Is it just me or is there just a massive amount of users that use Kilik...... its starting to get me really angry. I use Yoshimitsu and when ever i face a kilik im just sigh. Why cant people use other chars other than one that can hit you across the f-ing screen.

Maybe because it requires no skill to win with him?...... But ye, I seem to play against either Kilik, Nightmare or Siegfried the most regular. Most people just use the same move over and over but the occasional person can play with them properly. Plus, if you go on the ranked matches then less people use those characters, plus the ones that do generally don't just spam the 'big sword swing' button :)

haha... at least you havnt meet people playing Cervantes or that bonus chick.
they just hold back + Y and B  (PS3 would be back +triangle and circle i think) and keep spamming.
cant wait for a patch like that.
maxi is my only defense for them because hes so fast

i'm a taki player. i really have no way to get past a spamming kilik offense with the moveset i have coupled with the latancy issues in online matches. if someone plays kilik i just put my controller down and poor me a glass of dr. pepper. they seem to get confused when my character doesn't get back up. its funny.

i like kilik but i dont mash with him i use his way harder combos but when im online i use maxi

Kilik is the business.

I don't think any more is necessary.

"i'm a taki player. i really have no way to get past a spamming kilik offense with the moveset i have coupled with the latancy issues in online matches. if someone plays kilik i just put my controller down and poor me a glass of dr. pepper. they seem to get confused when my character doesn't get back up. its funny."

he is easy like Sunday morning

If you're getting hit by Kilik across the screen you need to learn not to get hit by him across the screen. If he misses with his long range attacks he leaves himself open to easy counters. So keep a distance and see what move the player favours, and adapt accordingly. A majority of the Kilik players just know a few attacks, which are super easy to counter and evade.

Though I see your frustration. Unskilled Kilik players are just boring to fight, but if you're up one who knows how to use the character, then he's one of the most entertaining characters to fight.

Can't you fly over it as Yoshimitsu, and end the flying move with a pretty massive  unblockable attack?

"i'm a taki player. i really have no way to get past a spamming kilik offense with the moveset i have coupled with the latancy issues in online matches. if someone plays kilik i just put my controller down and poor me a glass of dr. pepper. they seem to get confused when my character doesn't get back up. its funny."

because people suck and it requires no effort to win as kilik, its pretty simple.

"because people suck and it requires no effort to win as kilik, its pretty simple."

"haha... at least you havnt meet people playing Cervantes or that bonus chick.
they just hold back + Y and B  (PS3 would be back +triangle and circle i think) and keep spamming.
cant wait for a patch like that.
maxi is my only defense for them because hes so fast"

isn't it because not only does he reach a mile away he;s also fast and powerful? i dunno i haven't played 4 yet but i';ve played the previous ones

I like Cassandra.  Her sword and appearance make you think that she doesn't have far reach.  But she has hella awesome reach.

"isn't it because not only does he reach a mile away he;s also fast and powerful? i dunno i haven't played 4 yet but i';ve played the previous ones"

Most characters have surpisingly long range moves if you take the time to learn them. For example the apprentices 22_88A makes him take a freaking huuuge step forward, and cassandra's 88_22B+K is a really good way to move in on a kilik player when they use a vertical move.

With Taki you can use her flips to land yourself right on top of kilik, and if you time it right, you land a kick to interrupt him. also, a well timed wind roll can also get you inside.

Kilik= button mashing noobs
Siegfried+ Nightmare= Newer people but still beatable
Cervantes= Mash Y until they win but I used to be a cervantes noob but stopped
Maxi= fast feels cheap but beatable
Yoda= Beatable but annoying
Apprentice= If good enough they can almost seem unbeatable
Astaroth= If he presses B and you cant get out of the infinite stun you lose period


They all made getting Hero King that much harder , frustrating and rewarding best achievement I have ever unlocked considering quitters, mashers, noobs. Thank you Namco for making some broken characters so I can get Hero King and be proud.

"Most characters have surpisingly long range moves if you take the time to learn them. For example the apprentices 22_88A makes him take a freaking huuuge step forward, and cassandra's 88_22B+K is a really good way to move in on a kilik player when they use a vertical move.

With Taki you can use her flips to land yourself right on top of kilik, and if you time it right, you land a kick to interrupt him. also, a well timed wind roll can also get you inside."

am i the only person who likes raphael?

Whenever I see anyone online use Kilik, I take out my "Kilik Sucks" character which is basically just a lady in a pink cat suit with a pink staff, and I almost always win.

Kilik users tend to use some button combination involving vertical attacks. Just sidestep and tear them apart. When they start using horizontal, just block. Kilik isn't really that fast and he leaves himself open for punishment if you have a fast character.

Whenever I fight a Kilik player, I combo the fuck out of them. They make me so angry.
Also, TC, why don't you use Yoshimitsu's variety of teleporting attacks? Tele-kangaroo kick always gets me.

I've recently taken to playing with Yoshimitsu and ye, works pretty well against most characters if you know his moves well enough.

My first online match was against a spamming kilik player. After that ranked match I never played another ranked one. I've never met a kilik in an unranked match and I've played around 30 matches.

Kilik is a safe character, with some pretty powerful, far-reaching attacks and a decent recovery time. He's perfect for new players, because he responds well to button mashing and his moves are easy to pull off.

If you are having trouble fighting him just sidestep a lot and try to stay at least mid range away, because his close-range horizontal comes out like lighting. When he tries to poke you or sweep you, sidestep or block/jump, then rush in and combo the daylights out of him.

I like Mitsurugi and Yoshimitsu.It's probably Kilik's long reach and high damage that attract people to that character,same with yoda,cause you cant high attack or thow him.And Starkilller is incredibly good same with Algol.But Kilik,yoda Starkiler and Algol are all cheap ass anyway

Simply put his weapons reach os the longest plus his got a fast tight fighting style and well his probably the best character to use for begginers to the core SC 4 gamers.

Kilik is so easy to beat. I can't believe so many people are having issues with him.

I found (for me) that the two anti-Kilik characters were Maxi and Taki, since they could dodge by his moves and then combo him like nobody's business. To a lesser extent, Siegfried also works, if only because he has a long range "poke" move (that, for some ungodly reason, a lot of Kilik players have extreme difficulty blocking).

God nothing annoys me more then online Kiliks
i mean i win against almost all of them but seriously i was playing c4 online today and i played like 7 kiliks in a row <_< where's the origionality.
i can usually close in and beat the crap out of him with amy but Some times i choose seigfried just to piss 'em off xDDD
what you should do is easy find some one faster with a good combo amy's <- Y B does the trick every time

  well THIS makes me sad. 
i was looking forward to making SCIV my first game when i went next gen (360 most likely, but who knows yet?), but now that i've found out i'm borderline monotonous in liking kilik i'm less eager. if i go online to prove my worth and everyone thinks i'm some miserable fanboy picking the "easy" character then what's the point? plus, kilik's got some tougher stuff. 
ah whatev. i'll still use kilik and i'll PROVE that i'm not just button-mashing to my opponents...so long as they don't act like little bitches and/or "  put [their] controller down and poor [them] a glass of dr. pepper." come on.   not every guy with a bo staff is just trying to vertical attack-mash his way to victory. some of us just like bo staffs and troubled pasts. and plus, i just don't like most other characters. 
 any thoughts for who deserves more attention though?