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Daybreak Games, formerly known as Sony Online Entertainment, is best known for their popular MMOs such as EverQuest, DC Universe Online, and PlanetSide. In 2020, Daybreak Games split into three separate development studios while the publishing side remained known as Daybreak Games.
Roughly 900 Credit Card Numbers Exposed Via Sony Online Entertainment Breach
Sony's security woes continued yesterday when Sony Online Entertainment announced a security breach at the same facility that housed PlayStation Network's recently compromised database.
The MMO developer said the personal information of 24.6 million accounts were exposed, in addition to 12,791 non-US credit or debit numbers with expiration dates--but not security codes. Data compromised included name, address, email address, birth date, gender, phone number, login name, and hashed password. 10,740 direct debit records from Germany, Austria, Netherlands and Spain were also accessed.
In mildly "positive" news, SOE has revealed this morning that most of those were actually expired cards. Only 900 of the nearly 13,000 exposed were active cards, meaning most consumers are not at risk. The database accessed was reportedly from 2007, explaining how so many of the cards have expired.
Like PSN, SOE does not believe its main database was or is at risk.
"There is no evidence that our main credit card database was compromised," reiterated the company in a statement. "It is in a completely separate and secure environment."
It's been quite a ride when that's considered positive news.
With PSN still down, PlayStation 3 users are still unable to access SOE titles like DC Universe Online.
Sony's security woes continued yesterday when Sony Online Entertainment announced a security breach at the same facility that housed PlayStation Network's recently compromised database.
The MMO developer said the personal information of 24.6 million accounts were exposed, in addition to 12,791 non-US credit or debit numbers with expiration dates--but not security codes. Data compromised included name, address, email address, birth date, gender, phone number, login name, and hashed password. 10,740 direct debit records from Germany, Austria, Netherlands and Spain were also accessed.
In mildly "positive" news, SOE has revealed this morning that most of those were actually expired cards. Only 900 of the nearly 13,000 exposed were active cards, meaning most consumers are not at risk. The database accessed was reportedly from 2007, explaining how so many of the cards have expired.
Like PSN, SOE does not believe its main database was or is at risk.
"There is no evidence that our main credit card database was compromised," reiterated the company in a statement. "It is in a completely separate and secure environment."
It's been quite a ride when that's considered positive news.
With PSN still down, PlayStation 3 users are still unable to access SOE titles like DC Universe Online.
Yeah...I realized after I went and canceled my card that the last game I bought on PSN was Final Fantasy VII, and that means that they still had my old expiry date. Usually it's not very hard to figure out what the new expiry date is because it's generally either 3, 4 or 5 years after your previous one.
Even if your expiry date was not updated, it's still not a bad idea to have your card reissued.
"Don't think too hard about it or else it wont happen. This site wont go permanently down soon; if that shit ever happens, that's gonna be lulz for the non-forum, non-wiki, but hella quest people WHO SHOULD POST OR HELP MAKE A WIKI! Ahem...OKAY
Oh well, one day.... one day.
*Gotta keep on trucking*
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Well out of "77 million" users that's only 0.0012% of possible credit cards that could have leaked.
I should work as a spin doctor for Sony.
How did Sony decide if a card has expired? A different CID number would likely have been issued by now, but not definitively...and that doesn't change the basic credit card number.
The bad news just keeps pouring in from Sony. I'm starting to feel sort of bad for them; they've got an honest mess on their hands, and someone out there just keeps pouring it on faster than they can deal with it.
Didn't Sony's press release last week say that some PSN services would start coming back online today? or did they later amend that to sometime this week?
" Well out of "77 million" users that's only 0.0012% of possible credit cards that could have leaked.I should work as a spin doctor for Sony. "This is SOE not PSN
" Well out of "77 million" users that's only 0.0012% of possible credit cards that could have leaked.I should work as a spin doctor for Sony. "The 77 million is from playstaion network, this article is talking about SOE(there online mmo's) at the same facility.
" Even 1 exposed is too many. "Oh shut up. Unless you are a 1 man, top security firm, I think I'll just assume that your another whining prick. Nothing is perfect. Even military body armor can't stop every round. How can you expect it to be any different for cyber security? 900 isn't that bad, especially if the people know about it. If you have a credit card and you don't keep an eye on your account, especially when you've been notified of this kind of event, your just asking for it. It sucks, maybe they could have done better, but that's a tiny number relatively speaking, and it's not like they just gave em out to criminals. Why blame the people who spent 4 years planning a bank heist when you can blame the bank, right?
"Except they were secure. Just separate.Nice going, Sony! "Meh. They were mostly expired cards. Why secure em."
Don't think I'll be doing business with those pricks ever again. Anyone wanna buy a PS3 Slim?
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But hey, feel free to be a big baby about all of this and act like Sony fucked you in the ass with a steel rod. Also, SOE is totally separate from the Playstation division. Sony is so big with so many parts, it's basically a confederation, in business form. Blaming one division for the failing of another is just silly.
Yeah...not to pile on but this really is such a fiasco. This is just so unacceptable that its not even funny. You have to be either an employee of Sony or have a Sony fanboy tattoo to be defending them at this point.
Limited services are returning tomorrow." Didn't Sony's press release last week say that some PSN services would start coming back online today? or did they later amend that to sometime this week? "
@MordeaniisChaos
said:Sony failed their customers big time and have broken laws/mandates in certain countries. They deserve everything they get and I think defending them for this is stupendously immature." Except they were secure. Just separate.
But hey, feel free to be a big baby about all of this and act like Sony fucked you in the ass with a steel rod. Also, SOE is totally separate from the Playstation division. Sony is so big with so many parts, it's basically a confederation, in business form. Blaming one division for the failing of another is just silly."
You can call people babies for being upset, but I'm sure you'll feel very differently if you're the victim of identity fraud because of Sony's lax security measures. Sony don't need you to defend them and you shouldn't be pretending that this isn't a big deal.
I never enter a credit card number into a console,I just pick up those cards in a store if I want Xbox live or PSN credit.
" You have to be either an employee of Sony or have a Sony fanboy tattoo to be defending them at this point. "Or do any research whatsoever.
" @Tekkor said:I find it highly amusing that it's only the people with blue usernames (and KaosAngel, who's a Sony fanboy anyway) defending them at this point." You have to be either an employee of Sony or have a Sony fanboy tattoo to be defending them at this point. "Or do any research whatsoever. "
" @MrAristocrates said:Maybe it's because the people with the blue usernames aren't posting in the first article they see without looking anything else up. I'd be a lot more open to what you had to say if you weren't so rude about it." @Tekkor said:I find it highly amusing that it's only the people with blue usernames (and KaosAngel, who's a Sony fanboy anyway) defending them at this point." You have to be either an employee of Sony or have a Sony fanboy tattoo to be defending them at this point. "Or do any research whatsoever. "But please, point me in the direction if this research that I've clearly skipped over, that nulls the fact they've lost my personal details and maybe even my credit card information twice."
Also, again, research. We still don't have any evidence that the PSN credit card info was even accessed.
I declare the word "fanboy" to be a variation on Godwin's law, in that someone will always bring it up.
"We still don't have any evidence that the PSN credit card info was even accessed."Their system was compromised! WE HAVE TO ASSUME THE WORST. If you do NOT assume the worst, YOU ARE BEING EXTREMELY NAIVE.
" @WinterSnowblind said:" @MrAristocrates said:Maybe it's because the people with the blue usernames aren't posting in the first article they see without looking anything else up. I'd be a lot more open to what you had to say if you weren't so rude about it.Also, again, research. We still don't have any evidence that the PSN credit card info was even accessed.I declare the word "fanboy" to be a variation on Godwin's law, in that someone will always bring it up. "" @Tekkor said:I find it highly amusing that it's only the people with blue usernames (and KaosAngel, who's a Sony fanboy anyway) defending them at this point." You have to be either an employee of Sony or have a Sony fanboy tattoo to be defending them at this point. "Or do any research whatsoever. "But please, point me in the direction if this research that I've clearly skipped over, that nulls the fact they've lost my personal details and maybe even my credit card information twice."
" @WinterSnowblind said:Fanboy." @MrAristocrates said:Maybe it's because the people with the blue usernames aren't posting in the first article they see without looking anything else up. I'd be a lot more open to what you had to say if you weren't so rude about it.Also, again, research. We still don't have any evidence that the PSN credit card info was even accessed.I declare the word "fanboy" to be a variation on Godwin's law, in that someone will always bring it up. "" @Tekkor said:I find it highly amusing that it's only the people with blue usernames (and KaosAngel, who's a Sony fanboy anyway) defending them at this point." You have to be either an employee of Sony or have a Sony fanboy tattoo to be defending them at this point. "Or do any research whatsoever. "But please, point me in the direction if this research that I've clearly skipped over, that nulls the fact they've lost my personal details and maybe even my credit card information twice."
" @MrAristocrates said:It disturbs me that I thought it was a joke at first. I would prefer waiting until I hear (not just from Sony, mind you) reliable sources telling me that the cards were actually compromised, rather than cancel a card based on something I don't have enough info to make an informed decision based upon."We still don't have any evidence that the PSN credit card info was even accessed."Their system was compromised! WE HAVE TO ASSUME THE WORST. If you do NOT assume the worst, YOU ARE BEING EXTREMELY NAIVE.I cancelled my card a while ago. If you haven't already done so, you should get on that shit. The alternative could seriously screw up your life."
Oh, I wasn't denying it. It just pisses me off that it comes up so often. I own every console and I'm still a raging fanboy!" @MrAristocrates said:
Fanboy. "" @WinterSnowblind said:
" @MrAristocrates said:Maybe it's because the people with the blue usernames aren't posting in the first article they see without looking anything else up. I'd be a lot more open to what you had to say if you weren't so rude about it.Also, again, research. We still don't have any evidence that the PSN credit card info was even accessed.I declare the word "fanboy" to be a variation on Godwin's law, in that someone will always bring it up. "" @Tekkor said:I find it highly amusing that it's only the people with blue usernames (and KaosAngel, who's a Sony fanboy anyway) defending them at this point. But please, point me in the direction if this research that I've clearly skipped over, that nulls the fact they've lost my personal details and maybe even my credit card information twice." You have to be either an employee of Sony or have a Sony fanboy tattoo to be defending them at this point. "Or do any research whatsoever. "
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@FMinus: It pisses me off too that Sony had such poor security. But people have been finding numerous ways that don't even make sense to get angry over this, and it's annoying.
and it's not like they just gave em out to criminals. "As long as a company doesn't actively give away your credit card information to criminals they are doing a good job? Wow you really must have low standards for the companies you deal with. I guess you would feel safe to have your valuables in a bank where they store them in an unlocked box in the lobby? I mean they are not giving them away to criminals right? If someone happens to take them the bank can hardly be held responsible in any way right?
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