About the Club Scene (Where they get drunk)...

#1 Posted by Nightriff (5144 posts) -

Playing through P4G right now and just hit early August....did they remove this event? I don't particularly remember exactly where it was in terms of the year but I thought it took place soon after Rise is saved, was it removed from the game in Golden?

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#2 Posted by Video_Game_King (36272 posts) -
#3 Edited by On1inepersona (119 posts) -

I'm still confused in what was in the drinks.

#4 Posted by Nightriff (5144 posts) -
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#5 Posted by Video_Game_King (36272 posts) -

I'm still confused in what was in the drinks.

Nothing. It's common knowledge that you can get drunk off your ass from non-alcoholic beverages as long as you believe there's alcohol in them. Scientists would call it the Peter Pan effect if they knew what they were doing.

#6 Posted by casper_ (907 posts) -

was the "atmosphere" an english translation/re-interpretation or was that in the jp version as well?

#7 Posted by Winternet (8025 posts) -

Teddy put a little powder in everyone's drink. Shhuush.

#8 Edited by Humanity (9579 posts) -

I thought it was butter beer

#9 Edited by Dagbiker (6978 posts) -

I thought it was a way to have underage kids drunk without having them drink alcohol?

#10 Posted by TooWalrus (13232 posts) -

No- it's still there, and that whole segment where they go to Tatsumi Port Island had me bitterly cursing Atlus for not waiting until the "PSP2" was announced to remake Persona 3.

#11 Posted by ToxicFruit (1717 posts) -

I feel like i commented on something like this during the ER

#12 Edited by MikkaQ (10316 posts) -

I still don't get how all these high school students get into a club without being carded and then start ordering shit with no alcohol. Either these are the most responsible kids in the world or Japan has some weird night club/bar laws.

#13 Posted by alternate (2713 posts) -

@mikkaQ They got in because the club doesn't serve any alcohol after being busted for underage drinking. Rise is getting comped drinks so they just assume it is booze.

Underage clubs do exist - I have no idea how they make money.

I would like to believe they wrote the scene with them really getting drunk and then someone freaked out about them being underage and they changed the end to keep it in. Pretty funny either way.

Like how they have a gay character and then dance around the subject also feel like someone said "you can't do that - change the ending".

#14 Posted by MikkaQ (10316 posts) -

@mikkaQ They got in because the club doesn't serve any alcohol after being busted for underage drinking. Rise is getting comped drinks so they just assume it is booze.

Underage clubs do exist - I have no idea how they make money.

I would like to believe they wrote the scene with them really getting drunk and then someone freaked out about them being underage and they changed the end to keep it in. Pretty funny either way.

Like how they have a gay character and then dance around the subject also feel like someone said "you can't do that - change the ending".

Oh like they turned into an underage club between Persona 3 and 4? Cause I remember that awesome monk hung out there in Persona 3 and he was definitely drinking.

This just makes the Persona 4 crew seem really stupid for not knowing what kind of club it was, but then again it reminds me of when I was in high school and how stupid a group of friends can collectively be.

#15 Posted by alternate (2713 posts) -

@mikkaq said:

@alternate said:

@mikkaQ They got in because the club doesn't serve any alcohol after being busted for underage drinking. Rise is getting comped drinks so they just assume it is booze.

Underage clubs do exist - I have no idea how they make money.

I would like to believe they wrote the scene with them really getting drunk and then someone freaked out about them being underage and they changed the end to keep it in. Pretty funny either way.

Like how they have a gay character and then dance around the subject also feel like someone said "you can't do that - change the ending".

Oh like they turned into an underage club between Persona 3 and 4? Cause I remember that awesome monk hung out there in Persona 3 and he was definitely drinking.

This just makes the Persona 4 crew seem really stupid for not knowing what kind of club it was, but then again it reminds me of when I was in high school and how stupid a group of friends can collectively be.

I believe the change was referred to "earlier in the year" or some such - so after Persona 3.

Although you were a kid in P3 and they let you have full run of that club - even taking drink orders etc. Could be Japan is different with ID or maybe just "video games".

#16 Edited by jozzy (2042 posts) -

I don't know about Japan, but in quite a few countries in Europe (i'd say most?) you are allowed to drink from age 16 forward. Don't know how strict they are these days, but I remember going out to clubs at age 15 in the Netherlands. Which I realize now is almost 20 years ago :(

#17 Edited by MikkaQ (10316 posts) -

@alternate: Yeah that's what I'm wondering. Cause I know that in Canada and the US you can't enter a bar or club without being of legal age, maybe in Japan they card at the bar itself and not at the door. But that seems dumb from a business perspective cause you'd just encourage kids to come in and not buy alcohol, while they take up the space that adult clients would use. Seems like an easy way to go out of business to me.

@jozzy said:

I don't know about Japan, but in quite a few countries in Europe (i'd say most?) you are allowed to drink from age 16 forward. Don't know how strict they are these days, but I remember going out to clubs at age 15 in the Netherlands. Which I realize now is almost 20 years ago :(

I know that Japan has the same age as the US which is 21. Which is hilarious. You end up with entire generations of youth completely unable to drink like an adult when they're 21.

#18 Posted by believer258 (11984 posts) -

Remember, this is the series where a bunch of kids guy weapons from a police officer. If they can do that, I'm sure they could get some booze or get into a club. I'm not certain of the Persona 4 details, though.

#19 Posted by mao16 (107 posts) -

They were "high off the atmosphere", anime also confirms this.

#20 Posted by Vertrucio (148 posts) -

You know, after going into a magical shadow dimensions and having to fight F-ed up versions of themselves, along with the inner most negative feelings of everyone in the world manifesting as shadows... yeah, I think they'd earn a drink or two.

#21 Posted by Persona3rocks (33 posts) -

No it was not removed from the game the drunk scene takes place in club escapade when they visit tatsumi port island.

#22 Edited by GrantHeaslip (1644 posts) -

@on1inepersona said:

I'm still confused in what was in the drinks.

Nothing. It's common knowledge that you can get drunk off your ass from non-alcoholic beverages as long as you believe there's alcohol in them. Scientists would call it the Peter Pan effect if they knew what they were doing.

Yeah, but can you really get heavily slurry like Yukiko, or fall asleep like Rise? Especially if you'd never been drunk before and didn't have the sense memory? That whole scene was kind of baffling to me, though it was pretty great regardless.

#23 Posted by EquitasInvictus (2035 posts) -

Anyone have an idea if the Japanese version of Persona 4 is a little more explicit about anything or does it play out pretty much the same way as the English translation down to the non-alcoholic drinks and them really getting drunk off the atmosphere?

#24 Edited by Video_Game_King (36272 posts) -
#25 Posted by AlexanderSheen (5036 posts) -
#26 Posted by GrantHeaslip (1644 posts) -
#27 Edited by starggold (2 posts) -

I went to Japan when I was 18 and they served me sake when we went out to eat.. didn't ask to see my i.d. or anything. so maybe they are more relaxed about underage drinking over there. but in the game I'm guessing that they just didn't want to encourage underage drinking 'officially'.

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