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    StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty

    Game » consists of 10 releases. Released Jul 27, 2010

    The first chapter in the StarCraft II trilogy focuses on the struggles of the Terran race, as seen through the eyes of Commander Jim Raynor, leader of the rebel group Raynor's Raiders.

    Blizzard aren't confident in Starcraft 2?

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    #1  Edited By phrosnite

    Blizzard won't send review copies to the gaming sites which means that there won't be any reviews on 27th and probably in the following couple of days. 
    Don't you find that weird?

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    #2  Edited By Thrawn1

    source?

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    #3  Edited By EnchantedEcho

    Yeah, I was rejected for a review copy for my site. Granted my website is small but, it seems like everyone is getting the same treatment?

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    They probably want reviewers to pay for their copy as well?! 

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    #5  Edited By phrosnite
    @Thrawn said:

    " source? "

    I was listening to the hotspot and Kevin said it. Considering that the SP campaign is huge I think we won't see any reviews untill Friday. Most high profile game had reviews days before their release date. Why is Blizzard?
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    #6  Edited By shiftymagician

    Perhaps they are overly paranoid of letting anyone (whether it is a reviewer or not) play the game before the due date.  The fact that some people got their hands on the game early but unable to play it due to an online date checker that is used in the install, indicates this.
     
    They are probably forcing all reviewers to review it after it releases, which is bad practice really.  This means that any skeptical gamers cannot check a review of the game and would have to wait until reviews come out.  Blizzard may be banking on some of them to break under anticipation, and purchase the game without a few reviews on hand to dictate their decision.  This would help them get bigger "day-1" sales numbers to use in their future marketing efforts.

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    #7  Edited By TaliciaDragonsong
    @BergDK said:
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    They probably want reviewers to pay for their copy as well?! 

    "
    You'd think they could buy a small country by now innit?
     
    I still dislike the fact you're gonna end up paying for 3 games total with the faction split etc (right? :x)
     That said, I don't like RTS games.
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    #8  Edited By FirePrince

    Can't wait for the game. 
    Also,someone has to burn down one of their gold-plated houses so they get the fact that we still want new franchises,or at least Diablo 3.Screw WoW.

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    #9  Edited By ch13696

    What does it matter? If you played the first one already then guess what... same crap except for a few tweaks and graphic upgrade. We all know everyone is going to buy it regardless of a review. However, if you're really need a review then wait till day one and start reading the communities point of views on all the gaming sites. Same thing as a review except... no score. Don't need it.

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    #10  Edited By gunslingerNZ

    Considering they've had a very extensive beta I think everyone pretty much knows what the game is about. I guess they figure this game doesn't need the metacritic score to sell the game and they're probably right.

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    #11  Edited By Sadisticham

    Doubt there worried. They've yet to have a bad game and the positive beta feedback + the fact it's been in dev for god knows how long probably means they've got stuff how they want it by now.
     
    No doubt it is to stop leaks n such.

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    #12  Edited By Detrian

    More like overconfident. They are just retarded and have super inflated egos so they probably consider they don't even need reviews or media attention.

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    #13  Edited By RVonE
    @Detrian said:
    "More like overconfident. They are just retarded and have super inflated egos so they probably consider they don't even need reviews or media attention. "

    Yes, but it's probably true. I mean, South Korea will buy the game so they're guaranteed to sell millions.
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    @Detrian said:
    " More like overconfident. They are just retarded and have super inflated egos so they probably consider they don't even need reviews or media attention. "
    They don't.
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    #15  Edited By Detrian

    Oh yeah any site needs a review of SC2 anyway so they'll have to buy it. It still sounds like something retarded and petty of Blizzard.

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    #16  Edited By VWGTI

    They don't need reviews because people will buy the game regardless. Also, the game is pretty damn good.
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    #17  Edited By time allen

    lol my friend's site got a copy. 

    /weird

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    #18  Edited By KaosAngel

    Who ever gives SC2 a score lower than an aggregate of 90%, will get the shit flamed out of them. 
     
    Going on TL, and Kpop Forums...it's pretty much confident that this will be the RTS for the next 10 years.  Reviewers might hit it for being too hard, or "being the same", but in reality...SC2 is the perfect RTS. 
     
    Having been in the beta since March, I can say this (along with GT5) are the only two games I even care about in 2010 and 2011.   
     
    Reviews will mean shit for this game, and whoever gives it a crappy score will get the shit flamed out of them from the entire SC community.   
     
    EDIT:  Some of you might say, "well Kaos you hyped the shit out of Versus XIII", well to that I say Versus XIII is the last one of the FF13 games and Agito comes out 2011...so that means Versus is out in 2012 in Japan.  >.>

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    #19  Edited By Computerplayer1

    Won't make much difference. Aside from still not fixing the voice chat feature (as far as I know) and some corrupt audio files and random crashes for people, they've pretty much gut things nailed down. Almost anyone who is going to buy Starcraft 2 already knows about it, probably already played the beta, and will be buying it on day one and/or week one regardless of reviews.
     
    Hell, they could scrap releasing it in NA and still make a fortune in Korea alone.

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    #20  Edited By septim

    I wonder why games that are virtually guaranteed 90 + Metascores such as this and RDR want to avoid the standard review process...
     
    Maybe it's a piracy thing?

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    #21  Edited By ArchScabby

    It's just that Blizzard doesn't give a fuck.  They know billions of people are going to buy the game, good review or bad review.

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    #22  Edited By Aus_azn
    @ch13696 said:
    " What does it matter? If you played the first one already then guess what... same crap except for a few tweaks and graphic upgrade. We all know everyone is going to buy it regardless of a review. However, if you're really need a review then wait till day one and start reading the communities point of views on all the gaming sites. Same thing as a review except... no score. Don't need it. "
    Pretty much, the only reason I'm picking this up is for the campaign. 
     
    @Detrian:
     They don't, and they'll probably send out review copies afterwards...
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    #23  Edited By gamer_152  Moderator

    I doubt this is about Blizzard being unconfident in their product, they probably just want anyone who wishes to review the game to buy a copy.

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    #24  Edited By Shabs

    Do you need a review to know if you want Starcraft 2? 
     
    I'm going to assume that it's Starcraft... again.  
     
    The quality of the single player is irrelevant to my purchasing decision.

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    #25  Edited By phrosnite
    @Shuborno said:

    " Do you need a review to know if you want Starcraft 2? 
     
    I'm going to assume that it's Starcraft... again.   The quality of the single player is irrelevant to my purchasing decision. "

    No, I am not buying it but I might win a copy ( really, really slim chance). I'm just curious to see the reviews and most importantly I want this game to flop ^_^ because I'm a 40k fan. Does that make me a bad person?
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    #26  Edited By Eisen

    They probably don't want the single player leaking out to the public before the game is released.    Many reviewers have a tendency to spoil games.  I've played the beta.  There is nothing to worry about.

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    #27  Edited By TotalEklypse

    o wow i have no faith in it either. but yea it is shady to pull that with game reviewers. they are just trying to push up the initial sales of those who cant wait for a review. 

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    #28  Edited By Arjuna

    Rockstar did this for Red Dead Redemption and it got great reviews.

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    #29  Edited By Arjuna

    The video game review system is largely corrupt.  Ever see Gamespot or IGN give less than a 50% review?  No?  hmmmmmm....

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    #30  Edited By scarace360

    we already know this game is good so why care about a review. We know the multiplayer kicks ass so just buy it.

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    #31  Edited By Milkman

    It's probably more of a piracy thing. Blizzard is not the company to lack any confidence in their games. 

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    #32  Edited By Milkman
    @Arjuna said:
    " The video game review system is largely corrupt.  Ever see Gamespot or IGN give less than a 50% review?  No?  hmmmmmm.... "
    Umm...yes? All the damn time. 
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    #33  Edited By ryanwho

    Score seems kind of redundant for this game. Like any score would sway a day one buyer one way or the other. The only thing the score does is make the day one fanboy go "I knew it would be great" or "that review outlet sucks". If your big games don't really gain anything from reviews, why put forth the effort?

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    @septim said:
    " I wonder why games that are virtually guaranteed 90 + Metascores such as this and RDR want to avoid the standard review process...  Maybe it's a piracy thing? "
    Technically the full game is already out there thanks to the whole preload thing (I think that was a dumb move, but whatever). The reverse engineering dudes probably cracked it weeks ago. In this case, piracy is not to be blamed.
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    #35  Edited By ryanwho
    @atomic_dumpling said:
    " @septim said:
    " I wonder why games that are virtually guaranteed 90 + Metascores such as this and RDR want to avoid the standard review process...  Maybe it's a piracy thing? "
    Technically the full game is already out there thanks to the whole preload thing (I think that was a dumb move, but whatever). The reverse engineering dudes probably cracked it weeks ago. In this case, piracy is not to be blamed. "
    They haven't. You would have seen major game outlets cover it. I have the beta so I guess I own the "game" but obviously its missing a handful of mandatory files still and that's why nobody's cracked it.
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    #36  Edited By KaosAngel
    @Milkman said:
    " It's probably more of a piracy thing. Blizzard is not the company to lack any confidence in their games.  "
    ...I think Battle.net 2.0 is pretty much locked down.  SC2 is more MMO in terms of piracy, sure they'll be hacked servers...but I got a good hunch SC2 will keep pirates at bay with how Battle.net 2.0 works.
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    #37  Edited By Pinworm45
    @atomic_dumpling said:
    " @septim said:
    " I wonder why games that are virtually guaranteed 90 + Metascores such as this and RDR want to avoid the standard review process...  Maybe it's a piracy thing? "
     The reverse engineering dudes probably cracked it weeks ago. "
    Even if it was out weeks ago, and it wasn't.. no. 
     
    anyway the reason they probably didn't bother is because the new battle.net is such a huge part of their game, and they want the servers down for upgrades, repairs, maintenance, and preparation. Why bring it up for a few reviewers. I suppose they could have made a single-player only version, but Blizzard obviously doesn't want their multi-player-heavy game reviewed solely for its single player..
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    #38  Edited By ProfessorEss
    @Brodehouse said:

    " @Detrian said:

    " More like overconfident. They are just retarded and have super inflated egos so they probably consider they don't even need reviews or media attention. "
    They don't. "
    Bingo. They've more than earned the right to do whatever the hell they want to do.
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    #39  Edited By JokerSmilez

    Considering how much of the game they've shown and how many people they've let into the beta, there isn't a whole lot of point for a review. The amount of people that are on the fence about Starcraft 2 and are waiting for a review but are too lazy to look up the million or so write ups and videos about the beta is pretty minuscule.  
     
    Blizzard isn't exactly known for lack of confidence in their games. If anything, it's the same story as Red Dead. They know they have a good game, but they also know that there's a possibility of it getting 4 stars instead of 5 (especially with it being a niche game - it may be Starcraft but it's still an RTS, not exactly the most popular game genre), which translates to an 80 on Metacritic and that can drastically effect bonuses, etc for the developers as much of that stuff is tied to Metacritic scores. 
     
    It's not "shady", it's not about lack of confidence in their game (if Blizzard wasn't happy with it, they'd just delay for the 100th time) and it's not about making game sites buy copies (for a game that's guaranteed to sell millions and a company that makes billions, you really think they give a shit about selling maybe an extra couple hundreds copies?), it's just a business decision. Don't read too much into it.

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    #40  Edited By TheAdmin

    Isn't Brad's semi-review enough? He loves it and would marry it -  I take that to mean it's good.

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    #41  Edited By KaosAngel

    I for one am glad that the Halo Generation won't be picking this up...last thing I need are those kinds of people on Battle.net, and Battle.net is already bad with trolls (me included on bad days). 
     
    The less reviews get out, the less likely people who play Halo Wars will pick it up. 
     
    Keep SC2 the way it's meant to be, with us long time Blizzard fans who grew up with PC gaming. 
     
    Also, fuck the reviews. 
     
    SPOILERS - I bet Brad gives it a 5/5.

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    #42  Edited By TwinkieTime

    It would be funny if Blizzard pulled another Starcraft: Ghost.

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    #43  Edited By KaosAngel
    @TwinkieTime said:
    " It would be funny if Blizzard pulled another Starcraft: Ghost. "
    Get out.  Now.   
     
    I'm already going through withdrawal, and shaking, and biting my teeth...these are going to be a long 7 days for me.  I've been playing SC2 non-stop for months, and now it's all gone.  I honestly have no idea what to do the entire week.  I tried going outside but my skin started to turn darker, and I went back in due to the infection I got. 
     
    But yeah, no one is gonna care about the SC2 reviews....it will sell more than all Halo games did at their launch.  No one will care what the scores are, and anyone who gives it less than 90% will get threatened by the fanbase.
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    #44  Edited By ryanwho

    Im positive it'll be the best reviewed game of the year because reviewers are little kids. Its because they're little kids that they're not getting sent review copies. Someone has to be the guy to give away the story, someone has to be the guy to slips up and gives away a huge twist about a 4th race or something. It happens.

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    #45  Edited By sjschmidt93

    Put a SC2 review in the wrong hands (i.e. a non-PC gamer) and it'll wind up with a 5/10.

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    #46  Edited By KaosAngel
    @SJSchmidt93 said:
    " Put a SC2 review in the wrong hands (i.e. a non-PC gamer) and it'll wind up with a 5/10. "
    It'd be cute if that site that gave Halo Wars a 90%, reviewed SC2 and gave it in the 60s due to it being too complicated.  >.> 
     
    The hilarious part is, some dude is making a FULL conversion map in the Galaxy Editor to play Halo Wars but make it better and a real game.
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    #47  Edited By ryanwho
    @SJSchmidt93 said:
    " Put a SC2 review in the wrong hands (i.e. a non-PC gamer) and it'll wind up with a 5/10. "
    Only if they go online. Im sure the campaign itself is idiot proof.
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    #48  Edited By Shabs
    @phrosnite said:
    " @Shuborno said:

    " Do you need a review to know if you want Starcraft 2? 
     
    I'm going to assume that it's Starcraft... again.   The quality of the single player is irrelevant to my purchasing decision. "

    No, I am not buying it but I might win a copy ( really, really slim chance). I'm just curious to see the reviews and most importantly I want this game to flop ^_^ because I'm a 40k fan. Does that make me a bad person? "
    Well, it's not going to flop regardless of review scores, and less Starcraft fans doesn't mean more Dawn of War fans. 
     
    Starcraft isn't popular because it's an RTS, it's just something that clicked at the time, and people like me who don't play RTS games have an interest in it.  For example, I bought Dawn of War II ages ago in a Steam sale, and I've yet to run it once.  I'll be buying Starcraft to co-op against some AI with my friends.  One game involves learning something new and one involves running the executable and playing.
     
    I think it works the same way with Call of Duty.  Do you need to read a single Black Ops review to know that it's going to sell a bazillion copies?  A game like Monday Night Combat wouldn't sell better if CoD was more or less successful in my opinion.
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    #49  Edited By Detrian

    This is not really about reviews. It's about Blizzard being dicks with media that has kissed their asses for the better part of a decade and a half.

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    #50  Edited By KaosAngel
    @Detrian said:
    " This is not really about reviews. It's about Blizzard being dicks with media that has kissed their asses for the better part of a decade and a half. "
    How has the media kissed their asses?  Blizzard doesn't NEED media, they're like Valve.  They don't care and all their games kick ass, Blizzard and Valve have never made bad games. 
     
    Blizzard doesn't give a shit about what IGN or GameTrailers or G4 has to say about SC2.  If they bad mouth the game, it'll just prove those reviewers are idiots.  SC is the ONLY RTS still being played daily by millions of players 12 years later...and SC2 will do the same. 
     
    No review is needed, and no body gives a crap about what people score it.  It'll just prove if they suck at RTS games, if they never played a Blizzard game before, or if they're part of that Halo Generation.

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