So I've been watching the quick look and I'm really interested in the game now. I wasn't great at warhawk but I definitely saw potential in loving it. I'm just curious on how is liking the game? How does the base building stuff feel? Thanks for the help guys!
How has everyone enjoyed this?
@Sackmanjones: Fucking loving it. Big fan of Warhawk, and I adore the additional RTS elements. I find myself focusing more on base defense than base raiding, but I suppose that lines up with my TF2 class of choice: the Engineer. I think it could be the most impressive shooter-RTS hybrid game I've ever played. How they merge typical 'research' buildings into a shooter is insane: want to upgrade your team with sniper rifles? Build a watch tower, and anyone can nab one. Beautifully designed.
The one thing that I'll say is to manage expectations for the campaign. It's... functional. Nay, it's better than I thought it was going to be. It isn't simply sets of repurposed multiplayer maps with overlayed NPC dialogue and cutscenes, but calling it a really compelling tutorial is pretty accurate.
My first impression wasn't great. I was getting quick matched into 4 person games on 32 person maps. This happened several times.
Then I did what I did in Warhawk, which is 32 player zone matches. And after a couple hours today... holy shit, it's awesome. Zones tends to set up choke points with insanely explosive battles that stack up with the best that Warhawk had to offer. Winning a match is exhilarating, while slowly losing it becomes incredibly stressful but still fun (especially if you hold the damn line and stabilize the game).
I had a few points where I was just running around looking way ahead, and you have lasers and hawks and explosions and drop pods just falling everywhere. It's something to see. The one thing I miss? Hovering with hawks, although the mobility did make them a bit too powerful in the past.
Favorite moment, though? Flying cloaked into a base, landing with my flak cannon, and triple killing 3 separate walking mechs before they realized what hit em. The game can get mindless if you just wanna run into battle with a tank over and over, but there's definitely the type of tactical depth that made me fall in love with its predecessor. Great stuff.
@Ninja_Welshman: That was my initial impression with Warhawk years ago. I didn't know what the hell was going on, and I just jumped in jeep turrets hoping for the best. Took a few hours, but it clicked and became my favorite multiplayer game for a year or so. Luckily, Starhawk should make it a bit easier to get moving (one, there's no launch connection issues, and two, there's an actual tutorial/campaign). Best advice I can give is watch the map a bunch to try figuring out where you can be most effective. And pick your battles. Rarely will you do much good running head on into artillery battles with nothing but an assault rifle.
It's great, but people are starting to exploit the B&B system to dominate "strategically challenged" teams. Rushing bases with a fleet of tanks, surrounding your flag with like 15 turrets, spamming cluster bombs, etc. Leads to a lot of lopsided matches. Maybe once people learn the strategies it will balance out more. Still definetly worth playing if you liked Warhawk.
Ok, so I tried Zone mode. Found this much easier to get to grips with. We had a couple of good Hawk pilots which kept there Hawks busy and off my ass. This made a hell of a difference! Was a close game all the way which we won in the end. But, the most important thing was I felt I was actually contributing to my side. Capping/defending Zones and harassing there Hawks with rockets. Going to stick with this mode for now till I get to grips with everything that goes on. Who knows I keep this game yet?
I played my first rounds of CTF and team deathwatch. I felt like I was more of a hindrance to the team. I'll have to give zones a shot. Hopefully that'll get me better acclimated. The game is definitely good, but frustrating when you aren't doing so well when you start off.
@Sackmanjones: I think I got a few games of CTF with you earlier Sackman.
Good stuff! Although, I feel like I'm still not quite sure what I'm doing. I understand the armory, watch tower, ARM, and turrets, etc. What do you need to build so that you can spawn further away from your base?
I feel like I'm close to making sense of it all, but boy am I having a hard time actually shooting anyone. I think most of my kills have been from running enemies over in the Razorback.
Hey if you wanna add me on your friends I'd definitely love to get a game in again! I believe when were playing I was escorting you when you had to flag and then accidentally ran into you haha
@Sackmanjones: Haha, yeah I was shocked that I was able to actually capture their flag a couple of times.
I'll shoot you a friend request next time I'm online to get some more games in. The campaign sounds like a good idea as well. I think I only made it through the first two tutorial missions so far, so I'm sure there is more to learn from it.
It definitely seems like a game that is more enjoyable with a solid team around you. There are moments when it really comes together. I'm hoping I'll enjoy it more as I start to figure more of it out.
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