I've been thinking about the Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (KOTOR) games. KOTOR is probably my all time favorite game and I had a blast with KOTOR II, as well. I've been visiting www.swtor.com lately and the community is shockingly pleasant, not to mention what little of the game has been shown looks pretty sweet. That said, can the promises of Bioware be delivered? Will we really see a KOTOR MMO rather than an MMO in the KOTOR universe? Will Star Wars: The Old Republic be a worthy successor to the traditional Knights of the Old Republic format?

I don't know and I'm not sure if this is what I want. How about you?

No I HATE MMO's specially since this will have a monthly fee and i dont feel like paying that, I want an regular rpg dammit.

Is it KOTOR III? Have they said it's the next in the line of KOTOR games?

"Is it KOTOR III? Have they said it's the next in the line of KOTOR games?"

I would much rather see a regular KOTOR III, that said, I can still see this turning out really well.

Don't care, I hated KOTOR.

Yes, I'm prepared to die.

I don't see this game as KOTOR III - it may be the spiritual successor to the KOTOR games, and it may even be in the KOTOR franchise, but it's certainly no KOTOR III.

Those are two very different questions. Yes, it is the next game in the series; as in, this is the successor to the series. But this might not be KOTOR III, per say. That's irrelevant, though. My point is that they are making SWTOR instead of KOTOR III, right now, and that's something that may not settle well in the hearts of gamers and KOTOR fans alike."

By the way, isn't this going to be micro-transaction based? I think I can live with that if the game is at least OK."

I'm could be wrong, but if I remember correctly BioWare no longer has access to the KOTOR license.  Obsidian (KOTOR 2) owns the rights to both Star Wars d20 and The Forgotten Realms, both of which they received from BioWare.  This would make a non-KOTOR, non-d20 RPG their only option, which means why the hell shouldn't this be an MMO?

Yes, I just hope my laptop can run it. If I want a single-player Bioware game in the vain of the original KoTOR I'll play Mass Effect, but if I wanna feel like I matter in a Star Wars universe then this is what I want.

maybe. not so sure. seems good now, but i dont want to become a wow bitch who weighs 1000 pounds and has no friends

I think it's a bit early to judge, seeing as we've been shown so little. But I really would have preferred a traditional, single-player KOTOR RPG as opposed to an MMO. I think Bioware can do the license justice, but I'm not sure if it's something I'll be interested in.

I didn't like KOTOR, so I don't really care. If I were a big fan, though, I'd probably be pissed.

"No I HATE MMO's specially since this will have a monthly fee and i dont feel like paying that, I want an regular rpg dammit."

No.

I'm surprised how close the poll tallies are. 

In any case, no, it's not a KotOR entry.  It's in the same continuum, sure, but it's not direct lineage. 

Regardless, this isn't going to affect me.  I habitually avoid MMO's, so I won't shell out the cash for this game anyhow. 

here is my 2 cents:

first off most MMO's have been failing for many reasons .... but we all have a few of those reasons in mind and no need to get into it right now.
second I think steps in the MMO direction would be better; like coop storyline campaign would do well to work on the team work aspect of multiplayer in the star wars universe
third increase the size of the coop campaign to more the 4  clients like double the number 8 . Left 4 dead is a great 8 player versus however limited in content. yet still has 8 clients connected with lots of zombies on screen.

my main point is more then on client  fighting together while the game tells a story. Coop campaign

If it's the cookie cutter Everquest/Warcraft MMO? Then hell no. If it does what vanilla SWG did with the MMO genre then yes.

Not really.  Cause  MMORPGs are just pointless.  The original KOTOR and KOTOR2 were really great games and now that bioware wants to turn it into somthing pointless....well to me thats just sad.  I don't want to have to pay for a game that I know will be about the same thing as star wars galaxies.  And that game was just about as pointless as WOW (World Of Warcraft).

I don't like MMOs, but if there's one that could MAYBE win me over it's KOTOR.

But I doubt it.

I'm not quite pleased. I think it would have been a better move to have made it an Xbox 360 MMO. Let's face it, there's a lot of gamers like myself who only play on consoles and have never really had anything to push us into playing MMO games. Dude, KOTOR3 could have changed that. If it was an MMO on 360, it would be the first MMO I would ever play, and I'm sure I'm not alone in this. Or... it could have been an all new Star Wars MMO completely, leaving KOTOR3 to be a console RPG like the previous games.

Simple answer NO, Just give me some regular KotOR III please.

YES!
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They've still never said a Kotor 3 wasn't happening. This is indeed not Kotor 3 though. Am I happy their next star ways KOTOR game , is an mmo? I feel like like it could be really awesome since I have faith in Bioware, but at the same time, they've never done an mmo, and having LucasArts help them doesn't help it either in my eyes. I want to say what I've heard about the Kotor MMO, sounds pretty awesome. However, the only things said so far, that make it sound really good, are just concept at this point. I doubt, nearly 100%, any of that is in the game atm, or if they have any idea yet on how to get their ideas and things they've stated publicly, that the mmo would have in the game at all.

I of course want to believe it, and I'm really looking forward to it, and just hearing more about it. But of course, everyone should be skeptical about it.

Just have to say though....no....an mmo on a console would be a disaster. TheGreatGuero, you would not want your first mmo experience to be on a console. Just really, you wouldn't. Some things just only work well on PC, just like some games only work well on console.

"Don't care, I hated KOTOR.

Yes, I'm prepared to die."

"BiggerBomb said:

Those are two very different questions. Yes, it is the next game in the series; as in, this is the successor to the series. But this might not be KOTOR III, per say. That's irrelevant, though. My point is that they are making SWTOR instead of KOTOR III, right now, and that's something that may not settle well in the hearts of gamers and KOTOR fans alike."

Actually it makes a big difference. If they said this was the next installment of the KOTOR storyline then I'd be pissed. If it's not then I don't really care. Developers gotta get paid and MMO's are a nice way to do it.

By the way, isn't this going to be micro-transaction based? I think I can live with that if the game is at least OK."

YES!  I Dont like playing 13£ a month for game plus i love the 1st two :((

I just quit WOW, so on one hand, I'm not eager to delve into another MMO, on the other hand, one of the reasons I quit WOW was because I was sick of the Tolkien-like fantasy world.  So, when I heard about the new Star Wars MMO from Bioware, I was excited.  If done right, I think I could get into it.  But on the same token, I don't perceive this forth coming game as KOTOR III.  It may take place in the same world, but as far as I know, it has nothing to do with Revan or any of the characters from the first two KOTOR rpgs. 

Now, as BiggerBomb mentioned, Mass Effect is where Bioware is focusing their single player efforts right now.  So, maybe that question could be asked, as well.  Would you prefer Bioware to develope a KOTOR III or a Mass Effect 2 sequel?

KOTOR MMO on paper sounded great, but when you see the videos it looks like RUBBISH

"KOTOR MMO on paper sounded great, but when you see the videos it looks like RUBBISH"