Stars Wars The Force Unleashed Fans Petition

#1 Posted by Jeust (10804 posts) -

Well since petition are in the order of the day, and the unrightful policy by Lucas Arts, i came across one about the Star Wars TFU Infinities storyline. 
 
If you agree that this is a explotation of the star wars fans and you feel it too, sign it.  
 
We have to protect costumers' rights... or this will go on and on and on. 
 
http://www.petitiononline.com/swis1166/petition.html

#2 Posted by jkz (4049 posts) -
@Jeust said:
" Well since petition are in the order of the day, and the unrightful policy by Lucas Arts, i came across one about the Star Wars TFU Infinities storyline. 
 
If you agree that this is a explotation of the star wars fans and you feel it too, sign it.  
 
We have to protect costumers' rights... or this will go on and on and on. 
 
http://www.petitiononline.com/swis1166/petition.html "
....what?
#3 Posted by Jeust (10804 posts) -

It's about the second part of the Infinities storyline - the first one will come as a dlc -, aka the second new level that is comming out, is only available in the Sith Edition retail version.  
 
So a fan that already has the game and the dlc, has to buy it again in order to play the completed infinities story. 

#4 Posted by Lies (3868 posts) -

online petitions
 
lol

#5 Posted by Bulldog19892 (1795 posts) -
@Lies said:
" online petitions  lol "
My sentiments exactly.
#6 Posted by Jeust (10804 posts) -
@Lies said:
" online petitions  lol "
yeah... but at least can unite, even for a little bit, the consumers. 
 
In that it is worthwhile.
#7 Posted by Scooper (7881 posts) -

It says right there in the petition "Wait for the second part to be made available as a dlc. It will most probably be after a while."
 
Why don't you just do that and not buy the whole game again?

#8 Edited by Jeust (10804 posts) -

yeah that's what i'll do :) 
 
But the predicment is the one mentioned above... 

#9 Posted by Genkkaku (738 posts) -
@Jeust said:
"So a fan that already has the game and the dlc, has to buy it again in order to play the completed infinities story.  "
I'm in the same position
#10 Posted by TheGremp (2064 posts) -

...Huh?

#11 Posted by Jeust (10804 posts) -
@Genkkaku said:
" @Jeust said:
"So a fan that already has the game and the dlc, has to buy it again in order to play the completed infinities story.  "
I'm in the same position "
You're not the only one...  
 
If you wish you can sign the petition. 
 
Cheers
#12 Posted by 71Ranchero (2794 posts) -

This is how the world works these days. Lucas isn't holding a gun on you to buy the new version so you have no standing. The days when everything was available to everyone are gone. Just look at music for example, to get a complete album you almost have to buy 3 copys of a cd just to get the full tracklist. 1 from Itunes, 1 from Retail, and 1 import. Just dont buy it and get on with life.
 
 
Btw, petitions = lol.

#13 Posted by Jeust (10804 posts) -
@Atramentous said:
" This is how the world works these days. Lucas isn't holding a gun on you to buy the new version so you have no standing. The days when everything was available to everyone are gone. Just look at music for example, to get a complete album you almost have to buy 3 copys of a cd just to get the full tracklist. 1 from Itunes, 1 from Retail, and 1 import. Just dont buy it and get on with life.  Btw, petitions = lol. "
First of all, if you like that situation it is in your own right.
 
I don't! And i feel cheated, to be put in such a place where if i want to play two new levels i have to pay at least 40$!  
 
And if we, the consumers, don't work together things will get crazier, as they already have. So if you like the present state of affairs, by all means do nothing! 
#14 Posted by Bubahula (2197 posts) -

..... what?

#15 Edited by 71Ranchero (2794 posts) -
@Jeust said:

" @Atramentous said:

" This is how the world works these days. Lucas isn't holding a gun on you to buy the new version so you have no standing. The days when everything was available to everyone are gone. Just look at music for example, to get a complete album you almost have to buy 3 copys of a cd just to get the full tracklist. 1 from Itunes, 1 from Retail, and 1 import. Just dont buy it and get on with life.  Btw, petitions = lol. "
First of all, if you like that situation it is in your own right. I don't! And i feel cheated, to be put in such a place where if i want to play two new levels i have to pay at least 40$!   And if we, the consumers, don't work together things will get crazier, as they already have. So if you like the present state of affairs, by all means do nothing!  "
I didn't say I liked it, I do however understand that your methods wont change anything. They wont even result in an internal memo at the studio. Getting over it and moving on is your best bet in this case. You wont solve anything by petitioning on the internet. Thats the least affective way to bring about change, hell you may as well just twiddle your thumbs because you will get the same result.
#16 Posted by TheHBK (5546 posts) -

nice reponses, guys who just say online petitions = lol
I guess any petition in paper is retarded too, since you can just sign any name there too.
I do think they will make it available as DLC and in the quick look Jeff says as much.  But remember, this is business and its the way that lucasarts thinks it can make the most money.

#17 Posted by mhkjtha (429 posts) -

lucasarts are making a dick move right there

#18 Edited by Jeust (10804 posts) -
@Atramentous:  
 
I know... but the same was said of sindicalism in the beginning, and it got recognition afterwards. 
 
The thing is: if people don't band together on one way or another, things will get worse, as they already have. 
 
And in this case the objective of this petition it's not in signing it and sending it to Lucas Arts, but in the agreement that a person won't by the new Ultimate Sith Edition.
#19 Posted by ArchScabby (5809 posts) -

This is one of the wost petitions I have ever seen.  My niece can spell better than the guy who wrote it, and she can't write.  Not to mention I fail to see anything wrong with them selling an expansion pack.  People need to grow up, they don't deserve anything from these companies, and sure as hell don't deserve stuff for free when they act like whiney little bitches on the internet.

#20 Posted by eroticfishcake (7787 posts) -

I probably should mention that the last time a petition was proposed on the forums it was locked since, well, they never work. Not that I disagree with it but I've never seen an online petition do anything at all.

#21 Edited by Jeust (10804 posts) -
@ArchScabby said:

" This is one of the wost petitions I have ever seen.  My niece can spell better than the guy who wrote it, and she can't write.  Not to mention I fail to see anything wrong with them selling an expansion pack.  People need to grow up, they don't deserve anything from these companies, and sure as hell don't deserve stuff for free when they act like whiney little bitches on the internet. "

First of all read the whole petition and try to understand it before speaking your mind. 
 
Second of all the Ultimate Sith Edition isn't any expansion pack. It's the same game, with the same addons a person who bought the game and the dlcs has, with one new dlc - one level- for the total price of 40$. 
 
This petition isn't for people who don't even care to understand it.
#22 Posted by ArchScabby (5809 posts) -
@Jeust said:
" @ArchScabby said:

" This is one of the wost petitions I have ever seen.  My niece can spell better than the guy who wrote it, and she can't write.  Not to mention I fail to see anything wrong with them selling an expansion pack.  People need to grow up, they don't deserve anything from these companies, and sure as hell don't deserve stuff for free when they act like whiney little bitches on the internet. "

First of all read the whole petition and try to understand it before speaking your mind. 
 
Second of all the Ultimate Sith Edition isn't any expansion pack. It's the same game, with the same addons a person who bought the game and the dlcs has, with one new dlc - one level- for the total price of 40$.  This petition isn't for people who don't even care to understand it. "
Well if it's only one new level if you don't  buy it you obviously aren't missing much are you?  Stop complaining.
#23 Posted by Green_Incarnate (1791 posts) -

What is this force unleashed you speak of?

*Continues playing Jedi Academy.

#24 Edited by Jeust (10804 posts) -
@ArchScabby said:

" @Jeust said:

" @ArchScabby said:

" This is one of the wost petitions I have ever seen.  My niece can spell better than the guy who wrote it, and she can't write.  Not to mention I fail to see anything wrong with them selling an expansion pack.  People need to grow up, they don't deserve anything from these companies, and sure as hell don't deserve stuff for free when they act like whiney little bitches on the internet. "

First of all read the whole petition and try to understand it before speaking your mind. 
 
Second of all the Ultimate Sith Edition isn't any expansion pack. It's the same game, with the same addons a person who bought the game and the dlcs has, with one new dlc - one level- for the total price of 40$.  This petition isn't for people who don't even care to understand it. "
Well if it's only one new level if you don't  buy it you obviously aren't missing much are you?  Stop complaining. "
It's the principle that matters.  
 
Ripping off clients 40$ for one level is low. 
 
And i care.
#25 Posted by Feser (543 posts) -

I am curious - how do petitions work? Since the people who care enough to sign an obscure internet petition also care too much to not to buy said game.

#26 Posted by Breadfan (6590 posts) -

This is really getting out of hand.

#27 Edited by Jeust (10804 posts) -
@Feser said:

" I am curious - how do petitions work? Since the people who care enough to sign an obscure internet petition also care too much to not to buy said game. "

read the obscure internet petition then.
#28 Posted by EvilTwin (3324 posts) -
@mhkjtha said:
" lucasarts are making a dick move right there "
Yeah, I came in here to roll my eyes but this is kind of a capital D dick move.  Not that I think the petition will have much effect, but good luck.
#29 Posted by Feser (543 posts) -
@Jeust:
I think you are confusing me for someone that cares. 
Good luck with the petition, though,I was only noticing something which any company thinks about when faced with a petition - this is nonbinding, obscure, irrelevant, and probably will not affect sales.
#30 Posted by jakob187 (21728 posts) -

Everything is available on the Ultimate Sith Edition, which also happens to include ALL the previous DLC.  I mean, if we're going to have a petition for this nonsense, let's go ahead and start one for Fallout 3 GOTY. 
 
People are getting too damn crazy about post-release materials for games.

#31 Edited by Jeust (10804 posts) -
@Feser said:

" @Jeust: I think you are confusing me for someone that cares. Good luck with the petition, though,I was only noticing something which any company thinks about when faced with a petition - this is nonbinding, obscure, irrelevant, and probably will not affect sales. "

I didn't, that's why i said to you to read it. If you were really interest you would, saying anything else would be irrelevant.  
 
It maybe do as you think or maybe not. You don't know anything unless you try isn't it? You can only predict it...  
 
And if people don't buy the ultimate sith edition it can effect sales. 
 
 
@jakob187 said:

" Everything is available on the Ultimate Sith Edition, which also happens to include ALL the previous DLC.  I mean, if we're going to have a petition for this nonsense, let's go ahead and start one for Fallout 3 GOTY.  People are getting too damn crazy about post-release materials for games. "

It isn't true!  
 
The last patch isn't available to any person unless they spend 40$ on the ultimate edition, which has all other stuff on the xbl and psn. So you're technically buying everything again for the sake of the last dlc that completes the Infinities story - hoth.  
 
Before answering you should get all the information.
#32 Posted by Willy105 (4691 posts) -

Wait what?
 
What is the petition against? I don''t understand.

#33 Posted by EvilTwin (3324 posts) -
@Willy105 said:
" Wait what?  What is the petition against? I don''t understand. "
As far as I can tell, there was DLC for TFU that started some sort of subplot and the only way to see it through to its conclusion is to buy this new disk with both pieces of extra content on it.  As opposed to just offering the second piece as DLC for the people who already bought the full retail version as well as the first piece of DLC.
#34 Posted by Systech (4078 posts) -

I ain't going to do shit.

#35 Posted by Willy105 (4691 posts) -
@EvilTwin said:
" @Willy105 said:
" Wait what?  What is the petition against? I don''t understand. "
As far as I can tell, there was DLC for TFU that started some sort of subplot and the only way to see it through to its conclusion is to buy this new disk with both pieces of extra content on it.  As opposed to just offering the second piece as DLC for the people who already bought the full retail version as well as the first piece of DLC. "
Ah yes.
 
The conclusion of the TFU storyark with Starkiller killing Luke and therefore killing the happy ending to the good side. and completing the Emperor's plan.
 
Kinda anticlimactic when you only get to see up to Obi Wan dying with only the original game.
#36 Posted by ArbitraryWater (11991 posts) -

So basically you want the Hoth level available as DLC to the masses so they don't have to buy the Ultimate Sith Edition. Meh. It's not worth writing a petition about, unless you somehow want to play another 1-2 hours of The Force Unleashed for $10, which is what they would probably charge if it came out.

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#37 Edited by MrCynical (66 posts) -
@jakob187 said:

" Everything is available on the Ultimate Sith Edition, which also happens to include ALL the previous DLC.  I mean, if we're going to have a petition for this nonsense, let's go ahead and start one for Fallout 3 GOTY.  People are getting too damn crazy about post-release materials for games. "

The situation isn't the same as Fallout 3. With that game's GOTY edition, you had the ability to buy all the content separately as DLC (ie if you bought the game at or near release time you didn't need to re-buy the game to access the additional content). That is the key objection to TFU: there is no option to buy the third extra level other than to buy another retail copy of the game. It can also be distinguished from extra levels in 'special editions' of games at launch (e.g. the extra levels in the 'Black Edition' of Assassin's Creed II) because those give people a straight choice: they can either buy the version with the extra content, or buy the version without it.
 
EDIT: I'm not one of the out-and-out haters on this by the way. I don't agree with the decision, but nor am I about to start an internet petition about it. On purely financial terms, it isn't actually that bad a deal. The Ultimate Sith Edition includes:
  • Both skin packs (2x400MSP = 800MSP)
  • The Jedi Temple mission (800MSP)
  • The Tatooine mission (800MSP)
  • The Hoth mission (which, although it is not sold separately, I think we can fairly describe as being worth 800MSP)
 
This comes to a grand total of 3200MSP, which converts to £27.20 GBP / $39.98 USD. So in other words, if you can get Ultimate Sith Edition for that price or less then you effectively are not paying for the original game again.
#38 Posted by Andorski (5351 posts) -

Yea... just don't buy The Ultimate Sith Edition if you think the way the product is packaged is a rip-off.  These Star Wars fans don't have a right to get the new content.  They do have freedom to not buy that piece of crap though.
 
So just walk away.

#39 Edited by Jeust (10804 posts) -
@MrCynical:  
 
I agree with you, except in the fact that i haven't heard that the skin packs would be included in the Sith Edition. 
 
But all and all this isn't a good offer and it's blantant ripoff of the fans that got all the game and the dlcs before this Infinities dlcs.  
 
But all and all the dlcs doesn't even seem good enough to be remembered lol
#40 Posted by nrain (1274 posts) -

A petition about an average game, when will it end?

#41 Posted by wwfundertaker (1404 posts) -
@jukezypoo said:
" @Jeust said:
" Well since petition are in the order of the day, and the unrightful policy by Lucas Arts, i came across one about the Star Wars TFU Infinities storyline. 
 
If you agree that this is a explotation of the star wars fans and you feel it too, sign it.  
 
We have to protect costumers' rights... or this will go on and on and on. 
 
http://www.petitiononline.com/swis1166/petition.html "
....what? "
What?????????

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