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    StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty

    Game » consists of 10 releases. Released Jul 27, 2010

    The first chapter in the StarCraft II trilogy focuses on the struggles of the Terran race, as seen through the eyes of Commander Jim Raynor, leader of the rebel group Raynor's Raiders.

    Which is better to upgrade (Protoss): Atck, Def, Shld?

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    #1  Edited By sreya92

    Personally I'd think def but what about y'all?

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    #2  Edited By zyte

    Attack. 
    As Protoss, upgrading Attack is always the best, no matter what race your opponent play.
    It is especially important to upgrade Attack +1 quickly when facing Zerg. (Since Zealots will kill Zerglings in 2 hits, instead of 3 without the upgrade etc.)

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    #3  Edited By Joru

    Attack is what people usually go for first, unless they are doing some interesting upgrade-centric tactic. Shield is something you very rarely see, usually only in long macro games.

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    #4  Edited By Ben_H
    @Zyte said: 

    Attack. As Protoss, upgrading Attack is always the best, no matter what race your opponent play.It is especially important to upgrade Attack +1 quickly when facing Zerg. (Since Zealots will kill Zerglings in 2 hits, instead of 3 without the upgrade etc.)

    Not necessarily.  Armour is far more beneficial against Terran in the early stages than attack until the lategame when high tech, aoe units are out, hence why you see many pros having 1 attack/2-3 armour upgrades in the midgame before getting more attack upgrades and higher tech units.  Armour upgrades negate bio incredibly well, especially for zealots, which when combined with charge make them terrifying against marine/marauder compositions when trapped by forcefields  or confined spaces because the zealots take much longer to die and cause a significantly larger amount of damage.  The upgrade makes a much more noticeable difference against marines than marauders though since they rely on fast shots of small damage compared to the marauder's slower shot that inflicts more damage.
     
    Against zerg, attack is more beneficial until the lategame, where you should optimally be getting armour upgrades anyway.  In the current trend for Protoss (IE: all of the stupid 2-base all-in crap with 5-7 gateways), attack upgrades are an integral part to the build working. 
     
    Shield upgrades are useless, especially against ghost-using Terrans because if they EMP right you won't have shields anyway.  I only get shields once 3/3 is done and all other necessary tech is upgraded.
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    #5  Edited By zyte
    @Ben_H said:
    @Zyte said: 

    Attack. As Protoss, upgrading Attack is always the best, no matter what race your opponent play.It is especially important to upgrade Attack +1 quickly when facing Zerg. (Since Zealots will kill Zerglings in 2 hits, instead of 3 without the upgrade etc.)

    Not necessarily.  Armour is far more beneficial against Terran in the early stages than attack until the lategame when high tech, aoe units are out, hence why you see many pros having 1 attack/2-3 armour upgrades in the midgame before getting more attack upgrades and higher tech units.  Armour upgrades negate bio incredibly well, especially for zealots, which when combined with charge make them terrifying against marine/marauder compositions when trapped by forcefields  or confined spaces because the zealots take much longer to die and cause a significantly larger amount of damage.  
    Aha, interesting. Thanks for catching me up with that.
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    #6  Edited By imsh_pl

    You should upgrade attack first against a zerg, that way your zealots 2 hit zerglings. However, against a terran opponent it's better to upgrade defense since your zealots stop being the primary damage dealers and their main reason is to be a meatshield for your stalkers.

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    #7  Edited By raiz265

    Armor vs Terran 
    Attack vs Zerg 
     
    That's the general rule of thumb I'd say
     
    Shield comes after 3/3 most of the time 
    I've seen some Protoss players go 1/1/1 upgrades though if they plan on going Archons lateron, but that's probably advanced 
     
     
    Most badass way is going double forge and going attack and armor at the same time of course, but that's quite the investment in the early/midgame which makes you quite prone to timing attacks

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    #8  Edited By Thule

    It depends.

    It's all dependant on which race you're facing and what kind of build you're trying to do. What raiz said is the general rule of thumb, because the armor upgrade versus Terran reduces marine damage by alot and the attack upgrade versus Zerg allows your zealots to kill zerglings in 2 hits rather than 3. However, it's not set in stone. If you've got a plan that allows you to use the other upgrade more effectively then there's nothing stopping you from doing so.

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    #9  Edited By awesomatic

    My current upgrade scheme (however im only gold lvl):
     
    1 Forge 2/0/0 vs Zerg (sentry expand/sentry fake expand)
    2 Forge 2/2/0 vs Terran (2-3 base timing push with chargelot/templars/archons)
    1 Forge 1/1/0 vs Protoss (Only after initial aggression e.g. 4gate/3gate blink/2gate immortals)

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    #10  Edited By haffy

    I'm pretty sure it's worth getting shield upgrades instead of armour if your concentrating on blink stalkers in a build. But I think attack still takes priority. 

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    #11  Edited By wunder_

    SHIELDDDD or Air weapons

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    #12  Edited By Aus_azn

    I only play P when randoming, and I'll usually go for attack first. Or...
     
    @Wunder_ said:

    SHIELDDDD or Air weapons

      If I am massing...
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    #13  Edited By imsh_pl
    @Aus_azn said:

    I only play P when randoming, and I'll usually go for attack first. Or...
     

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    SHIELDDDD or Air weapons

      If I am massing...
    I lost my shit when he sang 'yesterday was Void Rays'.
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    #14  Edited By baldgye

    how I roll
     
    armour vs T
    attack vs Z
     and then vs P it depends how you're playing it, if you have alot of zelots, go for attack, if you have alot of stalkers probally best for armour
     
     
    I becasue I watch how the pro's do it never bother with sheilds untill I've gotten 3/3 in armour and attack

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    #15  Edited By csl316

    @imsh_pl said:

    You should upgrade attack first against a zerg, that way your zealots 2 hit zerglings. However, against a terran opponent it's better to upgrade defense since your zealots stop being the primary damage dealers and their main reason is to be a meatshield for your stalkers.

    Yes, I figured this was the general consensus, too.

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    #16  Edited By Pibo47
    @imsh_pl said:
    @Aus_azn said:

    I only play P when randoming, and I'll usually go for attack first. Or...
     

    @Wunder_

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    SHIELDDDD or Air weapons

      If I am massing...
    I lost my shit when he sang 'yesterday was Void Rays'.
    Thats when i had to stop watching. I fucking lost it and fell outta my chair!
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    #17  Edited By sjschmidt93

    Armor vs Terran bio 
    Attack vs Terran Mech 
    Attack vs Zerg 
    Attack vs Protoss (even though finding time to fit these in is very hard) 
     
    Shield can be quite good if you're archon heavy, but generally don't get it until 3/3.

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