First Look at SMT IV included with Soul Hackers 3DS

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#1 Posted by Eirikr (1083 posts) -

According to the latest Famitsu, a preview trailer for Shin Megami Tensei IV is going to be bundled in Soul Hackers 3DS when that game releases on August 30. (Now I'm even more excited I just preordered that yesterday!)

So, it's probably going to be a bit before we get new info, and even longer until the game sees release. My breath is bated.

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#2 Posted by Hailinel (25787 posts) -

Awesome. It's been twenty-five years since the franchise got its start, hasn't it? I have to imagine that Atlus must have something special up their sleeves.

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#3 Posted by Eirikr (1083 posts) -

@Hailinel: It's allegedly an internal project at Atlus, by the same team that made the Maniacs edition of Nocturne and both Raidou games, rather than outsourced like Strange Journey. So yeah, this is going to be a big deal.

So this also probably means their main team is still working on P5. SO DON'T WORRY GUYS

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#4 Posted by Soren (304 posts) -

Hopefully they'll leak some details in the meantime. A solid date only furthers my anxiety!

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#5 Posted by Bocam (4099 posts) -

Guess I need to import Soul Hackers.

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#6 Posted by Irvandus (3170 posts) -

I don't want a 3DS stop it Atlus, don't make me!

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#7 Posted by Hailinel (25787 posts) -

@Bocam said:

Guess I need to import Soul Hackers.

I'm guessing that Atlus USA will localize it. There's no reason why they wouldn't. The only reason that the original Devil Summoner's PSP remake wasn't was because Sony blocked it. (Seriously, Sony, I thought you were past that.)

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#8 Posted by Bocam (4099 posts) -

@Hailinel: Though Persona EP seems to be going the same way

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#9 Posted by Video_Game_King (36564 posts) -

Wait, this is coming out on my birthday? TOO SOON, ATLUS. I'm still not that good at Japanese, and it takes a while to understand how something like まま works.

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#10 Posted by Bocam (4099 posts) -

@Video_Game_King: ママとパパ

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#11 Posted by Video_Game_King (36564 posts) -

@Bocam:

Not that まま. Why do you think I used hiragana? (On that note, though, I have an idea of how まま works. I just picked that because I couldn't remember any specific grammar points that kick my ass (even though they're certainly out there) and まま is difficult to translate.)

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#12 Posted by Bocam (4099 posts) -

@Video_Game_King: You can also use まま as ママ. Though just as a pun. Steins;gate has some weird humor.

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#13 Posted by Video_Game_King (36564 posts) -

@Bocam:

Are we talking about in writing or just being lame?

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#14 Posted by Bocam (4099 posts) -

@Video_Game_King: In writing, I've been playing/reading the PS3 version

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#15 Posted by Eirikr (1083 posts) -

Glad to see you guys are stoked by this news. And no, VKG, Soul Hackers comes out on August 30th. So if you want a special birthday present, you'd better get importin'.

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#16 Posted by nick_verissimo (1445 posts) -

Has anyone taken a look at the teaser website? Click here if you already haven't. I'm mostly bringing this up because I understand absolutely no Japanese and want to know what those two lines of text surrounding the IV mean. Even if it's a total let down and says "IT'S COMING", I'd still like to know. Help me internet!

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#17 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19836 posts) -

@nick_verissimo said:

Has anyone taken a look at the teaser website? Click here if you already haven't. I'm mostly bringing this up because I understand absolutely no Japanese and want to know what those two lines of text surrounding the IV mean. Even if it's a total let down and says "IT'S COMING", I'd still like to know. Help me internet!

"Shin Megami Tensei"?

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#18 Posted by MikeGosot (3237 posts) -

...Great! Shin Megami Tensei new-- WAIT A FUCKING SECOND! You're not FluxWaveZ... What is going on?

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#19 Posted by Hailinel (25787 posts) -

@MikeGosot said:

...Great! Shin Megami Tensei new-- WAIT A FUCKING SECOND! You're not FluxWaveZ... What is going on?

He can't be at his computer 24/7, you know. :P

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#20 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19836 posts) -

@Hailinel said:

@MikeGosot said:

...Great! Shin Megami Tensei new-- WAIT A FUCKING SECOND! You're not FluxWaveZ... What is going on?

He can't be at his computer 24/7, you know. :P

Like hell I can't!

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#21 Posted by MikeGosot (3237 posts) -
@FluxWaveZ said:

@Hailinel said:

@MikeGosot said:

...Great! Shin Megami Tensei new-- WAIT A FUCKING SECOND! You're not FluxWaveZ... What is going on?

He can't be at his computer 24/7, you know. :P

Like hell I can't!

You need to be. You're the Shin Megami Lord, and Hailinel is the Wiki Lord.
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#22 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19836 posts) -

@MikeGosot said:

You need to be. You're the Shin Megami Lord, and Hailinel is the Wiki Lord.

Nope, can't accept that title. I've only played Persona 3 FES, Persona 4, Devil Survivor and Strange Journey. Hailinel and Eirikr are much more acquainted with the series than I am, however I'm doing my best to follow news concerning it nowadays.

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#23 Posted by Animasta (14898 posts) -

@FluxWaveZ said:

@MikeGosot said:

You need to be. You're the Shin Megami Lord, and Hailinel is the Wiki Lord.

Nope, can't accept that title. I've only played Persona 3 FES, Persona 4, Devil Survivor and Strange Journey. Hailinel and Eirikr are much more acquainted with the series than I am, however I'm doing my best to follow news concerning it nowadays.

you should really play Nocturne. Still the best as far as I'm concerned

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#24 Posted by MikeGosot (3237 posts) -
@Animasta said:

@FluxWaveZ said:

@MikeGosot said:

You need to be. You're the Shin Megami Lord, and Hailinel is the Wiki Lord.

Nope, can't accept that title. I've only played Persona 3 FES, Persona 4, Devil Survivor and Strange Journey. Hailinel and Eirikr are much more acquainted with the series than I am, however I'm doing my best to follow news concerning it nowadays.

you should really play Nocturne. Still the best as far as I'm concerned

But SMT II is the craziest. You fight God. Like, Christian God. That is "mentioned" in Nocturne.
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#25 Posted by Animasta (14898 posts) -

@MikeGosot said:

@Animasta said:

@FluxWaveZ said:

@MikeGosot said:

You need to be. You're the Shin Megami Lord, and Hailinel is the Wiki Lord.

Nope, can't accept that title. I've only played Persona 3 FES, Persona 4, Devil Survivor and Strange Journey. Hailinel and Eirikr are much more acquainted with the series than I am, however I'm doing my best to follow news concerning it nowadays.

you should really play Nocturne. Still the best as far as I'm concerned

But SMT II is the craziest. You fight God. Like, Christian God. That is "mentioned" in Nocturne.

I'm actually playing it now (I just got to the center after attempting to capture that scientist) but it's not the best.

DDS2 is probably the craziest though.

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#26 Posted by Video_Game_King (36564 posts) -

@MikeGosot said:

But SMT II is the craziest.

To be fair, though, it's a direct sequel to SMT1, meaning you have to play through that. I only say that because it's a nightmare to navigate.

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#28 Posted by Animasta (14898 posts) -

@Video_Game_King said:

@MikeGosot said:

But SMT II is the craziest.

To be fair, though, it's a direct sequel to SMT1, meaning you have to play through that. I only say that because it's a nightmare to navigate.

I started at two because fuck SMT1, but it's still a pain to navigate. and I'm still way early on.

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#29 Posted by MikeGosot (3237 posts) -
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#30 Posted by Animasta (14898 posts) -

@Eirikr said:

@nick_verissimo: It means "start" or "beginning." Something along those lines.

@Animasta: Nope, you don't fight the sun, you fight Hinduism's transcendent concept of the universe and all beings and matter...so yeah, like Strange Journey's final boss, you're fighting a concept more than anything else. But not a concept in the Giant Bomb sense.

well the final dungeon is still the sun, as everyone is merely solar data besides Seraph.

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#31 Posted by dungbootle (2502 posts) -

Pretty excited

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#32 Posted by Eirikr (1083 posts) -

@Animasta: True, but that's just when you take the story at face value. Most of the modern games, Nocturne and SJ especially, have a bit of added subtext when you consider the mythological elements. DDS is no different. For example, the first game is about the climb up the ladder of the chakras, which you do in the game by taking over the other tribes, culminating in the discovery of the "true consciousness" and the "dissolution of the self" at the apex of Sahasrara, which of course is nothing but the dour truth at the start of the second game. Essentially, and I'm really no expert on DDS2 since I only played it once, the point of having Brahman there at the end is to provide that type of resolution and union with the universe itself.

Man, the plot of DDS1&2 is awesome. Remove the random battles and the grindy Mantra grids and they'd be so top tier.

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#33 Posted by coakroach (2497 posts) -

Man... maybe its time to buy a 3DS

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#34 Posted by mutha3 (5050 posts) -
@Eirikr said:

@Animasta

Man, the plot of DDS1&2 is awesome. Remove the random battles and the grindy Mantra grids and they'd be so top tier.

Aw, I'm not very fond of the random battles either but I thought the progression system in DDS1&2 was pretty interesting. Those games are the only modern SMT that dropped fusion and did its own thing.
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#35 Posted by Bocam (4099 posts) -

@MikeGosot said:

@FluxWaveZ said:

@Hailinel said:

@MikeGosot said:

...Great! Shin Megami Tensei new-- WAIT A FUCKING SECOND! You're not FluxWaveZ... What is going on?

He can't be at his computer 24/7, you know. :P

Like hell I can't!

You need to be. You're the Shin Megami Lord, and Hailinel is the Wiki Lord.

One can only have the title of "Shin Megami Lord" if they suffered through the three books the games were based on.

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#36 Posted by Eirikr (1083 posts) -

@mutha3: It is interesting, especially the hexagonal grid of the second game, but it takes far, far too much money to unlock the higher tier nodes. I have a second cycle save at the end of DDS2 (with Satan and the other bosses beaten) and most characters still have quite a few unclaimed nodes. I'm not asking it to be easy to get the high level skills, just less tedious and without obvious needed grinding for cash. A DDS1&2 collection would be great for the Vita.

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#37 Posted by MikeGosot (3237 posts) -
@Bocam said:

@MikeGosot said:

@FluxWaveZ said:

@Hailinel said:

@MikeGosot said:

...Great! Shin Megami Tensei new-- WAIT A FUCKING SECOND! You're not FluxWaveZ... What is going on?

He can't be at his computer 24/7, you know. :P

Like hell I can't!

You need to be. You're the Shin Megami Lord, and Hailinel is the Wiki Lord.

One can only have the title of "Shin Megami Lord" if they suffered through the three books the games were based on.

I've always been curious about books, but i've never really searched for them or anything like that. And now that you've suggested they're bad, i think i'll keep away from them.
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#38 Posted by Animasta (14898 posts) -

@Eirikr: I know that interpretation of the story, but it's still the sun D:

also it's already top tier, it's the best soundtrack meguro has ever done. FACT.

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#39 Posted by Bocam (4099 posts) -

@MikeGosot: They're more trashy than bad. Kinda like a B-movie.

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#40 Edited by MikeGosot (3237 posts) -
@Bocam said:

@MikeGosot: They're more trashy than bad. Kinda like a B-movie.

A B-Book then? Hmm, i don't know. I will give it a try someday.
 
@Animasta said:

@Eirikr: I know that interpretation of the story, but it's still the sun D:

also it's already top tier, it's the best soundtrack meguro has ever done. FACT.

IT'S NO DISCO MUSIC FROM SMT II !
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#41 Edited by Animasta (14898 posts) -

@MikeGosot said:

@Bocam said:

@MikeGosot: They're more trashy than bad. Kinda like a B-movie.

A B-Book then? Hmm, i don't know. I will give it a try someday.

@Animasta said:

@Eirikr: I know that interpretation of the story, but it's still the sun D:

also it's already top tier, it's the best soundtrack meguro has ever done. FACT.

IT'S NO DISCO MUSIC FROM SMT II !

meguro didn't do the early SMT games, p. sure it's kenichi tsuchiya

edit; nope it was another dude (Tsukasa Masuko)

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#42 Posted by MikeGosot (3237 posts) -
@Animasta said:

@MikeGosot said:

@Bocam said:

@MikeGosot: They're more trashy than bad. Kinda like a B-movie.

A B-Book then? Hmm, i don't know. I will give it a try someday.

@Animasta said:

@Eirikr: I know that interpretation of the story, but it's still the sun D:

also it's already top tier, it's the best soundtrack meguro has ever done. FACT.

IT'S NO DISCO MUSIC FROM SMT II !

meguro didn't do the early SMT games, p. sure it's kenichi tsuchiya

Oh, i didn't saw the Meguro part. And i don't think Kenichi Tsuchiya composed that amazing song. That disco music... So good. I also love that every step you take in the Disco, a message appears saying that "Someone is dancing furiously".
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#43 Posted by Hailinel (25787 posts) -

@MikeGosot said:

@Animasta said:

@MikeGosot said:

@Bocam said:

@MikeGosot: They're more trashy than bad. Kinda like a B-movie.

A B-Book then? Hmm, i don't know. I will give it a try someday.

@Animasta said:

@Eirikr: I know that interpretation of the story, but it's still the sun D:

also it's already top tier, it's the best soundtrack meguro has ever done. FACT.

IT'S NO DISCO MUSIC FROM SMT II !

meguro didn't do the early SMT games, p. sure it's kenichi tsuchiya

Oh, i didn't saw the Meguro part. And i don't think Kenichi Tsuchiya composed that amazing song. That disco music... So good. I also love that every step you take in the Disco, a message appears saying that "Someone is dancing furiously".

I'm a fan of Nocturne's soundtrack, myself. I actually have the Dante Battle theme as the ringtone on my cellphone.

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#44 Posted by Eirikr (1083 posts) -

Not really worth its own thread, but the SMTIV site now has a spooooooky remix of the SMT1 intro music on it. Also a new text blurb saying it's being developed by the "Maniacs" team, but we already knew that. I dunno, I think by using this music is an admission of "going back to its roots" i.e., it'll still probably be a first-person dungeon crawl. I was hoping for third-person honestly, because Nocturne has the best environments Atlus ever made, in that it actually has large, expansive environments.

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#45 Edited by FluxWaveZ (19836 posts) -

Site's got new music. Also, Atlus staff are apparently impressed with the game's first trailer which will debut with the release of Soul Hackers.

http://andriasang.com/con1xo/megaten4_trailer/

Also, just noticed this, but it seems that the image on the website is becoming clearer.

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#46 Edited by Eirikr (1083 posts) -

@FluxWaveZ: Excellent, that's a mix of SMTII's intro and title themes. Though Atlus staff being impressed at their own trailer...okay, sure, why not.

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#47 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19836 posts) -

@Eirikr said:

Though Atlus staff being impressed at their own trailer...okay, sure, why not.

Haha, yeah, I also thought that was a bit weird. I'd love to hear an occasion of a team at Atlus trashing another team's trailer.

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#48 Posted by Eirikr (1083 posts) -

@FluxWaveZ: It has all the honesty of a mother appraising her own child's shitty artwork. :p But what I'm hoping is that they were impressed by the game's production values. "Wow, this game looks like it has double the investment of Strange Journey's budget of $5!"

So now that we've moved from 1 -> 2, I guess a Nocturne mix is on schedule? Though I'd wager they'd go with this intro theme since the other, rockin' one is a little different in style from what they seem to be going for.

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#49 Edited by FluxWaveZ (19836 posts) -

Website updated with a remix of SMT: Nocturne's theme.

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#50 Posted by Animasta (14898 posts) -

oh man that's so good; wonder if we're gonna get a remix of eternal throne from strange journey or if that's it.

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