Fuck. My brother got BF3, and their servers kicked him off every interval of 5:23. Don't know why to this day, support tickets went unanswered.

I really want to play Sim CIty V.

Punkbuster kicked your brother. It is their preferred Anti-cheat client that comes with the game as it is installed. A lot of people had issues with it on release. It wasn't a problem with the Origin service.

Oh buhu get over it. Playing Mass Effect 3 on Origin and I don't see what the big deal is, it's fine

Oh hey, we're back at complaining about Origin.

Then sign up for Origin.

Yeah..sign up. You dont lose your soul or anything. And Steam will not beat down your door yelling at you about cheating.

Punkbuster is the worst. You probably have to update it. It is like a program from the early 90's the way it looks and installs. Terrible, but you have to live with it.

@Venatio said:

Oh buhu get over it. Playing Mass Effect 3 on Origin and I don't see what the big deal is, it's fine

There is none. It's perfectly fine.

Origin is fine. It's just a bummer that we won't find this in a Steam sale.

Hey don't worry brother/sister. I was pretty panicked myself back when I had to get it to install Mass Effect 3. Not because I'd heard Origin sucked or anything but mostly because I wasn't too fond of EA.

I'm still not, but their little program has come a ways from where it began and as a medium to engage in my ME3 multiplayer it's harmless.

Their shift/tab equivalent tells you the time now!

Amazing!

Don't sweat it.

Origin is percetly a-okay.

I've had no problem with Origin over past 6 months. Such a stupid excuse not to play a game.

Yeah I used to be reluctant about Origin around the time of BF3 but I ended up adjusting. It's only natural they'll force it for SimCity so I'm neither taken aback or disappointed.

So are you just lazy or

Oh yeah I'd have to re-install that piece of junk. Maybe if BF3 didn't disappoint so much I wouldn't care, but having Origin just for Sim City is dumb. Oh well, there's always those shitty Cities XL games...

God damn it!

Origin is no worse than Steam.

I go where the games are.

Origin is really not that bad, in fact it's not "bad" at all. Nothing about the platform actively inhibits my ability or desire to buy and/or play games.

you know you can ADD origin games to steam, right?

well I added DA2 at any rate

You guys are being way too generous.

Origin sucks compared to Steam, but it's definitely not worth not playing a game over.

I have all the Dragon Age games installed on Origin, and I am yet to have my organs harvested. It's just a platform - a little clunky, yes, but not GFWL clunky. Just not Steam smooth yet.

I'm not getting Sim City (5?) for the reason and the fact that I don't approve of the way they make their games anymore. Of course I wasn't going make a hub bub about it, but I might as well say so now. The Sims 3 is a good example of the quantity of quality approach they take with their development.

I have these games to make up for any 2012 shit equivalent

1. Sim City
2. Sim Tower
3. Sim Farm
4. Sim City 3000
5. Sim City 4
6. The Sims
7. The Sims 2
8. Sim Copter
9. Sim Golf
10. Sim Theme park

@Jams: the sims and simcity are different enough games that I hardly think it would matter.

@Animasta said:

@Jams: the sims and simcity are different enough games that I hardly think it would matter.

Instead of managing a city, you're managing a person or family. I don't really see how it's any different.

I'd prefer to have all my PC games under the Steam umbrella, but it's not a big deal that my Blizzard and EA games are in their own little ecosystem.

@Jams said:

@Animasta said:

@Jams: the sims and simcity are different enough games that I hardly think it would matter.

Instead of managing a city, you're managing a person or family. I don't really see how it's any different.

different audiences though. Like, the people who play the sims are probably more concerned with what their sim looks like than the simcity person is concerned with what their city looks like (I don't mean layout and shit but merely the looks of the buildings)

@Animasta said:

@Jams said:

@Animasta said:

@Jams: the sims and simcity are different enough games that I hardly think it would matter.

Instead of managing a city, you're managing a person or family. I don't really see how it's any different.

different audiences though. Like, the people who play the sims are probably more concerned with what their sim looks like than the simcity person is concerned with what their city looks like (I don't mean layout and shit but merely the looks of the buildings)

As a fan of both, that can be true for The Sims. People most certainly do it for what their sims look like. A ton of people do it for the house building part too. But as a fan of that game, it can get pretty challenging to manage a full family in that game. Especially if you give them difficult traits.

@Jams said:

@Animasta said:

@Jams said:

@Animasta said:

@Jams: the sims and simcity are different enough games that I hardly think it would matter.

Instead of managing a city, you're managing a person or family. I don't really see how it's any different.

different audiences though. Like, the people who play the sims are probably more concerned with what their sim looks like than the simcity person is concerned with what their city looks like (I don't mean layout and shit but merely the looks of the buildings)

As a fan of both, that can be true for The Sims. People most certainly do it for what their sims look like. A ton of people do it for the house building part too. But as a fan of that game, it can get pretty challenging to manage a full family in that game. Especially if you give them difficult traits.

oh no I play the sims too. and honestly I don't feel like I'm missing ALL that much not having the expansions and shit. but you also have to figure that most of the people that play the sims aren't really heavy gamers, and so they are more easily price gouged since that's probably one of the only regular games they play (facebook/phone games aside).

I'm not saying it's not going to happen, but it will at least be better about it than sims 3 was.

@Animasta said:

@Jams said:

@Animasta said:

@Jams said:

@Animasta said:

@Jams: the sims and simcity are different enough games that I hardly think it would matter.

Instead of managing a city, you're managing a person or family. I don't really see how it's any different.

different audiences though. Like, the people who play the sims are probably more concerned with what their sim looks like than the simcity person is concerned with what their city looks like (I don't mean layout and shit but merely the looks of the buildings)

As a fan of both, that can be true for The Sims. People most certainly do it for what their sims look like. A ton of people do it for the house building part too. But as a fan of that game, it can get pretty challenging to manage a full family in that game. Especially if you give them difficult traits.

oh no I play the sims too. and honestly I don't feel like I'm missing ALL that much not having the expansions and shit. but you also have to figure that most of the people that play the sims aren't really heavy gamers, and so they are more easily price gouged since that's probably one of the only regular games they play (facebook/phone games aside).

I'm not saying it's not going to happen, but it will at least be better about it than sims 3 was.

OH I get what you're trying to say now. You mean to say that they wouldn't make a cosmetic and sell it for $6 like they do in The Sims. I guess that makes sense, although I wouldn't put it past them to try and find a way to make it work like that.

Origin is worse than steam but is by no means bad, especially for simply playing a game. Sign up and don't worry about it

@Animasta said:

@Jams said:

@Animasta said:

@Jams said:

@Animasta said:

@Jams: the sims and simcity are different enough games that I hardly think it would matter.

Instead of managing a city, you're managing a person or family. I don't really see how it's any different.

different audiences though. Like, the people who play the sims are probably more concerned with what their sim looks like than the simcity person is concerned with what their city looks like (I don't mean layout and shit but merely the looks of the buildings)

As a fan of both, that can be true for The Sims. People most certainly do it for what their sims look like. A ton of people do it for the house building part too. But as a fan of that game, it can get pretty challenging to manage a full family in that game. Especially if you give them difficult traits.

oh no I play the sims too. and honestly I don't feel like I'm missing ALL that much not having the expansions and shit. but you also have to figure that most of the people that play the sims aren't really heavy gamers, and so they are more easily price gouged since that's probably one of the only regular games they play (facebook/phone games aside).

I'm not saying it's not going to happen, but it will at least be better about it than sims 3 was.

The digital deluxe edition of SimCity comes with signature landmarks, associated city looks (French, British and German) to match those landmarks, and transport methods appropriate to those places.

If that's all they'll sell for DLC (or similar,) I think I'll be okay not buying it. I'm building my own city, not a crapped up hybrid of Britain and Germany.

Even if SimCity does come to Steam, or some other service, it's pretty much assured that you'll still need to sign into the game service with an EA account, and that very same account will be used to sign into Origin. There's really no getting around the fact that you'll be signing up for an EA account. Not that I am promoting Origin or EA, for that matter. Personally, I don't feel like signing up for yet another service just for one game.

@dekkadekkadekka said:

Origin is no worse than Steam.

Steam's sales are both better and more abundant.

Well I guess having two games on Origin makes having it installed in my computer feel less annoying than just having it for that one game. Not that big of a deal anyway.

@davo said:

Even if SimCity does come to Steam, or some other service, it's pretty much assured that you'll still need to sign into the game service with an EA account, and that very same account will be used to sign into Origin. There's really no getting around the fact that you'll be signing up for an EA account. Not that I am promoting Origin or EA, for that matter. Personally, I don't feel like signing up for yet another service just for one game.

I've never had to launch origin to play one of the games I got from there

maybe it's different for stuff like BF3 and simcity but

@Animasta

Okay, I stand corrected for the most part. My point remains for SimCity, though. There's no way the game won't have any social aspect to it.

I've been staying away from Origin as well. I have no interest in yet another place to buy digital games. This game may just sway me though.

I think the issue with Origin is that all saves with Simcity will be cloud synced, and not stored locally which means that unless there's some good save management, you can't deliberately destroy your city for kicks, and then reload.

@AndrewB said:

You guys are being way too generous.

Origin sucks compared to Steam, but it's definitely not worth not playing a game over.

origin does all it has to do. why does it suck?

Origin as a store to buy games is terrible. Origin as a software to play games, while not fully featured like Steam, is as functional as Steam is.

I buy Origin games on GMG.

While I have some hesitation of using Origin over Steam, I think that compared to what the OP saw with Battlefield3 that the online servers/game will be different for Sim City. Game looks great so I will get over using origin once I remember where I wrote the password for it (as I never use it).

Yeah I thought about this 3 months ago since I would prefer not to use Origin.

But I'm delaying the inevitable here. I'll buy it two weeks before release, Origin or not.

Origin is not Steam but I had no problems with it while playing Mass Effect 3 for 50+ hours.

Like AndrewB said, Origin isn't great, and could be a lot better. 
However, skipping on a game because of it? a bit ridiculous.

You can disable the origin overlay and run EA games through Steam to get the steam overlay. Works like a charm. It's almost as if Origin doesn't exist.

Buy the game (stress this part) retail. Download the inevitable offline cracked exe. If you want multiplayer/leaderboard you are going to have to suck it up.

I really wish it was on Steam too, if only so I can try and keep all my games in one place. But hey, that's PC gaming for ya.