic and easy to predict Jeff, maybe it's time someone else gave a big game release the old review treatment, just saying.

Why would you prefer an unpredictable review? The whole point behind Jeff's style is that he puts himself out there so you know the kind of stuff he likes and you can better understand (but not necessarily agree with) his reviews. And at the end of the day, he makes an assessment on whether you should buy the game and that's it.

Yeah, this only seems like a positive thing. Reviews are supposed to be more informative and less entertainment, and being able to know Jeff's personality vs mine makes it easy to extrapolate how I'll likely feel about the game.

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@TudsGamol said:

And yet, Diablo 3 somehow got a 5 from giant bomb, and actual points of criticism are made of Borderlands 2.

Fascinating how just More Of The Same only got BL2 four stars. But yet, More Of The Same With Fewer Features & No PVP & A Naked Cashgrab got five stars.

Could it be that Brad failed to properly review Diablo 3 and has shamlessly not revisited his failed critique? Could it be that Diablo 3, a game that had to be apologizied for by the CEO, will appear as even an offchance contender in GOTY discussions?

Funny. It seems like one person succeeded to carefully weigh the merits of a sequel, and another just farted out as many stars as they could because OMG BLIZZRD! OMG STARCRAFT! OMG FRUITDEALER! OMG FIVESTARS! OMG LEAH IS KOOL!

I love people that fully embrace internet culture. Fanboys are a great source of amusement and I hope they never go away.
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Did Zero just stabbed that guy in the genital triangle?

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@Vinny_Says said:

This review is pretty much on the ball, if not a tad too on the nose. Your reviews are getting a little to formulaic and easy to predict Jeff, maybe it's time someone else gave a big game release the old review treatment, just saying.

Why would you prefer an unpredictable review? The whole point behind Jeff's style is that he puts himself out there so you know the kind of stuff he likes and you can better understand (but not necessarily agree with) his reviews. And at the end of the day, he makes an assessment on whether you should buy the game and that's it.

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I only played through Borderlands once so I'm not too burned out on it. I'm ready to devote a shitload of time to this game.

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I kinda predicted that Jeff would not be as satisfied with BL2 as he was with the first one - honestly it's not too surprising when he put so many hours into the original and without having played it you can tell Borderlands 2 does not really stray from the formula that much.

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That last line in the review. That was deep, Yosuke Jeff.

Anyway, a bit bummed Borderlands 2 doesn't try to go beyond what Borderlands already did. Fixed issues are nice, but if it feels like it could be something more, it's a shame. That said, I'll definitely play it after I finish the DLC for the 1st one.

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"Borderlands 2 is a better game in most of the ways that matter, but some of that is brought down by the familiarity of the experience."

Perhaps if you didn't play the same class again Jeff.....

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@CJduke said:

@TudsGamol said:

And yet, Diablo 3 somehow got a 5 from giant bomb, and actual points of criticism are made of Borderlands 2.

Fascinating how just More Of The Same only got BL2 four stars. But yet, More Of The Same With Fewer Features & No PVP & A Naked Cashgrab got five stars.

Could it be that Brad failed to properly review Diablo 3 and has shamlessly not revisited his failed critique? Could it be that Diablo 3, a game that had to be apologizied for by the CEO, will appear as even an offchance contender in GOTY discussions?

Funny. It seems like one person succeeded to carefully weigh the merits of a sequel, and another just farted out as many stars as they could because OMG BLIZZRD! OMG STARCRAFT! OMG FRUITDEALER! OMG FIVESTARS! OMG LEAH IS KOOL!

You have serious Diablo 3 issues, huh?

Anyway good review Jeff! With torchlight 2 coming out this week and Guild Wars 2 still being lots of fun I don't think I need any Borderlands.

Probably just Brad issues. Diablo 3 is... fine. But 5 stars? Come on now.

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I'm glad this game exists, and it's great that they fixed the issues with the first one. But of course, any game you invest 100+ hours into will always be better that its similar sequel, no matter how improved it is.

This review is pretty much on the ball, if not a tad too on the nose. Your reviews are getting a little to formulaic and easy to predict Jeff, maybe it's time someone else gave a big game release the old review treatment, just saying.

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@TudsGamol said:

And yet, Diablo 3 somehow got a 5 from giant bomb, and actual points of criticism are made of Borderlands 2.

Fascinating how just More Of The Same only got BL2 four stars. But yet, More Of The Same With Fewer Features & No PVP & A Naked Cashgrab got five stars.

Could it be that Brad failed to properly review Diablo 3 and has shamlessly not revisited his failed critique? Could it be that Diablo 3, a game that had to be apologizied for by the CEO, will appear as even an offchance contender in GOTY discussions?

Funny. It seems like one person succeeded to carefully weigh the merits of a sequel, and another just farted out as many stars as they could because OMG BLIZZRD! OMG STARCRAFT! OMG FRUITDEALER! OMG FIVESTARS! OMG LEAH IS KOOL!

You have serious Diablo 3 issues, huh?

Anyway good review Jeff! With torchlight 2 coming out this week and Guild Wars 2 still being lots of fun I don't think I need any Borderlands.

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Wow, Giant Bomb review comments are only slightly less terrible than YouTube comments.

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Well Borderlands was a 5 star game for me so if Borderlands 2 is just a refined version of the original then that's all I need.

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So far I'm getting a much better Borderlands experience. The shooting and running both seem much more fluid, and the graphics are much nicer on PC.

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@ApolloBob said:

I've been playing a lot of the first Borderlands to get ready for the sequel (and to knock out the last two DLCs I hadn't finished). It occurred to me watching the trailers that maybe this wasn't a great idea, because it did seem to be "more of the same" - as if someone magically doubled the content of the first game. I'm sure I'll enjoy it regardless, but I can totally see how the number of hours spent in the first game and/or how much time has passed since you played it could affect your response to the sequel.

I also suspect that Jeff is a little bummed that he can't make the same "This is the only class anyone should play" pronouncement as last time.

People said it was a bad idea to buy the first Borderlands and play all of the DLC (not Moxxi) so close to the release of the game and yet I did that and almost have all the achievements. The difference is that I did it mostly solo because I didn't want lv 69 people getting into my game and one shotting everything. However, when I got a full game with people in my level range it was pretty damn fun. I'm really looking forward to playing the game with people.

Also, Jeff is crazy about the soldier class. I played as a Siren and never really felt overwhelmed since my phase ability healed a good chunk of my health every 15 seconds or so and I rarely felt the need to use it so often.

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Sequel is knocked for being a sequel? :/ Otherwise it's pretty much sounding fantastic? Guess you can't help feeling underwhelmed if that's what you felt, just seems like a bit of an odd review.

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@OneManX said:

Reading some people's expectations... like, what did you think was gonna happen? Like it looks like they made a cleaner, nicer and a more well thought out Borderlands? Like, I think that speaks on how good that first game was, they got most of those things right and there wasn't much to change gameplay wise.

I am perfectly fine with more Borderlands, as it's not another Battlefield of Call of Duty or MOH.

I didn't want a sequel that iterated and improved upon the flaws of the previous game, I wanted an all-new experience that still kept the characters, storyline, and gameplay of the last game, because SO HELP ME GOD if they change this, they are nothing but sell-outs dumbing down their product for the LOWEST COMMON DENOMINATOR!

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Good stuff can't wait to get my copy today.

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Great review Jeff! I'm extremely anticipated for this game, and seeing your initial thoughts throughout this review about how the game is more of the first and improved in every aspect of the first has fueled my lust for it even more. Aside from your personal opinion and conclusion in this review, I just can not wait for friday - and see for myself! ( I'm in europe :( )

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@honkyjesus said:

What turned me off on buying this, and waiting for the GOTY edition in a year or so, was the way too early talk of DLC and season passes. Don't tell me all the things you left out of the game before it even releases.

 Sad and true, this is what I did and did not regret doing with Borderlands 1 where I barely felt I got my moneys worth.
 
Of course, I blame all my gamer friends being people too busy with families and jobs for being unable to get co-op going properly..
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I really appreciate that this review isn't just a "Fuck yeah, more Borderlands!" type review and it weighs everything out in a fair, yet critical manner. I just wasn't getting this from any other reviews that I looked at. Thanks a lot!