Should the Persona 4 franchise end with P4G?

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#1 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19305 posts) -


#2 Edited by FluxWaveZ (19305 posts) -

Not that it's our choice to make, but I'm wondering what peoples' opinion is on the media expansion that has struck Persona 4. Listing the various Persona 4 media products:

  • Persona 4
  • Persona 4 manga
  • Persona 4: The Animation
  • Persona 4: The Animation movie
  • Persona 4 stage show
  • Persona 4 Arena
  • Persona 4 Arena manga
  • Persona 4 Golden
  • Naoto spin-off novel
  • Yosuke spin-off manga

Not counting potential Persona 4 Arena iterations since those are pretty much inevitable, would you prefer it if the Persona 4 saga ended with the Vita game, possibly to avoid oversaturation or overuse of the characters and world, or would you want it to continue as long as the P4 stuff remained of a certain quality or because you just love the P4 universe/characters too much?

Others I forgot about:

  • Persona 4 Social
  • Perofella (Persona 4 porn, though this one is obviously not Atlus endorsed)
#3 Posted by Aegon (5377 posts) -

Absolutely yes.

#4 Posted by Video_Game_King (35839 posts) -

@FluxWaveZ said:

  • Yosuke spin-off manga

This is a thing? And what about the P4 magazine I heard about?

#5 Edited by FluxWaveZ (19305 posts) -

@Video_Game_King said:

This is a thing? And what about the P4 magazine I heard about?

I didn't include that as it's a general Persona magazine; not just aimed at Persona 4.

And yeah, it's a thing that takes place before the events of P4:

#6 Posted by Bocam (3668 posts) -

It doesn't have a cell phone game yet. So no.

#7 Posted by NoobSauceG7 (1230 posts) -

I would love another game!

#8 Edited by LeYcH (216 posts) -

Yes.

I want a proper Persona game for my PS3

#9 Posted by Hunter5024 (5511 posts) -

I really hope they put a bullet in it soon honestly. I really want to see them do stuff with new characters. I never really understood why they started with all of this extra stuff, personally I always liked the Persona 3 characters better anyways.

#10 Posted by mtcantor (947 posts) -

at this rate the persona series proper is going to completely skip this generation.

#11 Posted by hughesman (312 posts) -

Whoops, I answered without actually reading your question correctly. ("Persona 4" not Persona in general) yeah I think it's time they moved on to a Persona 5. Although the vita remake does seem to be adding a good bit of content.

#12 Posted by C2C (855 posts) -

It should end. I am pretty ok with all the stuff that came out, since only P4 and P4 golden took up any significant portion of Atlus development. I wouldn't like it if Atlus devotes more resources to another port/expansion of P4 instead of getting some newer titles out of the gate.

#13 Posted by siln (81 posts) -

At first I thought this was asking if the Persona franchise should end with P4G, and I was looking for the "I will fucking cut you" option. But yes, I'm about done with P4 after Golden.

#14 Posted by AngelN7 (2970 posts) -

I would've liked to see a new game , the anime is just the game cutscenes social links and boss battles turned into a well an anime so I don't see why that should count as it adds nothing new to the story , so is the stage show , manga and all that crap . P4A is the only product that is expanding on the acutal game story so I would like to see a proper Persona 4 FES but at this point I rather see Persona 5 they "kinda" oversaturated Persona 4 and I say kinda because most of that stuff we won't even see like the stage show or the novels (unless you know japanese in that case you can cosume anything persona with no problem) as for the franchise yes I think there's enough Persona 4 'stuff' out there so let's leave it at that fo P4.

#15 Edited by Xymox (2056 posts) -

Persona 4 Arena is an official continuation of the P4 storyline, so no.

Not sure how I'd feel about a Persona 4-2 though. Either way, I enjoy that they're putting out a lot of stuff for it. Sadly none of it is very accessible unless you're in japan, it seems.

#16 Edited by FluxWaveZ (19305 posts) -

@AngelN7 said:

I would've liked to see a new game , the anime is just the game cutscenes social links and boss battles turned into a well an anime so I don't see why that should count as it adds nothing new to the story , so is the stage show , manga and all that crap .

"Media expansion" not "story expansion".

#17 Posted by AngelN7 (2970 posts) -

@FluxWaveZ said:

@AngelN7 said:

I would've liked to see a new game , the anime is just the game cutscenes social links and boss battles turned into a well an anime so I don't see why that should count as it adds nothing new to the story , so is the stage show , manga and all that crap .

"Media expansion" not "story expansion".

Well if it is media then ... don't? because that just means more money for Atlus (right?) and if they're just translating the story of the game and making spin-offs that don't change anything then I don't see the harm in it and as I said a lot of people in the west won't even get to see or know about that stuff. They got to stop at some point but I want atlus to make Persona 5 a bigger Persona game and if the cross media stuff brings the money then sure milk P4 a little.

#18 Posted by Phatmac (5720 posts) -

Move on to Persona 5!

#19 Edited by mutha3 (4985 posts) -

Yes. Its gotten kinda ridiculous.
 

@FluxWaveZ

said:

@Video_Game_King said:

This is a thing? And what about the P4 magazine I heard about?

I didn't include that as it's a general Persona magazine; not just aimed at Persona 4.

And yeah, it's a thing that takes place before the events of P4:

Most of that magazine seems to be about Persona 4. with some very little P3 thrown into the mix once in a while.
 

@Bocam

said:

It doesn't have a cell phone game yet. So no.

It does, though. Persona 4 Social. There's also P4 stage show:The evolution, upcoming P4A manga, a novelization(not the Naoto novel!) and probably something else I don't feel like recalling right now.
#20 Posted by DonutFever (3549 posts) -

Yes, but it won't.

#21 Edited by Turambar (6641 posts) -

You forgot about the Persona 4 cosplay porn movie.
 
Also yeah, the proliferation of P4 is getting a bit distasteful.

#22 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19305 posts) -

@Turambar said:

You forgot about the Persona 4 cosplay porn movie.

Oh shit, I forgot about the most important one.

#23 Posted by AxleBro (797 posts) -

more fighting games.

#24 Posted by Hunter5024 (5511 posts) -

@C2C said:

It should end. I am pretty ok with all the stuff that came out, since only P4 and P4 golden took up any significant portion of Atlus development.

I think that P4A took some development time as well because they handled all the story stuff.

#25 Posted by Cincaid (2953 posts) -

Milking their products dry seems to be Atlus' way of handling business. Yes, I'm a huge fan of P4 (as many others), but this is getting fucking ridiculous. I mean, does every title in the franchise need 3 different releases on every platform available? And yes, I'm probably just bitter because of the lack of P5 news. At this rate I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the P5 timeline will look like this:

  • Late 2012 / Early 2013: P5 news start trickling out from magazines and websites.
  • E3 2013: PS4 and X720 are announced. Atlus announce P5 will be released for PS3 and X360.
  • Late 2013 / Early 2014: P5 released in Japan. PS4 and X720 released worldwide.
  • Summer 2014: P5 released in the US. No word on EU release. Some third hand publisher will do it "eventually".
  • Late 2014 / Early 2015: P5 released in EU.
#26 Edited by Linkster7 (1009 posts) -

Oh my god what?! There's Persona 4 porn?!!

ehhhh I'll be right back.

Edit: I'm back, I'm disappointed.

OT: Yes move on to new things.

#27 Posted by Video_Game_King (35839 posts) -

@Turambar said:

You forgot about the Persona 4 cosplay porn movie. Also yeah, the proliferation of P4 is getting a bit distasteful.

To be fair, that's an outside company doing that, and they've done porn for everything. They even did Durarara porn, because the first thing I thought when I saw Celty was "I'd love to jerk it to her".

#28 Posted by AngelN7 (2970 posts) -

Persona 3 came out in 2007 right? 1 year after the PS3 came out and Persona 4 came out in 2008! you should know that Persona 5 will probably come some time after the new consoles launch so ... it's coming but we're gonna have to wait.

#29 Posted by Bocam (3668 posts) -

@mutha3: I thought Atlus only made one for Persona 3. Then yes, it's time to stop.

#30 Posted by alternate (2679 posts) -

If people buy this shit then it funds other less popular Atlus games.

#31 Posted by Hunter5024 (5511 posts) -

@Video_Game_King said:

@Turambar said:

You forgot about the Persona 4 cosplay porn movie. Also yeah, the proliferation of P4 is getting a bit distasteful.

To be fair, that's an outside company doing that, and they've done porn for everything. They even did Durarara porn, because the first thing I thought when I saw Celty was "I'd love to jerk it to her".

If there's one thing I've learned hanging around special needs schools, its that it sure is hard to go to 3rd base with girls in helmets.

#32 Posted by Bribo (590 posts) -

There's yet more material to mine:

Rookie Cop Chie Satonaka.

Yukiko Amagi: Extreme Hotelier!

Kanji branded folding chairs?

I vote for yes.

#33 Posted by Turambar (6641 posts) -
@Video_Game_King said:

@Turambar said:

You forgot about the Persona 4 cosplay porn movie. Also yeah, the proliferation of P4 is getting a bit distasteful.

To be fair, that's an outside company doing that, and they've done porn for everything. They even did Durarara porn, because the first thing I thought when I saw Celty was "I'd love to jerk it to her".

Pretty sure that bit was said in jest, and that my feeling of distaste at the proliferation of the P4 brand is independent of that.
#34 Posted by Video_Game_King (35839 posts) -

@Turambar said:

Pretty sure that bit was said in jest

It's the Internet; concepts like irony and sarcasm do not translate well. Or at all.

#35 Posted by Bocam (3668 posts) -

@Video_Game_King said:

@Turambar said:

You forgot about the Persona 4 cosplay porn movie. Also yeah, the proliferation of P4 is getting a bit distasteful.

To be fair, that's an outside company doing that, and they've done porn for everything. They even did Durarara porn, because the first thing I thought when I saw Celty was "I'd love to jerk it to her".

Headless Girl Blowjob WOO WOO

#36 Posted by Video_Game_King (35839 posts) -

@Bocam said:

@Video_Game_King said:

@Turambar said:

You forgot about the Persona 4 cosplay porn movie. Also yeah, the proliferation of P4 is getting a bit distasteful.

To be fair, that's an outside company doing that, and they've done porn for everything. They even did Durarara porn, because the first thing I thought when I saw Celty was "I'd love to jerk it to her".

Headless Girl Blowjob WOO WOO

I imagine with Celty, it would feel like sticking your dick in a fog machine.

#37 Posted by Turambar (6641 posts) -
@Video_Game_King said:

@Turambar said:

Pretty sure that bit was said in jest

It's the Internet; concepts like irony and sarcasm do not translate well. Or at all.

While I've said that exact sentence to others many times before as well, given I'm talking about cosplay porn...  But you're right, you're right.  I should be sensitive to lunarian needs.
#38 Posted by PenguinDust (12442 posts) -

Yes! Enough dilly-dallying. Give us P5.

#39 Posted by Video_Game_King (35839 posts) -

@Turambar said:

I should be sensitive to lunarian needs.
#40 Posted by Bocam (3668 posts) -

@Video_Game_King said:

@Bocam said:

@Video_Game_King said:

@Turambar said:

You forgot about the Persona 4 cosplay porn movie. Also yeah, the proliferation of P4 is getting a bit distasteful.

To be fair, that's an outside company doing that, and they've done porn for everything. They even did Durarara porn, because the first thing I thought when I saw Celty was "I'd love to jerk it to her".

Headless Girl Blowjob WOO WOO

I imagine with Celty, it would feel like sticking your dick in a fog machine.

brb

#41 Posted by DanHammett (149 posts) -

No. We need a new game featuring the old gang on the new consoles. End of story.

#42 Posted by Karkarov (2942 posts) -

I am not sure what you are getting at, there is no such thing as a "Persona 4 franchise". The franchise is "Shin Megami Tensei: Persona" itself. Every game has easter eggs and references to the previous ones, many of them have cameo's from older characters. Hell Mitsuru, Aigis, and Akihiko are even playable in the upcoming game. They will move on to a new game soon, in fact it is all but confirmed they are already working on P5 and it will be on a current gen system apparently. Yes they will move on to new characters but there will still be those easter eggs and cameo's by the old ones you can bet on it.

#43 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19305 posts) -

@Karkarov said:

I am not sure what you are getting at, there is no such thing as a "Persona 4 franchise".

Um, and all the things I listed starting with "Persona 4"? The game itself has obviously become a franchise; there's nothing hard to understand there.

#44 Posted by LordAndrew (14419 posts) -

No, not at all. They haven't even announced a port or spin-off for Ouya yet.

#45 Posted by Bocam (3668 posts) -

@Karkarov said:

I am not sure what you are getting at, there is no such thing as a "Persona 4 franchise". The franchise is "Shin Megami Tensei: Persona" itself. Every game has easter eggs and references to the previous ones, many of them have cameo's from older characters. Hell Mitsuru, Aigis, and Akihiko are even playable in the upcoming game. They will move on to a new game soon, in fact it is all but confirmed they are already working on P5 and it will be on a current gen system apparently. Yes they will move on to new characters but there will still be those easter eggs and cameo's by the old ones you can bet on it.

No, it's just the Persona franchise. Shin Megami Tensei has nothing to do with the Persona games.

#46 Posted by Hunter5024 (5511 posts) -

@Bocam said:

@Video_Game_King said:

@Bocam said:

@Video_Game_King said:

@Turambar said:

You forgot about the Persona 4 cosplay porn movie. Also yeah, the proliferation of P4 is getting a bit distasteful.

To be fair, that's an outside company doing that, and they've done porn for everything. They even did Durarara porn, because the first thing I thought when I saw Celty was "I'd love to jerk it to her".

Headless Girl Blowjob WOO WOO

I imagine with Celty, it would feel like sticking your dick in a fog machine.

brb

This made me laugh way too hard.

#47 Posted by MikeFightNight (1068 posts) -

Yes, they should move on. I didn't realize how much P4 stuff is out there! With that said I am really looking forward to P4A story mode and want to see how many risks they take and where it leaves the whole persona story in the end. Avoiding all spoilers! It was the P4 ER that introduced me to the Persona franchise and I decided to play P4 because of it. P4 is great, but honestly I like P3 more, and I played it after. Here is hoping that the Persona franchise can move on and tell new stories with new characters.

#48 Posted by DoctorWelch (2774 posts) -

Yeah, I don't understand why they don't just take the time to make another real one of those games...you know...like...Persona 5?

#49 Posted by Gabriel (4055 posts) -

Dat Charlie they got for the Persona 4 Porn is magical.

#50 Posted by Bocam (3668 posts) -

@Gabriel said:

Dat Charlie they got for the Persona 4 Porn is magical.

Goro is magical

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