What is Sega's most neglected IP?

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Poll: What is Sega's most neglected IP? (336 votes)

Sonic 10%
Streets of Rage 5%
Shinobi 2%
Altered Beast 1%
Gunstar Heroes 2%
Nights 1%
Golden Axe 0%
Ecco 3%
Toejam & Earl 2%
Virtua Fighter 0%
Greendog: The Beached Surfer Dude! 1%
OutRun 1%
Kid Chameleon 1%
Alex Kidd 3%
Gain Ground 0%
Yakuza 4%
Shenmue 9%
Shining Force 4%
Phantasy Star 4%
Seaman 2%
Wonderboy 0%
Space Channel 5 1%
Total War 1%
Crazy Taxi 0%
Jet Set Radio 5%
Super Monkey Ball 1%
Feel the Magic 0%
Rhythm Thief 0%
Skies of Arcadia 6%
Space Harrier 0%
Zaxxon 0%
Fantasy Zone 0%
Puyo-Puyo 0%
Kenseiden 0%
Clockwork Knight 0%
Panzer Dragoon 4%
Sakura Wars 0%
Valkyria Chronicles 4%
Samba de Amigo 0%
Binary Domain 3%
Vanquish 5%
Beyond Oasis 0%
Columns 0%
Mad World 0%
Chu Chu Rocket 1%
Eternal Champions 0%
Congo Bongo 1%
Otogi 1%
Vectorman 1%
Ristar 1%
Resonance of Fate 1%
Bonanza Bros 1%
Actually missed something... 6%

To be more specific, which of these isn't being handled properly/ with enough respect by Sega? Which one do you really care about the most?

I personally think Greendog: The Beached Surfer Dude! should have at least been on a hundred different Genesis collections. I was going to add Matt Rorie's Alpha Protocol but apparently Sega WILL NOT publish any sequels.

Also ignoring licensed stuff like Aliens. None of the Atlus stuff.

#1 Posted by ThePhantomnaut (6283 posts) -

I really want to see another Vanquish. Would look amazing this gen.

#2 Edited by Corevi (6793 posts) -

Every Clover/Platinum original IP is being misused with the exception of Bayonetta. You missed Infinite Space.

Honorable Mention goes to Yakuza because still no localization of anything after Dead Souls. No Yakuza 5 and none of the spinoffs.

#3 Posted by Sparky_Buzzsaw (7030 posts) -

A Panzer Dragoon RPG in this day and age would be amazing. Realistically, I hope more Yakuza games come West. Those are better Shenmue games than Shenmue actually was, and I played the hell out of Shenmue.

#4 Posted by BabyChooChoo (5406 posts) -

Everything that isn't Sonic. Seriously, you could probably make a compelling case for most of their IPs.

Also, you forgot Burning Rangers so I'll just go with that for the hell of it.

#5 Posted by Corevi (6793 posts) -

@babychoochoo: Even Sonic is being misused, they had a fantastic engine for making 2D and 3D Sonic games and they threw it in the trash in favour of a bad co-op game.

#6 Edited by AdequatelyPrepared (1053 posts) -

Surprised we haven't seen a second sequel to their kart racer yet, it was surprisingly good, and was the closest Sega came to acknowledging the existence of most of this.

#7 Posted by AlexanderSheen (5150 posts) -

Every one of those except Sonic, Yakuza and Total War.

#8 Posted by HaniBall (361 posts) -

Vaklyria Chronicles. I know there were sequels on the PSP and I know one of them even made its way west. But where is a follow up home console release. It's been like ... 6years? That's a game I would buy a PS4 for.

#9 Posted by GunstarRed (5884 posts) -

Burning Rangers.

#10 Posted by GStats (55 posts) -

I see plenty of people went for the comical 'Sonic' answer. Oh good times.

#11 Posted by Petiew (1384 posts) -

Yakuza isn't the most neglected, but it's the one I'm most buttmad about. Just localise 5 already Sega!

#12 Edited by fisk0 (5313 posts) -

How about Universe at War? They took that off Steam and all the other digital stores, and never bothered to rid it of GFWL. :(

It was an RTS by Petroglyph - the remains of Westwood, with music by Frank Klepacki, who did the music for the Command & Conquer and Red Alert games.

#13 Posted by Levius (1324 posts) -

I refuse to choose between Binary Domain and Vanquish.

#14 Edited by doomocrat (148 posts) -

It's a shame we only got one Jambo Safari.

#15 Edited by Corevi (6793 posts) -

@amatureidiot: Vanquish was a better game and you know it. Binary Domain had a slightly more interesting story though.

#16 Edited by GunstarRed (5884 posts) -

I have no idea how anyone is saying Panzer Dragoon, there is five entries in its series, that's more than tons of games get, not to mention a spiritual successor in Crimson Dragon. Also, Shinobi had a game only a handful of years ago that was actually alright, but nobody played it. They even rereleased Revenge in an updated form recently and a cool 3D version of Shinobi 3 on the 3DS.

#17 Posted by mosespippy (4746 posts) -

I went with Valkyria Chronicles. I would have said something like Skies of Arcadia, Burning Rangers or Shenmue but those all got characters or stages in the Sega kart racing games. Valkyria Chronicles, a game with beloved characters and iconic vehicles, isn't in their kart racing game. My hope is that Atlus decides to revive the IP, since Sega did say they could use whatever unused IPs they wanted.

#18 Posted by Video_Game_King (36566 posts) -

Rent a Hero.

#19 Posted by Icicle7x3 (1247 posts) -
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#20 Edited by MichiganJack (167 posts) -

I voted for Oasis - Legend of and Beyond were both incredible games, but really Sega's most neglected IP in my opinion would have to be Phantasy Star. A proper traditional Phantasy Star, not the horrible Online series. Although to be completely honest I have little faith that Sega can actually release a good game anymore, and they don't seem all that concerned about it either.

...Ok I just seen Greendog: The Beached Surfer Dude! on that list. Wow, talk about a game I haven't even thought of in a very long time! I played the hell out of that game. There was something special about that game. Oh, the music...the music was great! Thank you for this rush of nostalgia.

Chakan: The Forever Man was also one of those great old Genesis game that wasn't all that great.

#21 Posted by BeachThunder (13306 posts) -

Gimme a new Ecco!

#22 Posted by Spoonman671 (5136 posts) -

Valkyria Chronicles has been grossly mishandled, but Kid Chameleon is my favorite Genesis game and it has been completely ignored. I would slaughter a litter of puppies for a new 2D Kid Chameleon.

#23 Posted by Cyrus_Saren (553 posts) -

I can think of three: Skies of Arcadia, Valkyria Chronicles and Shenmue. I cast my vote for Skies of Arcadia though.

Of course, if they were to make a Skies of Arcadia now, I can totally see them screwing it up.

#24 Posted by JasonR86 (10030 posts) -

Skies of Arcadia. That game was an absolute delight to play through and it could be grown to such a bigger thing now with the new systems. But I'm not sure I'd want Sega to develop it.

#25 Posted by 71Ranchero (3215 posts) -

The correct answer is just about every franchise from 32-bit and earlier. All those arcade games that Sega continued to make well after consumers stopped buying arcade games. You know, the games that sunk the company. I want all those games to come back.

#26 Posted by T_wester (635 posts) -

I only know a fraction of these IP's so I guess almost all the options.

Also if a poll require scrolling then it have to many options.

#27 Posted by Mousse_gallon (272 posts) -

Valkyria Chronicles and Sakura Wars

#28 Edited by Fredchuckdave (7459 posts) -


#29 Posted by Evilsbane (5149 posts) -

As long as it isn't more Sonic. Spoilers it will probably be more Sonic.

#30 Edited by Fredchuckdave (7459 posts) -

Not enough poll options. Its definitely not Sonic, they make a ton of those games even if most of them suck.

#31 Edited by ShaggE (7240 posts) -

I'm going to say "Matt Rorie Presents: Alpha Protocol: A Matt Rorie Interactive Experience: Based On The Novel 'The Alpha Protocol' By Matt 'Alpha Protocol' Rorie" counts for the very reason you say it doesn't.

#32 Edited by Chaser324 (7188 posts) -

You could make a case for just about any of those aside from Sonic. I'd probably also add most of their other racing game properties: Hang-On, Sega Rally, Daytona, etc.

Since I had to pick one though, I voted for Streets of Rage. For such a revered and well known Genesis franchise, it's hard to believe that Sega hasn't done something new under that name.

#33 Posted by Vod_Crack (804 posts) -

Given how hot heist games are at the minute, a new Bonanza Bros. would be great!

#34 Edited by Zlimness (604 posts) -

A tougher question would be: Which Sega IP hasn't been neglected.

#35 Posted by mikeeegeee (1625 posts) -

Somehow I am not the only person who voted for Seaman. There are trolls among us....

#36 Edited by MonkeyKing1969 (3805 posts) -

They need to do something with Shenmue....something. The biggest issue with Shemue is nobody really cares about Ryu Hazuki, because he was a bit of a jerk. The prophecy, the jade stone, and Lan Di himself are a bit dopy. And, Shenmue itself is a damn tree in China.

So, how do you make a game with that much baggage when what people want is an open world game where 'literally' everyone on the street has a huge story, is interactive and is important. That why I say, they RE-BOOT. But they don't wipe away the story, they move it by saying Ryu failed, he never found Lan Di. The game opens in 2062 Ryu's grand daughter, she is a rebellious teenager too, but her rebellion is being more traditional than her 94 year old father who was more western and become even more so later in life. Long story short Ryu regrets failing, as he is on his death bed a letter from a trusted source that says Lan Di has died at age 121. Ryu than explain to his daughter the story, his failure, and introduces some thread that is left unfinished for the grand daughter to latch on to as the adventure.

Because the game happens in 2062 it is futuristic. What is traditionalism and what is modern in that era??? What is Japan like and what is China like in 2062? I think by using the grand daughter you an wipe away some of the weirdness of the old games, simplify the story to make WHAT THE HELL is going on more clear.

#37 Posted by MannyMAR (596 posts) -

I'd say I want to see another Vanquish, but in reality I just want SEGA to bring more Yakuza over to the west.

#38 Posted by ArbitraryWater (12896 posts) -

I'd say Valkyria chronicles, because I actually care about those games, but it got two sequels despite selling like 5 copies in the west. Am I resentful that VC3 will never come over here? Yes. Probably less resentful than the Yakuza fans out there though.

The correct answer is: everything Sega hasn't done stuff with since the dreamcast era.

#39 Edited by GTCknight (725 posts) -

I choose Vanquish.

Replayed the game recently (finished it again a few hours ago) and felt slightly depressed that there was never a sequel. I'm now even more thankful for their weird and cool little end-game credits game, since it cheered me up.

#40 Posted by darkvare (818 posts) -

my answer is anything but sonic lol

#41 Posted by thevector (75 posts) -

football manager

#42 Posted by Cerberus3Dog (545 posts) -

I just want Yakuza in the west. Pains me a great deal that Sega doesn't think they can make it profitable over here.

#43 Posted by hunterob (170 posts) -

You could make a case for just about any of those aside from Sonic. I'd probably also add most of their other racing game properties as well: Hang-On, Sega Rally, Daytona, etc.

Since I had to pick on though, I voted for Streets of Rage. For such a revered and well known Genesis franchise, it's hard to believe that Sega hasn't done something new under that name.

Yeah I almost added all their classic, arcade racing games but Outrun seems to be the most fondly remembered. Probably should have added Hang-On.

I voted for Streets of Rage myself. Streets of Rage 2 has aged better than any other beat-em up from that era, and you can't talk about beat-em ups without mentioning it. They'd have to modernize it somehow but... it's gotta be worth it. At least to update that goddamn incredible Yuzo Koshiro soundtrack.

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Also, you forgot Burning Rangers so I'll just go with that for the hell of it.

Shit. I only know it from that Transformed stage. Not too familiar with Saturn stuff.

They need to do something with Shenmue....something.

A proper re-release would be nice! If they can do it for Sonic Adventure 2 and Sega Bass Fishing, c'mon.

Probably could have pulled from a more comprehensive list, I'm mostly biased towards the Genesis era. I'm definitely missing a lot of ones they've published within the last decade, but look at it this way: at least they released a game in that series within this last decade.

#44 Posted by Veektarius (5424 posts) -

There is room in the world for more Shining Force.

#45 Posted by BisonHero (8564 posts) -

As everyone is pointing out, their most neglected IP is literally everything that isn't Sonic and sorta Yakuza.

On the other hand, they barely have any competent 1st/2nd party dev teams left, so it's not like I expect much of anything out of Sega aside from pushing out Sonic games every year so the company stays afloat.

#46 Posted by Corvak (1312 posts) -

@bisonhero: Actually, the company is pretty strong, but none of that strength comes from video games. Like Square-Enix, SEGA has a big presence in the collectible figure market.

#47 Posted by Shindig (1381 posts) -

I'm not sure if Sonic counts as neglect. He just doesn't transition consistently to 3D very well. And 2D Sonic's peaked back when I had hopes and dreams.

#48 Posted by BisonHero (8564 posts) -

@corvak said:

@bisonhero: Actually, the company is pretty strong, but none of that strength comes from video games. Like Square-Enix, SEGA has a big presence in the collectible figure market.

Alright, "keep the company afloat" is inaccurate. Let me rephrase: "It's not like I expect much of anything out of Sega aside from pushing out Sonic games every year so they can justify the continued existence of their video game division."

I guess they also own Total War, and whatever other American/European devs they've acquired, and those studios are alright, but my point is, I don't think of internal Sega as this shining star of video game development, so I wouldn't be all that jazzed if they suddenly brought back Skies of Arcadia or Panzer Dragoon or whatever. Sadly, it's not the Dreamcast days anymore, and I think modern Sega would fuck up any attempted revival of those types of games. The magic is gone.

I'm all for them experimenting with weird stuff, though. Which usually just means publishing someone else's crazy idea, like Vanquish.

#49 Edited by ajamafalous (12514 posts) -

I would say Sonic, even though it maybe doesn't fit 'neglected,' it does fit 'misused.' I'd love a good new Sonic game, but man, they just seem completely incapable of delivering one.

#50 Posted by Levius (1324 posts) -

@corruptedevil: It hurts me to say it, but yeah I know Vanquish was better. I still think more games should have the moxie that Binary Domain had in its story.

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