The only time I envy the PC gamer is when I remember that I can't play these games. If the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. (it is a pain in the ass to type that out by the way) series was on my platform of choice (Xbox 360) I would be at Best Buy this very instant. The fact of the matter is, that these games are not on consoles. My computer can't run Shadow of Chernobyl or Clear Sky and I have made a promise to myself, soley on principle, to no longer upgrade my computer to support more sophisticated games. The constant need to upgrade every two years, spending upwards of $1,500 is something that I find to be absurd and I have decided not to commit to. That's my choice, I know and this is the consequence. One that I am begrudgingly willing to accept.
But maybe the series may come to consoles? Has there been any talk of this? Or did I just seriously waste my own time? >.>
S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
A post-apocalyptic FPS series set in the area surrounding the Chernobyl accident site. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. stands for Scavengers, Trespassers, Adventurers, Loners, Killers, Explorers, and Robbers.
It pains me that I can't play these games. Are there port plans?
"you have a pc howd you type this message?"
That might have been one of the stupidest things I have ever had said to me.
"BiggerBomb said:"To be honest and off topic, It surprises even me how much nicer I am in real life. Then I remember people are a lot more stupid on the internet."You're not a good person, whatsoever. You realize that, right?
"
*Shakes head*
Anyone else?
Based on your contributions (a definite lackthereof) to this website, I will sleep soundly tonight knowing I am far and away more intelligent than you. I have the money to upgrade, but if you were smart enough to have any reading comprehension skills you would notice that I said I would not do so on principle. Thank you for ignoring my question.
So does anyone want to help me out without trying to insult me?
"Demilich said:I snickered."BiggerBomb said:"To be honest and off topic, It surprises even me how much nicer I am in real life. Then I remember people are a lot more stupid on the internet."You're not a good person, whatsoever. You realize that, right?
"
*Shakes head*
Anyone else?
Based on your contributions (a definite lackthereof) to this website, I will sleep soundly tonight knowing I am far and away more intelligent than you. I have the money to upgrade, but if you were smart enough to have any reading comprehension skills you would notice that I said I would not do so on principle. Thank you for ignoring my question.
So does anyone want to help me out without trying to insult me?"
"Inventory would be insanely complex/contrived/stupid on a controller
Supposedly the game is shit unless you mod it.
Aiming with controller, lol."
Look at Oblivion, Morrowind, or Mass Effect. All of these seem, on paper, to be too complex to be mapped on a controller; however, turned out to be brilliant in practice.
"BiggerBomb said:"Demilich said:I snickered.""BiggerBomb said:"To be honest and off topic, It surprises even me how much nicer I am in real life. Then I remember people are a lot more stupid on the internet."You're not a good person, whatsoever. You realize that, right?
"
*Shakes head*
Anyone else?
Based on your contributions (a definite lackthereof) to this website, I will sleep soundly tonight knowing I am far and away more intelligent than you. I have the money to upgrade, but if you were smart enough to have any reading comprehension skills you would notice that I said I would not do so on principle. Thank you for ignoring my question.
So does anyone want to help me out without trying to insult me?"
I'm sure an arrogant bastard like yourself, overcompensating for who knows what with a god complex, would snicker at that. I am not at all surprised.
"I am pretty sure there are no plans to ever, EVER port these games to console. If it happened it would be years down the line and no one would probably care...If you want to play these games you'll need to upgrade your PC (or get a new one)."
That's what I feared. Thanks for actually answering my question and not being a pompous prick like someone that need not be mentioned, though I guess that just comes with the territory.
"atejas said:..not really, those games have inventory functions built into a pause menu. STALKER inventory handling takes place in real-time, like SS2. If they make it pause while the inventory's up it could work...."Inventory would be insanely complex/contrived/stupid on a controller
Supposedly the game is shit unless you mod it.
Aiming with controller, lol."
Look at Oblivion, Morrowind, or Mass Effect. All of these seem, on paper, to be too complex to be mapped on a controller; however, turned out to be brilliant in practice."
Also, the PC is the easiest platform to code for, so unless THQ sponsors those Ukrainian guys to work on a console, I doubt it'd happen. Same reason you won't see a Witcher: console edition.
The weapon/powers inventory in Mass Effect is handled with an onscreen radial, it works really well. As for The Witcher, I loved that game. But the inventory is atrocious, I don't think that's the best example.
The PC arms race can be discouraging, but if you are willing to only be 85% of the way cutting edge and are also willing assemble the machine yourself, you can build a decently powerful gaming machine for under $800. Incremental upgrades a few years later for another couple hundred can make up a bit of the lag as well. I know that's still a lot of money and you have given up on principle, but I just wanted to make the clarification that prices are only as out of control as you let them be.
STALKER could someday come to consoles, but the game is very ye olde schoole pc in design approach. It punishes you harshly for making bad decisions and is honestly a bit anti-user at times. This extreme attitude makes it a risky port to a console space where it has to compete with other titles that have silky-smooth presentation.
Its a rad game though and I hope it gets a chance at that competition.
"So your PC can handle The Witcher, but not S.T.A.L.K.E.R.?The weapon/powers inventory in Mass Effect is handled with an onscreen radial, it works really well. As for The Witcher, I loved that game. But the inventory is atrocious, I don't think that's the best example.
"
"BiggerBomb said:"So your PC can handle The Witcher, but not S.T.A.L.K.E.R.?"The weapon/powers inventory in Mass Effect is handled with an onscreen radial, it works really well. As for The Witcher, I loved that game. But the inventory is atrocious, I don't think that's the best example.
"
Yes, yes it can. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. requires much higher specs than The Witcher, much higher.
"I could run it on max with my 7600GT, so maybe you're just doing it wrong."???
Shadow of Chernobyl or Clear sky?
My computer is practically at the reccomended specs for The Witcher, it does not even pass the minimum specs for S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
Intel Pentium 4 2.4GHz or AMD Athlon 64 +2800
1 GB RAM for Microsoft® Windows® XP / 1536 MB for Microsoft® Windows® Vista
128 MB Video RAM or greater with DirectX9 Vertex Shader/ Pixel Shader 2.0 support (NVIDIA GeForce 6600 or ATI Radeon 9800 or better)
STALKER Requirements:
AMD Athlon 64x2 4800+ or Intel Core 2 Duo
1Gb RAM, 3D Hardware Accelerator Card Required
256MB (Geforce 7800, for example).
Sources: Stalker, Witcher.
They're pretty damn close. If you can meet recommended for Witcher, you can meet minimum for STALKER.
I'm not on my computer, I'm on my mom's laptop, so I can't check. But I know, from the last time I looked (I haven't upgraded my computer since) that I can run The Witcher very well (I would know, I beat the game) and S.T.A.L.K.E.R. exceeds my minimum capacity.
"Witcher Requirements:Intel Pentium 4 2.4GHz or AMD Athlon 64 +2800
1 GB RAM for Microsoft® Windows® XP / 1536 MB for Microsoft® Windows® Vista
128 MB Video RAM or greater with DirectX9 Vertex Shader/ Pixel Shader 2.0 support (NVIDIA GeForce 6600 or ATI Radeon 9800 or better)
STALKER Requirements:
AMD Athlon 64x2 4800+ or Intel Core 2 Duo
1Gb RAM, 3D Hardware Accelerator Card Required
256MB (Geforce 7800, for example).
Sources: Stalker, Witcher.
They're pretty damn close. If you can meet recommended for Witcher, you can meet minimum for STALKER."
You are right! You proved him wrong with facts! He can now run the game and his problem is solved!
You continue to spread joy in your wake, Dear Mangod.
"Demilich said:You misinterpret my intentions sir."Witcher Requirements:Intel Pentium 4 2.4GHz or AMD Athlon 64 +2800
1 GB RAM for Microsoft® Windows® XP / 1536 MB for Microsoft® Windows® Vista
128 MB Video RAM or greater with DirectX9 Vertex Shader/ Pixel Shader 2.0 support (NVIDIA GeForce 6600 or ATI Radeon 9800 or better)
STALKER Requirements:
AMD Athlon 64x2 4800+ or Intel Core 2 Duo
1Gb RAM, 3D Hardware Accelerator Card Required
256MB (Geforce 7800, for example).
Sources: Stalker, Witcher.
They're pretty damn close. If you can meet recommended for Witcher, you can meet minimum for STALKER."
You are right! You proved him wrong with facts! He can now run the game and his problem is solved!
You continue to spread joy in your wake, Dear Mangod."
"Jesus Christ, don't ever go worshiping Jerry Seinfeld. What's wrong with you."
Seriously, the guy isn't at all funny. All he does is yell, shrug, and wait for Kramer to bash his door in hopped up on cocaine.
BiggerBomb, I haven't played Witcher, but if you can run the Witcher, you will be able to run STALKER. Now, the graphics may suck, and the framerate not that great, but it'll run.
My specs:
P4 2.8 GHZ
512 MB Ram
128 MB X300 SE
I can play at minimum settings with a framerate of 30-35.
What are your specs?
Also, keep in mind that the min requirements is not the end all qualification for running a game. Things like RAM and Graphics RAM, unless there is a check in there to make sure you have the requirements or the game won't run, then you will be able to run the game. There are only certain things that YOU HAVE TO HAVE in order to run the game - for instance, Shader Model 3 support.
My minimum specs simply do not cover it. Even if that doesn't mean I can't play the game, it isn't worth it at that point.
You don't need to upgrade every two years and it definetly doesn't cost $1500 becaues if it did, I wouldn't be PC gaming. Get your facts straight with the prices before you go saying how PC gaming is absurdly expensive. You could buy a computer right now for $800 and it would run any game for the next 4 years and you wouldn't have to upgrade unless you wanted to.
"You don't need to upgrade every two years and it definetly doesn't cost $1500 becaues if it did, I wouldn't be PC gaming. Get your facts straight with the prices before you go saying how PC gaming is absurdly expensive. You could buy a computer right now for $800 and it would run any game for the next 4 years and you wouldn't have to upgrade unless you wanted to."
Someone's grumpy.
It is absurdly expensive, maybe I didn't nail down the cost correctly.
Good gaming PC = $800 - $2,000 (Average it out at $1,000)
Average required upgrade over time = $200 - $400. (Average it out at $300.)
Average game generation span - 5-6 years. Let's go with 5. (Two upgrades over the course of 4 years)
$1,000 + $300(4) = $2,200.
Xbox 360 = $400.
$2,200 > $400.
I am not criticizing PC gamers, I am saying that PC gaming is very expensive.
"BiggerBomb said:I'm not on my computer. But I assure you, I have run the specs. If you want, when I get to my computer later I will put them up here."My minimum specs simply do not cover it. Even if that doesn't mean I can't play the game, it isn't worth it at that point."What are your specs?
"
"But MY electronic fun machine needs validation!
Mommy didn't hug me enough :("
Who was that directed at? I'm no fan boy! D:
"Trilvester said:Ok, let's debunk this:"You don't need to upgrade every two years and it definetly doesn't cost $1500 becaues if it did, I wouldn't be PC gaming. Get your facts straight with the prices before you go saying how PC gaming is absurdly expensive. You could buy a computer right now for $800 and it would run any game for the next 4 years and you wouldn't have to upgrade unless you wanted to."
Someone's grumpy.
It is absurdly expensive, maybe I didn't nail down the cost correctly.
Good gaming PC = $800 - $2,000 (Average it out at $1,000)
Average required upgrade over time = $200 - $400. (Average it out at $300.)
Average game generation span - 5-6 years. Let's go with 5. (Two upgrades over the course of 4 years)
$1,000 + $300(4) = $2,200.
Xbox 360 = $400.
$2,200 > $400.
I am not criticizing PC gamers, I am saying that PC gaming is very expensive."
$1000 is a reasonable price for a gaming PC. That's good.
But I do not believe you need 2 upgrades over the course of 4 years unless you want to play at 2500 x 1600 for all games.
Also, you discount the fact that you need to pay for your TV - and just like your TV has other uses, so does your computer. This is the fundamental flaw in all computer gaming is expensive arguments.
Lets take how much extra it costs to game in reference to what you already have:
You already have a TV, so it costs $400 to get a 360.
You already have a PC - most Dell and HP PCs come with a good processor and 2 GB of RAM. All you need to add is a graphics card. A good graphics card is only $200. If you want something to last 6 years, then you can spend up to $400. Processors and RAM do not generally get oudated as fast as graphics card, but you still have plenty of working room if you do need to upgrade them. For $100 you can upgrade at the 3 year mark.
Therefore the difference in cost is negligible.
Alright, let's say you upgrade once over the course of two years.
$1,200 + $50 (Let's go with 6 games?) = $1,500.
Xbox 360 = $400
HDTV= $700
+_____________
$1,100
$60(6)
+_____
$1,460. That is a small difference not even worth mentioning, however, subtract the HDTV from the equation and you have
$760. Why subract the TV? TV's cross generations, I do not need a new one to play new games. My TV will last me from now until nearly the end of next generation.
I'm not talking shit to PC gamers, I'm saying it is more expensive and inconvienent than I feel is necessary. On top of that, I prefer console gaming.
/shrug
BiggerBomb said:
"Alright, let's say you upgrade once over the course of four years.
Fixed that, I'm having problems editing my posts.
"Alright, let's say you upgrade once over the course of two years.But you can't compare the 360 and the PC without taking into consideration that you use a PC for much more - word processing, internet, work, school, chatting, social networking, etc. etc.
$1,200 + $50 (Let's go with 6 games?) = $1,500.
Xbox 360 = $400
HDTV= $700
+_____________
$1,100
$60(6)
+_____
$1,460. That is a small difference not even worth mentioning, however, subtract the HDTV from the equation and you have
$760. Why subract the TV? TV's cross generations, I do not need a new one to play new games. My TV will last me from now until nearly the end of next generation.
I'm not talking shit to PC gamers, I'm saying it is more expensive and inconvienent than I feel is necessary. On top of that, I prefer console gaming.
/shrug"
What about my calculation above - the one in which I did not count the TV, just as you did, and I did not count the computer you inevitably already have, and because most people buy Dells or HPs, I took into account their average requirements.
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