Do I have to play the game first before seeing the Endurance Run?

#1 Posted by Bigheart711 (1253 posts) -

Hello, all. I'm almost finished with P3's storyline (Both Male and Female if you're wondering) & just stumbled upon knowledge of P4's Endurance Run. I was thinking of getting P4's game at the time and thought that I wouldn't get any of it unless I played the whole game. Is it okay to check out the Endurance Run before playing it, or am I at the right of way?

#2 Edited by natetodamax (19193 posts) -

The Endurance Run will spoil everything in the game for you. Buuuuuuut, I got Persona 4 at PAX East even though I've seen the entire Endurance Run, and I'm absolutely loving the game. 
 
EITHER WAY, you should absolutely watch the Endurance Run if you have the time. It contains some of the greatest moments in Giant Bomb history.

#3 Posted by MooseyMcMan (10922 posts) -

If you want to experience the full game with no spoilers, and do what you want, play it first. Vinny skips through a lot of dialog, and they talk over a lot of dialog too. That, and they do stuff that I would not have done, and don't do stuff I would do. 

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#4 Posted by MikkaQ (10284 posts) -

You're fine not playing P4 before watching the ER. Especially if you've played P3 and you know how those games are structured. Hell even a person totally blind to SMT can enjoy it. Since it's the WHOLE game, you just discover stuff alongside Jeff and VInny. 

#5 Posted by Animasta (14677 posts) -

go ahead and play it first, or play with the endurance run, but the twists will have much more impact on you if you play it first.

#6 Posted by FrankCanada97 (4039 posts) -
@natetodamax: And I'm sure of which romance you are going for.
@Bigheart711: As mentioned the endurance run will spoil the game for you you should play the game first. Or you can try the hard task of playing along with the endurance run.
#7 Edited by keyhunter (3207 posts) -

It was already brutal watching the endurance run for me, and I have never played through a persona game. That being said, if you play through persona 4, and then watch them play it, you will literally go mad.
 
Because they're really bad at it.

#8 Posted by fox01313 (5069 posts) -

Not really, while it's probably quite more entertaining if you play your game while keeping up with the Endurance Run it just depends on if you enjoy the surprise that game might have in store or ruin that surprise but get far more entertainment thanks to all those involved with the Endurnace Run. Granted you could play through once on your own & then watch the endurance run but you might miss some great moments. I know with Deadly Premonition I managed to keep up with the game at home & the Endurance Run & it was worth it to see much more of the game then just on my own.

#9 Posted by Brendan (7780 posts) -

If you play it first you will probably feel like the people who consistently made annoying comments under each video screeching at Jeff and Vinny how they were playing the game wrong.  It seems like people who went in fresh had a much more enjoyable ER experience.  

#10 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19331 posts) -

You should play the game first. I enjoyed anticipating Jeff and Vinny's reactions to things I had already seen when I had played the game myself.

#11 Posted by blueaniman93 (604 posts) -

I had no idea what shin megami tensei was at all  and i loved the persona 4 endurance run 

#12 Posted by natetodamax (19193 posts) -
@keyhunter said:
" It was already brutal watching the endurance run for me, and I have never played through a persona game. That being said, if you play through persona 4, and then watch them play it, you will literally go mad.  Because they're really bad at it. "
How many times did they die? Like, 4? Considering it took them 99 hours to finish the game, I think it would be silly to say they were really bad at it. You can't expect everyone to know what they're doing 100% of the time.
#13 Posted by Make_Me_Mad (3078 posts) -
@Bigheart711:
You should definitely check out the Endurance Run, even if you haven't played Persona 4.  You'll get some pretty awesome moments having played through Persona 3 before, too.  I've got a few threads that can help you along in that direction too...
#14 Posted by punisherkaos (273 posts) -

The way i did it and enjoyed it immensely was i would play the game while watching the endurance run but i would always be slightly ahead on my play through by about 3 or 4 episodes

#15 Posted by Rockanomics (1150 posts) -

You should definitely definitely put at least 500 hours into P4 before you start watching the 100 hr endurance run. Definitely.

#16 Posted by ajamafalous (11964 posts) -

I watched it without having played it first. Then I played it after.
 
 
I still think it's the best thing on the site.

#17 Posted by Doctorchimp (4074 posts) -

I remember being halfway through Persona 4 and finishing it up in a couple months while the endurance run was going and it was fine.
 
So do that I guess.

#18 Posted by SirOptimusPrime (1997 posts) -

I watched it first. Then bought it. Needless to say I love it and I've got 140+ hours in the game.  
 
Watch it, play it; play it, watch it. Doesn't matter the order, just do it. 

#19 Posted by Undeadpool (4925 posts) -

I actually kinda played it alongside them. The Endurance Run came about when I was around halfway through the game, so I just started using it as background noise when I had to grind (and you will have to grind...a LOT). I wouldn't recommend doing it like that, but whether or not you should watch the ER directly corresponds to how likely you are to play the game. Cause they spoil EEEEEEEEEverything.

#20 Posted by Scrawnto (2440 posts) -
@SirOptimusPrime said:
" I watched it first. Then bought it. Needless to say I love it and I've got 140+ hours in the game.   Watch it, play it; play it, watch it. Doesn't matter the order, just do it.  "
For sure.
#21 Posted by SethPhotopoulos (5232 posts) -

You can play during.

#22 Posted by FlyingRat (1446 posts) -

I have never played Persona 4, but i have watched the endurance run like... twice. And i enjoyed it immensely. You mean you think you won't get the endurance run unless you've played it...? They don't skip over cutscenes or anything, man. You can experience the story right along with them.

#23 Posted by FateOfNever (1831 posts) -

I watched most of the P4 endurance run first, then borrowed a copy my friend hand and started playing through it myself while still keeping up withe the ER.  In the end, I finished the game some time before they did, but still enjoyed watching it.  So, you can really experience the ER however you want, fresh, along side the game, or game first .  Just be aware though that if you both play through the game and watch the ER, you'll probably be sitting at around 200 hours spent with Persona 4.  
 
Also, I'm totally going to start watching the ER again, man I love the music in that game.

#24 Posted by SethPhotopoulos (5232 posts) -

But if you play before you'll have the fun of knowing about the crazy shit  before hand.  Its similar to showing something crazy to a friend who hasn't seen it before.

#25 Edited by mutha3 (4985 posts) -
@natetodamax said:

" @keyhunter said:

" It was already brutal watching the endurance run for me, and I have never played through a persona game. That being said, if you play through persona 4, and then watch them play it, you will literally go mad.  Because they're really bad at it. "

How many times did they die? Like, 4? Considering it took them 99 hours to finish the game, I think it would be silly to say they were really bad at it. You can't expect everyone to know what they're doing 100% of the time. "
It wasn't about dieing, it was about them doing tons of unnecessary grinding, spending way too much time fusing shit, making simple gameplay mechancis way more obtuse and overly complicated than they really are etc. I did way more sidestuff than they did and played the game at  a much slower pace, yet I finished it in 63 hours.  I can't deny that the ER can be a  little frustrating to watch.
 
And I think they died 7-10 times. I can remember numerous occasions.
 
  @FlyingRat said:

" I have never played Persona 4, but i have watched the endurance run like... twice. And i enjoyed it immensely. You mean you think you won't get the endurance run unless you've played it...? They don't skip over cutscenes or anything, man. You can experience the story right along with them. "


You can't choose who to hang out with though! and they never even finished Kanji's S-link, yo. Tons of stuff in P4 that was never explored in the ER.
#26 Posted by natetodamax (19193 posts) -
@mutha3: But the person said they were really bad at the game. I wouldn't classify grinding and spending a lot of time fusing as lack of skill.
#27 Posted by dungbootle (2457 posts) -

I think it's fine watching without playing. I played the game when it came out and while its cool to anticipate and see their reactions to certain things, its kind of tiring watching them trudge through the slow parts.

#28 Edited by mutha3 (4985 posts) -
@natetodamax said:

" @mutha3: But the person said they were really bad at the game. I wouldn't classify grinding and spending a lot of time fusing as lack of skill. "

I would if they didn't enjoy fusing or grinding(like, at all. They hate fusing with a passion and are not fans of grinding). They didn't like either of those things, yet they spent obscene amounts of time doing them.
 
It depends if you'd define "lack of understanding with regards to the game's basic mechanics" as "lack of skill", if you do, they lacked skill, if you don't....well your mileage may vary!
 
Disregarding the word "skill" for a second, I would definitely consider them bad at the game.
#29 Posted by XenoNick (1403 posts) -

Picked the game up but never got around to starting so decieded to start watching the ER (finished it last week). After watching I've decieded that during my break from uni i'm gonna play through it.

#30 Posted by WhiteBrightKnight (166 posts) -

I'm a weird case because I had never heard of P4 before the ER, and didn't understand what the "endurance run" was until this summer when I watched the whole thing in about 3 weeks; would've been faster if I hadn't been watching the series run of Battlestar Galactica at the same time.  Anyway, watching the ER without playing is fine but there are definitely things you need to experience on you're own, like Kanji's S-Link and hanging out with people after you max out their S-Link.  Either way is fine, I did find it much more thrilling reacting along with them as opposed to knowing what was going to happen, but ultimately just chose one way and stick to it. 

#31 Edited by FluxWaveZ (19331 posts) -
@WhiteBrightKnight said:

" I'm a weird case because I had never heard of P4 before the ER "

Actually, you're probably a common case.
#32 Posted by Juno500 (412 posts) -
@mutha3 said:
" @natetodamax said:

" @mutha3: But the person said they were really bad at the game. I wouldn't classify grinding and spending a lot of time fusing as lack of skill. "

I would if they didn't enjoy fusing or grinding(like, at all. They hate fusing with a passion and are not fans of grinding). They didn't like either of those things, yet they spent obscene amounts of time doing them.  It depends if you'd define "lack of understanding with regards to the game's basic mechanics" as "lack of skill", if you do, they lacked skill, if you don't....well your mileage may vary!  Disregarding the word "skill" for a second, I would definitely consider them bad at the game. "
I agree entirely.
 
I had played through the game several times first, so I found it absolutely maddening to watch them play the game.
#33 Posted by OneManX (1687 posts) -

Honestly watching them play and having played Persona 4.... I had no problem, b/c reading the comments it started to turn into FAQ and playing with a FAQ with a RPG, to me, is not fun. I'd rather just do it and let the chips fall where they may, it's no fun watching a walkthrough, this is very much a Let's Play, watch a guy play a game and have some fun with it


Also they get the True Ending.... so... yeah SPOILERS
#34 Posted by CharleyTony (924 posts) -

after watching a couple of endurance runs, I bought a ps2 and persona 4 and now I am playing it before continuing the endurance run.

When I see something completely crazy in the game, I sometimes try to find the endurance run episode that covers it, to see what they said when they saw the same things.
#35 Posted by MiniPato (2735 posts) -

I played it first and then found out about the endurance run. I can't turn back time, but I think I prefer it that way. I appreciate their jabs and jokes more.

#36 Posted by Hockeymask27 (3683 posts) -

Go in fresh. Enjoy the ignorance along with jeff and vinny. Then do your own.

#37 Posted by Bigheart711 (1253 posts) -

Okay. I've decided. I will watch some of the Endurance Run, but I will have to stop after reaching a certain number of parts before I buy the game, which will be soon. Thanks for helping me with this, all! <3

#38 Posted by JasonR86 (9659 posts) -

I didn't and I was fine.

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