So I bit Civilization IV and even with the tutorial I found the game too complicated any did not know what to do.
How does Civilization V help out new players?
Thanks.
Sid Meier's Civilization V
Game » consists of 6 releases. Released Sep 21, 2010
Civilization V brings brand new gameplay elements to this beloved franchise, while maintaining the "just one more turn" mentality.
How is this game to Civ noobs?
There's a quick look that gives a good little glance. According to Ryan Davis, it can be as simple or complicated as you want it to be.
Quick looks don't really show much i guess...
But yeah, V is much simpler than IV. Much easier to understand and play. At least, that's what i got from the demo.
Well, no more death stacks helps a hell of a lot at least. Happiness is now empire instead of each city. Stuff like that.
All I know is, I played a game for about 8 hours today, thought I was doing really well (controlled half the map and had decent relations with everyone, and was micromanaging all of my cities for the best possible outputs). Then all the sudden, England declares war, and 432423424 enemy troops came into my area and destroyed. everything.
First time playing. It was.. interesting.
Now to try again..
My only exposure to the Civ series is probably 25 full matches of CivRev. And I had zero trouble following Ryan's quicklook. Does that say anything? :X
I've never played a Civ game before now. It has a lot of depth (and breadth) and along with that comes a steep learning curve, but I'm having fun with it. Played about five hours tonight and things are just starting to click, and I feel like I've made a lot of mistakes. There are still a lot of things I don't quite understand, but I'll figure it out eventually.
Don't buy this game if you're not prepared to sink a lot of time into it. A LOT of time.
I'm brand new to civ, and I love it! I have to say though, it was confusing as hell for the first 15 minutes or so. To the point that I was asking a friend of mine "what do I click on to make units?" It's pretty unlike any othe strategy game I've ever played. still, it is addictive as hell. I sunk in 4 hours my first night.
I'm new to Civ and when i first played Civ V I was kind of lost, as Vinny said in the quick look it doesn't have a good tutorial program per-say. the interface is easy enough to understand but I didn't know the order I was supposed to be working in. However after watching the quick look I jumped back in and started doing great. sometimes you just need to see someone playing a game right to understand it.
Since I'm almost as old as the dinosaurs (28) I've played Civ since the first game, so I can't say much really. However, I really like the option to set your advisors between different levels, such as "New to Civ", "New to Civ 5", and stuff like that. And while changes seem towards making the game easier for the masses, I in fact feel many changes are towards hardcore players as well, such as only one unit per tile.
Settler difficulty is basically a sandbox mode, so you can learn as you play, but Civilization V also has special tutorial missions if you want to play them.
Totally agree with you about one unit per tile. This is what really makes this game in my opinion. It simplifies things for new players by reducing the number of units you have to keep track of and deal with while simultaneously adding a new level of strategy for hardcore players.
Super smooth start for me. Every step of the way, they tell you what you should be doing, and offering additional information IF you want to read it. For the most part, I don't want to read it and I'm doing fine on normal.
I read descriptions when I need to choose between tech. I looked up combat bonus in the civopedia at one point. Took one look at the economy tab and decided I'm not going to touch it. Saw something about specialists and didn't feel like getting into it so I left it on auto. Didn't want to micro all those workers so I set them on auto too.
Eventually I cracked open the tech tree and social poilcies so I could plan ahead, and all the information I needed was right there in tool-tips, no fumbling around to find it.
Ryan's description was pretty spot on. You have a lot of control over how complex you want the game to be.
I thought the same thing about Civ IV and still get confused when I play that game, but now playing Civ V, I understand everything that is going on. It is way way more fun, just an overall better game.
" The tutorial did nothing for me. I didn't even know where to click and when I did click stuff I had no idea what I was making happen. How is to to Civ noobs? A failure, for me at least. "How is that even possible? Seriously, not knowing what to do in a game with giant blinking buttons and people telling you what to do all the time is incomprehensible for me. No offense, but how did you manage to turn your PC on and get on the internet?
I didn't even play the tutorial and could play it right away(no civ experience at all, maybe I'm just a genius or somethin)
Considering civ 5 is so dumbed down and the menu icons are huge like grade school flash cards you shouldn't have any trouble understanding what is going on. play the game on a harder difficulty the way its meant to be played. all the problems youll find with the AI on lower levels aren't as bad when you crank up the difficulty.
Civ V is the one I understand. I tried before with Civ 4 and Civ Rev but still didn't quite getit. Now though I'm picking up the subtle nuances and starting to optimize how I'm playing. Very accessible, I want to try multi-player games soon.
I played maybe a handful of hours with civ 4 and I felt that it hated me and bullied me until I stopped hanging around it. Then I met civ 5 and it was easy to talk to and knew I wasn't sure of myself. It had the patience to let me go at my own pace. Civ 5 suggested a couple of things that I should do to get started and listed a few reasons why I should do those things; Civ 4 told me that I should do this and I could do some of the other things listed but, it recommended that I do what it says and that if I didn't, it wasn't going to hold back the punishment of not listening.
I guess what I'm saying is that Civ 5 feels like you're in more of a healthy relationship while I felt like Civ 4 treated me like a whore.
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