BioWare adds segregated "Gay Planet"

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#51 Posted by oraknabo (1453 posts) -

terrible

#52 Posted by HeyImPhoenix (169 posts) -

Hilarious.

#53 Posted by coakroach (2488 posts) -

I doubt this is part of some anti-gay Bioware agenda, I mean shit, these guys made Dragon Age II.

This is probably the cheapest and easiest way to implement same sex relationships, and considering that the dev team for TOR probably consists of two people with a jar of pennies at this point, it's hardly surprising.

#54 Posted by Dixavd (1305 posts) -

More an oversight than an actively hurtful thing. They just wanted to add in same-sex relationships and did it at the same time adding in a new planet. They put the two together and failed to see the significance in leaving it that way. My guess is that it will be changed pretty quickly (even if some quests are just edited for the gay characters to appear on other planets for specific scenes etc...).

This is the least of that game's problems (but I guess from their point of view, when you run a f2p game - even bad publicity while get at least one new person to try the game and give them a little money).

#55 Posted by Gamer_152 (14053 posts) -

I understand that Bioware is working on properly bringing same-gender relationships to the game in the future, and I do think people are picking on Bioware too much for this when they are probably the most committed developer in the industry when it comes to doing non-heterosexual relationships justice, and when they're one of the few developers who even give a damn about same-gender relationships, but none the less, the "Gay Planet" seems like a very poor and ham-fisted way to deal with the situation they are in. Instead of implementing a half-hearted stop-gap solution, they should have taken the time to make sure whatever they had produced in terms SGRs was well-made and did the concept justice before rolling it out.

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#56 Posted by Grimhild (721 posts) -

@TheSouthernDandy said:

@Ravenlight said:

Knee-jerk reaction:

  • WTF? They're segregating people by sexual orientation?

Reality:

  • Bioware is adding same-sex content to the game and this one planet is just the start.

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As usual, Slashdot fails to deliver on an accurate, unbiased summary.

Yup. Seems like an attempt to get people pissed off.

#57 Posted by KrypticKiller (190 posts) -

@Grimhild said:

@TheSouthernDandy said:

@Ravenlight said:

Knee-jerk reaction:

  • WTF? They're segregating people by sexual orientation?

Reality:

  • Bioware is adding same-sex content to the game and this one planet is just the start.

--

As usual, Slashdot fails to deliver on an accurate, unbiased summary.

Yup. Seems like an attempt to get people pissed off.

^^

#58 Posted by Toxeia (729 posts) -

It's a video game... also seeing as BioWare was totally cool with my getting my lesbian on in Mass Effect, why are they not okay with it in ToR?

@BlastProcessing said:

This is getting absurd. Wouldn't the right thing be having gay romance everywhere, instead of segregating it to a specific planet? This is basically the gaming equivalent of negro water fountains.

Also, are homosexuals getting tired of Bioware's shenanigans? I would imagine so.

Negro water fountains helped the economy because it led to twice the number of installations. Suddenly segregation's gone and plumbers are out of work. Go figure some libtard doesn't understand how the economy works.

#59 Posted by UlquioKani (1029 posts) -

The art of turning a good thing into a bad thing. Whoever wrote that is a genius. I'm surprised people even believed that they created a segregated gay planet considering Bioware are one of the few developers to even touch the subject of homosexuality and have done so rather well in my opinion. They created a universe where sexual orientation wasn't even talked about. I don't even remember hearing characters be surprised at another's sexual orientation during the Mass Effect games or even Dragon Age for that matter.

#60 Posted by Milkman (16540 posts) -

@Toxeia said:

It's a video game... also seeing as BioWare was totally cool with my getting my lesbian on in Mass Effect, why are they not okay with it in ToR?

@BlastProcessing said:

This is getting absurd. Wouldn't the right thing be having gay romance everywhere, instead of segregating it to a specific planet? This is basically the gaming equivalent of negro water fountains.

Also, are homosexuals getting tired of Bioware's shenanigans? I would imagine so.

Negro water fountains helped the economy because it led to twice the number of installations. Suddenly segregation's gone and plumbers are out of work. Go figure some libtard doesn't understand how the economy works.

Oh wow. Let's go down this road please.

#61 Posted by Mcfart (1554 posts) -

Why did they bother in the first place -_-'

I doubt homosexuals cared aboot the lack of homo relationships in games.

#62 Posted by Itwastuesday (935 posts) -

@Toxeia said:

Negro water fountains helped the economy because it led to twice the number of installations. Suddenly segregation's gone and plumbers are out of work. Go figure some libtard doesn't understand how the economy works.

look at this guy

#63 Posted by IrrelevantJohn (1031 posts) -

@Make_Me_Mad said:

So you can play for free, but have to pay to be gay.

Pretty much this.

#64 Posted by Stimpack (814 posts) -

Hahaha, what the hell is going on over here? Oh, man.

#65 Posted by GrantHeaslip (1532 posts) -

Members of the GB community yet again misuse the term "segregated" in a discussion about homosexuality.

@I_smell said:

@BlastProcessing said:

This is basically the gaming equivalent of negro water fountains.

Actually it's basically the gaming equivalent of how you can only ride dragons in Morrowind, but not the rest of Skyrim. By which I mean it's literally the same issue of new content runs on new code and old content has to be retro-fitted later, if you even have the spare resources to do that.

This is the beginning and end of this story. I’m sick of people jumping to conclusions based solely on headlines.

#66 Posted by CptBedlam (4449 posts) -

Ahh Bioware and romance.... it will never be not awkward.

#67 Posted by Renahzor (991 posts) -

How strangely sensationalist. They explain that adding it in how they want is taking more time and resources than expected, especially with the free to play swap. That suggests a desire to continue to develop that content down the road, and that the current situation isn't the end of dev time on this specific feature.

#68 Posted by BlastProcessing (912 posts) -

@Toxeia said:

It's a video game... also seeing as BioWare was totally cool with my getting my lesbian on in Mass Effect, why are they not okay with it in ToR?

@BlastProcessing said:

This is getting absurd. Wouldn't the right thing be having gay romance everywhere, instead of segregating it to a specific planet? This is basically the gaming equivalent of negro water fountains.

Also, are homosexuals getting tired of Bioware's shenanigans? I would imagine so.

Negro water fountains helped the economy because it led to twice the number of installations. Suddenly segregation's gone and plumbers are out of work. Go figure some libtard doesn't understand how the economy works.

#69 Posted by Nephrahim (1119 posts) -

I don't think Bioware is the one who has a problem with gay and lesbian characters, I think Lucasarts is.

In the entirety of star wars cannon there is only one character that is gay. One. Two if you count juhani. And I think a list of every single EU SW character could fill an enclylopedia.

#70 Posted by TheHumanDove (2523 posts) -

Hahahah ohhh bioware.

#71 Posted by yinstarrunner (1182 posts) -

This isn't Bioware's fault. I mean, SWTOR is plenty mediocre, but this move isn't malicious at all.

Remember, this is the company that makes you BEAT BACK hamfisted advances from every single one of your party members (regardless of sex) in all their recent games.

Seriously, that shit is annoying. I hate Bioware romances, and how it defines their games so much. But that's a topic for another time.

#72 Posted by BRich (431 posts) -

Laughed so hard at the thread title

#73 Posted by Stimpack (814 posts) -

Well, it got people talking about The Old Republic for a couple of minutes at least.

Also, I have it on good authority that Jabba the Hutt takes it in the butt. I'm sorry, I shouldn't have said that. It was pretty lame and possibly insensitive. I love gay people.

#74 Posted by Giantstalker (1533 posts) -

Say what you will about familyphotoshoot, his thread titles are top notch.

Also, I can think of about fifty more important issues in TOR than... this. Crash and burn indeed, Bioware.

#75 Posted by mordukai (7140 posts) -

LMFAO at the thread title.

#76 Posted by OllyOxenFree (4970 posts) -
#77 Edited by ArtisanBreads (3756 posts) -

@SamDrugbringer said:

I don't think Bioware is the one who has a problem with gay and lesbian characters, I think Lucasarts is.

In the entirety of star wars cannon there is only one character that is gay. One. Two if you count juhani. And I think a list of every single EU SW character could fill an enclylopedia.

It has nothing to with either. Just how they add content. The story is being twisted.

Not disagreeing about the Star Wars canon though.

I just find some of the reaction funny considering Bioware is one of the very few developers to have homosexual romance in their games.

#78 Posted by makari (594 posts) -

Oh hey, sensationalist story-bending bullshit, haven't seen that in a while.

#79 Posted by I_Stay_Puft (3048 posts) -

C3PO and R2D2 lovin...

#80 Posted by DizzyMedal (399 posts) -

@Kidavenger said:

I don't understand why Bioware insists on injecting sexuality into it's games, everyone I ever knew that played MMOs seriously (or any game for that matter) did it as an escape/break from real life, who's secret escape is "Gay Planet"? Nobody. No straight people want to pretend to be gay other than to fuck with gay people and I can't imagine many gay people want to escape their gay real life to pretend to be gay.

Wait, what exactly are you saying?

Are you asking why would anyone want to bother with any romance options, regardless of the involved genders? Well, a lot of people just like doing that in games.

Or are you saying you believe that straight/gay/bi/pan/whatever gamers alike all just want to play as heterosexual characters? No. I don't believe that's true.

#81 Posted by BlatantNinja23 (930 posts) -

@TooWalrus: probably just like asaris do

#82 Posted by project343 (2812 posts) -

Man. That is a spectacular headline. Spectacular because it draws so much attention to something that is nowhere near as insane as the title would otherwise suggest.

Follow the Bioware development mindset:

  • Releases game with NPC romances
  • Fans complain that, unlike their prior games in their development catalogue, there are no same-sex relationship options (I think this is a warranted outcry, given Bioware's larger-than-normal LGBT community)
  • While creating new content (read: Makeb), they decide to work same-sex relationship options into that new content as a response to the fans

This isn't a 'gay planet.' You aren't going to see lesbian Amazonian tribes, or gay space clubs, or anything like that. Rather, this is new narrative content that happens to accommodate something that the fans have been asking for. Naturally, re-recording all prior relationships in the game to include male and female characters is way more of a hassle than melding it with the new content.

#83 Posted by connerthekewlkid (1803 posts) -

@TheSouthernDandy said:

@Ravenlight said:

Knee-jerk reaction:

  • WTF? They're segregating people by sexual orientation?

Reality:

  • Bioware is adding same-sex content to the game and this one planet is just the start.

--

As usual, Slashdot fails to deliver on an accurate, unbiased summary.

Yup. Seems like an attempt to get people pissed off.

ive already seen one website take down there version of it for "misinformation"

#84 Posted by Tarsier (1057 posts) -

@Hunkulese said:

It's a video game who cares.

this. please.

#85 Edited by connerthekewlkid (1803 posts) -

people please, there saying now that there adding in same sex relations and a new planet so this article was all kind of a lie.

#86 Posted by Brodehouse (9615 posts) -
@TaliciaDragonsong
This, meaning that article, this topic and the responses, is why we can't have nice things.
I like never agree with you but holy fucking shit are these people pants-on-head crazy.
#87 Posted by AndrewB (7501 posts) -

Everything about this, from the sensationalist headline, the comments from either "side" of the issue, and the way Bioware has spectacularly bungled same/intersex relationships (while at the same time also being one of the only developers to try), make me shake my head.

I'm not going to look through the Bioware forums to confirm this is an actual comment, but nothing could be worse than it:

"Star Wars is a family-based story with nothing to do with SGR," wrote one user. "Please, please, please Bioware do not allow SGR in Star Wars The Old Republic. It will ruin the game and make a lot of people leave it."

What in all fucks is wrong with people?

And now I leave this conversation because the last time the subject was brought up on these forums I made one simple diplomatic comment and wound up being dragged into a shittstorm.

#88 Posted by buft (3301 posts) -

So far ive only Been able to choose to be gay on Earth, good on Bioware for doubling the amount of planets i could be gay on should i ever feel the need.

and here is my sensationalist headline for positive spin on the story.

#89 Posted by Dark (362 posts) -

Sounds like they are making a San Francisco of a galaxy far far away.

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:D

#90 Posted by hughesman (312 posts) -

Keep em' all on one planet and build a space fence. That's what I say.

#91 Posted by Kidavenger (3511 posts) -

@DizzyMedal said:

@Kidavenger said:

I don't understand why Bioware insists on injecting sexuality into it's games, everyone I ever knew that played MMOs seriously (or any game for that matter) did it as an escape/break from real life, who's secret escape is "Gay Planet"? Nobody. No straight people want to pretend to be gay other than to fuck with gay people and I can't imagine many gay people want to escape their gay real life to pretend to be gay.

Wait, what exactly are you saying?

Are you asking why would anyone want to bother with any romance options, regardless of the involved genders? Well, a lot of people just like doing that in games.

Or are you saying you believe that straight/gay/bi/pan/whatever gamers alike all just want to play as heterosexual characters? No. I don't believe that's true.

That's not what I'm saying, it's more that someone that spends more time than the average person dealing with sexual issues in their day to day life, probably won't want to continue dealing with them in their escape.

#92 Posted by Jaytow (693 posts) -

@BlastProcessing said:

This is getting absurd. Wouldn't the right thing be having gay romance everywhere, instead of segregating it to a specific planet? This is basically the gaming equivalent of negro water fountains.

Also, are homosexuals getting tired of Bioware's shenanigans? I would imagine so.

Over react much?

#93 Posted by Hunter5024 (5546 posts) -

Were people complaining about a lack of homosexuals in the rest of the game or something? Cause this seems like a dumbass solution to a dumbass problem.

#94 Posted by Village_Guy (2501 posts) -

Good on them for keeping their promises.

But they kinda invited this story - even if it is wrong - by the way they announced it, they should have waited with the gay content until it was done instead of releasing it one planet at a time (or in this case probably a planet, then the rest of the galaxy)...

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