Here's a great posting tip.  Never, ever, start a thread with "Am I the only one...?"  No, you aren't.  I don't even care what you're going to ask, the answer is no.

Edit:  On the subject of the Old Republic.  As much as I love Bioware, I have no faith in their MMO.  I don't think they "get" MMOs.

Other thing about Cartoon graphics is when you do that, it suddenly becomes more accessible to a wider audience. There's cartoons made for kids (Spongebob) and there's cartoons made for adults (Family Guy, The Simpsons etc.) But at the end of the day they are all still cartoons.

" Here's a great posting tip.  Never, ever, start a thread with "Am I the only one...?"  No, you aren't.  I don't even care what you're going to ask, the answer is no.Edit:  On the subject of the Old Republic.  As much as I love Bioware, I have no faith in their MMO.  I don't think they "get" MMOs. "

" @EvilTwin said:

" Here's a great posting tip.  Never, ever, start a thread with "Am I the only one...?"  No, you aren't.  I don't even care what you're going to ask, the answer is no.Edit:  On the subject of the Old Republic.  As much as I love Bioware, I have no faith in their MMO.  I don't think they "get" MMOs. "

well since basically every MMO in history has sucked, maybe with them not "getting" it they will actually make a good one. "

I have been in love with KOTOR since i played it on the xbox . Amazing games . So i foresee great things from this project .

These threads are stellar.

Excuse me, I have a safehouse to shoot up. Ahahahahahahahahahahaha

The running joke around here is that I get teased when I play the Kotor games. There have been times when I was talked down from throwing the one dvd I have of a SW(one of the newer movies) movie into the street :P That said, the fact that Kotor was able to make me enjoy such a silly concept(to me) is amazing and goes to show that the game itself is good enough. If This mmo is atleast on par with Kotor I will be playing it. Im sure my buddies will get a kick out of me leveling a SW toon in an MMO =)

Having now watched the whole video, I want to know what class the main character in the video is because I laughed my fucking ass off at EVERY SINGLE ONE OF HIS LINES. Star Wars with a cheesy 80s action hero as the star is amazing, and I want more.

"@PapaLazarou: Guess what? Cartoon graphics last longer than realistic ones. Compare Banjo Kazooie to Goldeneye, which one looks better? Banjo obviously because the cartoon look is timeless, and that's what you want with an mmo. If you had realistic characters with low polies, in a couple of years it's not going to look good."

Don't buy it?

You never liked KOTOR

You never liked Bioware

You expected to like SWTOR...riiiiight.

It may not be the "BEST" looking game, but considering its an MMO they aren't going to go for super realism because it wouldn't reach the audience they are hoping to reach.

Bioware hasn't really made a bad game yet, right?  Even that Sonic RPG was pretty decent...especially when compared to Sonic's other fodder from the last...I don't know...DECADE!

What is there to complain about. Someone's actualy having a good go at doing something we haven't seen alot of before and instantly they get bashed. What, you want another SWG? Ok, well play that then because all you've done is ranted about how you don't like TOR.

I think it looks great. Serious, gritty games always look shit and boring after a couple years and because of it less people will continue to join and play, if you have a cartoony style it lasts many many years longer as people will continue to be drawn to it. Also, just because it looks cartoony doesn't mean it can't have a serious story or locations, you've just got to put yourself in that universe and then you can take it as seriously as you like.

When I first saw TOR my immediate reaction was "it's WOW in space." However, I got to thinking that visually the game looks alright and this Bioware. They make great stuff! So maybe this won't be WOW in space and maybe this won't be another MMO built on the tried and true and now tired formula we have had for the last decade and then I started to get excited. Then EA merged the Mythic guys in to "assist with development" and all hope and enthusiasm I had for the game died.

SWTOR could have looked like LOTRO all nice and shiny with DX10 effects and high resolution textures, but with the amount of content you will be getting from swtor, that version of the game would have to sell with a bundled harddrive

We seen a few seconds of gameplay footage...and what are you talking about dumb it down for console tards? It's not even coming out on consoles.  And it's clear to me you don't even like MMOs or the combat that goes with MMOs, so why even post? All of your "complaints" are just ridiculous.

Additionally, nothing says that they are ignoring the multiplayer aspects of the game, all that has been highlighted is that the game will try and involve players in new ways by personalizing the quests so that the game has the depth of a single player game.  In Warcraft, after a while, no one even bothers reading the quests.  They just scan for how many items need to be collected or how many mobs need to be killed.  Bioware is trying to interject some motivation for players to care about the world and the direction that it's taking, not just gearing up for the biggest endgame raids.

I'm not a huge fan of the graphic style, but it looks OK.  Better than most MMO's, at least.

They seem to be going for a different style of MMO in terms of gameplay though, and that's what attracts me to it.  Instead of it being a generic WoW type affair, it plays like a single player game for the most part, but at key moments you'll be able to group together with other players for large scale battles, etc.  I believe the way they described it was like in Episode V.  All the main characters are around at the begining for the battle at Hoth, but after that they all split off and have their own seperate stories..  Luke goes off to Dagobah, etc, etc.

The only thing that worries me about it, would be the monthly fee.  I don't particularly fancy the idea of having to pay so much each month for just one game, no matter how good it is.  It seems a lot of these upcomming MMO's are trying new kinds of payment methods though, and it seems Old Republic will too...  So I'm definitely interested, but at $15 a month, no thanks.

Whats up with the animations? Whats up with the plastic emo hair? The combat looks too animation heavy like KoToR which means you'll be standing still with autofacing which means PVP will be an after thought. Whats up with the proportions of the character models? It looks like they got the limbs of a Spider and stuck them on a human.

" @TheMustacheHero said:

" Other thing about Cartoon graphics is when you do that, it suddenly becomes more accessible to a wider audience. There's cartoons made for kids (Spongebob) and there's cartoons made for adults (Family Guy, The Simpsons etc.) But at the end of the day they are all still cartoons. "

The Simpsons is NOT for adults. ¬_¬"

Why is it whenever someone talks about this game's graphics, they go into how it's all "childish" and "kiddie cartoons" and how they think Star Wars should be "mature and gritty?"  Star Wars has always been about reaching people of all ages, from different cultures.  That, and this game takes place in a time before the universe got what you considered to be "gritty" (although, I have to say, gritty looks pretty colorful from a Star Wars perspective, then).

I don't like the fact that they're watering down the graphics to WoW-style blocky cartoons just so that it runs better on older machines. It's 2010, there's no excuse to be gaming on anything less than a dual core processor or a GeForce 200 or better series GPU.

" I don't like the fact that they're watering down the graphics to WoW-style blocky cartoons just so that it runs better on older machines. It's 2010, there's no excuse to be gaming on anything less than a dual core processor or a GeForce 200 or better series GPU. "

Stylistic is fine, also it helps with performance.  Would you rather play something that runs smooth or something that your computer can't run on a daily basis?

Dudes, why did you necro this rant thread?

As rants go, it was pretty good.

Boy, you seem like you might be way too picky. Yes, KOTOR's combat was a bit janky, and yes, SWTOR doesn't look like it has the best graphics on earth (it is an MMO, which are always turned down a bit visually), but for Christ's sake, focus on some of the positive. Personally, I don't see how you can possibly be such a die-hard, purist Star Wars fanatic and hate KOTOR. That game was great for anyone, but for a Star Wars nerd, it was uncut, unadulterated bliss. Yeah, it had some technical issues, some physics bugs, and the combat could get a bit sloppy at times, but I think the time has long since come when games need to be looked at as more than just pieces of tech. They're not DVD-ripping software, they're multi-tiered, interactive experiences with the potential to compel, convey, and elicit the full veil of artistic experience. KOTOR's issues weren't nearly bad enough to detract from the overall quality of the game. Plus, if you're jonesing for a Star Wars fix, there you go. I thought the story in KOTOR was easily better than any of the prequels and on par with the originals (not quite as good, but worthy).  Give these games a chance, man.

" Dudes, why did you necro this rant thread? "

" ARGGGGG!!!!!!!! ME FAN BOY UGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! NO TALK BAD ABOUT SWTOR!!!!! I USE CAPS LOCK TO CONVEY ANGER. "

Once I saw that lightsabers don't cut people in half, I decided that game wasn't for me.

I like reading... I didn't care to read your thread though. The first few sentences sounded horrible. Just type as if you were talking to someone in person, and know how to use punctuation (although I'm not perfect). Still though, I'm just going get off this thread here... Oh, one more thing. Instead of wondering if you're the only one who thinks that game is crap, think "Does my opinion really matter to anyone enough to write all this down?" because usually when it comes to one person saying they don’t like a game that another does, what’s written won’t appeal since it won’t change their opinion towards the game, or what have you.    

I like reading... I didn't care to read your thread though. The first few sentences sounded horrible. Just type as if you were talking to someone in person, and know how to use punctuation (although I'm not perfect). Still though, I'm just going get off this thread here... Oh, one more thing. Instead of wondering if you're the only one who thinks that game is crap, think "Does my opinion really matter to anyone enough to write all this down?" because usually when it comes to one person saying they don’t like a game that another does, what’s written won’t appeal since it won’t change their opinion towards the game, or what have you.    

I enjoy the art style for its simplicity. In a game the graphics are an added bonus but it all boils down to gameplay and story, especially in this case.

Look's like any other MMO, but with exception of being star wars which automatically makes it better.

" Look's like any other MMO, but with exception of being star wars which automatically makes it better. "

" @SSbabel said:

" Look's like any other MMO, but with exception of being star wars which automatically makes it better. "

Point me in the direction of an MMO that has good and evil meters, full dialogue for both single player and party play for every NPC. Please. Do it. "

KOTOR MMO? Terrible. Never need bother looking at this again. Moving on.
 
<---- This dude's attitude upon hearing about this game