Why does Shadow have a gun?

#1 Posted by Joeyoe31 (820 posts) -

This is a legitimate question that has been bothering me for years. Why DID Shadow the Hedgehog receive a gun in Shadow the Hedgehog. At first I thought that "Well they're probably aiming for a darker and edger audience" but then I came to the realization that that's really fucking dumb so what's the REAL answer to this mystery.

#2 Posted by Hailinel (25200 posts) -

You had it right the first time. They wanted Shadow the Hedgehog to be a dark, edgy game.

Well, as dark and edgy as a game featuring Sonic the Hedgehog characters can be.

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#3 Posted by TooWalrus (13254 posts) -

I'm pretty sure... Shadow the Hedgehog was just really fucking dumb.

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#4 Posted by NegativeCero (3024 posts) -

Because he has attitude?

#5 Posted by Video_Game_King (36272 posts) -

@Joeyoe31 said:

At first I thought that "Well they're probably aiming for a darker and edger audience" but then I came to the realization that that's really fucking dumb so what's the REAL answer to this mystery.

That Sega is really fucking dumb?

#6 Edited by believer258 (12071 posts) -

@TooWalrus said:

I'm pretty sure... Shadow the Hedgehog was just really fucking dumb.

No, no.

Shadow the Hedgehog was really, really, really, really

REALLY FUCKING DUMB.

At the time, games were starting to lean toward the "darkier and edgier" thing and Sega or Sonic Team or whoever the hell made it thought it would be a good idea to try and capitalize on that, which is a laughable notion to an insane degree. So out came Shadow the Hedgehog, a game about an anti-hero, dark and mysterious... hedgehog. Who tries to fight off a weird alien invasion with a gun, heavy metal, and saying tame curse words over and over again.

EDIT: You know what I just realized? Some of the plot points in Sonic Adventure 2, a far better game in every respect, come across as darker than anything in Shadow. That girl's death, for instance, I remember that being more impactful than anything in Shadow.

#7 Posted by Dynamitekyle (550 posts) -

So dark

So edgy

So Shadow

#8 Posted by CrossTheAtlantic (1146 posts) -

@believer258 said:

@TooWalrus said:

I'm pretty sure... Shadow the Hedgehog was just really fucking dumb.

No, no.

Shadow the Hedgehog was really, really, really, really

REALLY FUCKING DUMB.

At the time, games were starting to lean toward the "darkier and edgier" thing and Sega or Sonic Team or whoever the hell made it thought it would be a good idea to try and capitalize on that, which is a laughable notion to an insane degree. So out came Shadow the Hedgehog, a game about an anti-hero, dark and mysterious... hedgehog. Who tries to fight off a weird alien invasion with a gun, heavy metal, and saying tame curse words over and over again.

Does he ever say, "FUCKIN RADICAL!"? Because, in my mind, he does that. A lot.

#9 Posted by UnsolvedParadox (1865 posts) -

Because he's X-TREME!

#10 Posted by ArbitraryWater (11989 posts) -

Having played and beaten Shadow the Hedgehog with the true ending (I was like 12 and should've known better regardless but hey it was just a rental) I can confirm that the answer is: "Because the game is really fucking stupid". No. That's it. That's all there is to it.

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#11 Posted by egg (1469 posts) -

People are blowing out of proportion how dumb Shadow is. 1) They use the same swear words in Jak games too. 2) Shadow doesn't even swear that much, only one in or two scenes and when you lose. 3) Many of the guns used in the game are things like rockets, lasers, and alien weaponry, things no different from Ratchet and, again, Jak. 4) Both Ratchet and Jak are tried to pass off as edgy and having "attitude" yet apparently it's not ok when Shadow does this. Clearly a double standard.

#12 Edited by urban_ryoga (84 posts) -

@egg: wasn't that only Jax 2 (I'm certain that the first game didn't suffer from this)? That game was around the same stupid era that Shadow the Hedgehog came out of.

Ratchet and Clank was pretty consistent in the ps2 generation. Not that it wasn't without its immaturity, but it was like that from the get go. It certainly wasn't stupid dark.

#13 Posted by egg (1469 posts) -

@urban_ryoga said:

@egg: wasn't that only Jax 2 (I'm certain that the first game didn't suffer from this)? That game was around the same stupid era that Shadow the Hedgehog came out of.

yeah I was mainly referring to Jak 2

#14 Posted by InfiniteGeass (2057 posts) -

Honestly I think Shadow is cooler looking than Sonic.

#15 Posted by FateOfNever (1855 posts) -

Because Shadow is STREET, dawg!

#16 Posted by Pink_o_mat (206 posts) -

Because he is "urban" and has "street cred".

#17 Posted by Ravenlight (8040 posts) -

Capcom motherfuckers probably would have named him Batman the Hedgehog were it not for copyrights and such.

#18 Edited by Joeyoe31 (820 posts) -

@egg said:

People are blowing out of proportion how dumb Shadow is. 1) They use the same swear words in Jak games too. 2) Shadow doesn't even swear that much, only one in or two scenes and when you lose. 3) Many of the guns used in the game are things like rockets, lasers, and alien weaponry, things no different from Ratchet and, again, Jak. 4) Both Ratchet and Jak are tried to pass off as edgy and having "attitude" yet apparently it's not ok when Shadow does this. Clearly a double standard.

But the Rachet and Clank series and Jak series, 2 specifically, we're good games consistently across the board.

#19 Posted by Lunar_Aura (2778 posts) -

Because he's a black hedgehog and Japanese developers are racist sometimes

#20 Posted by Hailinel (25200 posts) -

@egg said:

People are blowing out of proportion how dumb Shadow is. 1) They use the same swear words in Jak games too. 2) Shadow doesn't even swear that much, only one in or two scenes and when you lose. 3) Many of the guns used in the game are things like rockets, lasers, and alien weaponry, things no different from Ratchet and, again, Jak. 4) Both Ratchet and Jak are tried to pass off as edgy and having "attitude" yet apparently it's not ok when Shadow does this. Clearly a double standard.

To be fair, the attitude that they inserted into the Jak & Daxter series in Jak II felt painfully forced, so it's not like comparing Shadow to Jak lets either off of the hook.

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#21 Posted by buzz_clik (7011 posts) -

Blast processing...?

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#22 Edited by egg (1469 posts) -

@Joeyoe31 said:

@egg said:

People are blowing out of proportion how dumb Shadow is. 1) They use the same swear words in Jak games too. 2) Shadow doesn't even swear that much, only one in or two scenes and when you lose. 3) Many of the guns used in the game are things like rockets, lasers, and alien weaponry, things no different from Ratchet and, again, Jak. 4) Both Ratchet and Jak are tried to pass off as edgy and having "attitude" yet apparently it's not ok when Shadow does this. Clearly a double standard.

But the Rachet and Clank series and Jak series, 2 specifically, we're good games consistently across the board.

Whether the game is good is irrelevant. I mentioned things like, how often Shadow swears, and the fact that despite his swearing the game is E10. (so it depends on whether you consider it swearing) Because both those things relate to what is being discussed, whereas whether the game is good does not. That said, you're still wrong, Jak 2 is terrible.

#23 Posted by Joeyoe31 (820 posts) -

@egg said:

@Joeyoe31 said:

@egg said:

People are blowing out of proportion how dumb Shadow is. 1) They use the same swear words in Jak games too. 2) Shadow doesn't even swear that much, only one in or two scenes and when you lose. 3) Many of the guns used in the game are things like rockets, lasers, and alien weaponry, things no different from Ratchet and, again, Jak. 4) Both Ratchet and Jak are tried to pass off as edgy and having "attitude" yet apparently it's not ok when Shadow does this. Clearly a double standard.

But the Rachet and Clank series and Jak series, 2 specifically, we're good games consistently across the board.

Whether the game is good is irrelevant. I mentioned things like, how often Shadow swears, and the fact that despite his swearing the game is E10. (so it depends on whether you consider it swearing) That said, you're still wrong, Jak 2 is terrible.

Well than technically your entire post is irrelevant because the question was "Why does Shadow have a gun?" Also opinions.

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