Rust under heavy DDOS attack... 4th day now

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#1 Posted by Bucklebutt (39 posts) -

I just saw Brad's tweet about buying Rust and I wanted to give everyone a fair warning. The game has been completely unplayable for 4 days now.. best to wait till things are back up and running.

censor.nudity false ftw

#2 Edited by jakob187 (21640 posts) -

It's not just Rust.

DERP has been hitting BF4's servers, Ghosts' servers, DOTA 2 servers, League of Legends servers, Club Penguin, Battle.net and many other places.

https://twitter.com/DerpTrolling

#3 Edited by ViciousBearMauling (861 posts) -

@jakob187 said:

It's not just Rust.

DERP has been hitting BF4's servers, Ghosts' servers, DOTA 2 servers, League of Legends servers, Club Penguin, Battle.net and many other places.

https://twitter.com/DerpTrolling

OH NO, MY CLUB PENGUIN GAMING TIME!!!!!

But seriously, this is both funny and awful!

#4 Posted by GreggD (4475 posts) -

@jakob187 said:

It's not just Rust.

DERP has been hitting BF4's servers, Ghosts' servers, DOTA 2 servers, League of Legends servers, Club Penguin, Battle.net and many other places.

https://twitter.com/DerpTrolling

If this organization had a throat, I would strangle it. All I wanna do is play BF4, what a buncha fuckheads.

#5 Posted by HatKing (5779 posts) -

I don't know what would make somebody so aggressively passionate that they would want to attempt to ruin a game for other people. Such a waste of time and effort.

#6 Posted by Breadfan (6589 posts) -

Wait. Battlefield 4 needs someone other than EA to crash their servers?

#7 Posted by GreggD (4475 posts) -

@breadfan said:

Wait. Battlefield 4 needs someone other than EA to crash their servers?

The game was running fine during the holidays. Now it's all fucked serverside.

#8 Posted by e30bmw (356 posts) -

@hatking said:

I don't know what would make somebody so aggressively passionate that they would want to attempt to ruin a game for other people. Such a waste of time and effort.

I read somewhere that they are targeting games that a specific person streams a lot. In any case, I've lost a lot of patience for shitheads like this in the past 3 or 4 years.

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#9 Posted by HatKing (5779 posts) -

@e30bmw said:

@hatking said:

I don't know what would make somebody so aggressively passionate that they would want to attempt to ruin a game for other people. Such a waste of time and effort.

I read somewhere that they are targeting games that a specific person streams a lot. In any case, I've lost a lot of patience for shitheads like this in the past 3 or 4 years.

Me too. No excuse for it. At least it seems like these kinds of guys are getting caught more frequently now. As much as I don't like seeing people winding up in prison, it does warm my heart a little bit each time I see those articles come up.

#10 Edited by Breadfan (6589 posts) -

@greggd said:

@breadfan said:

Wait. Battlefield 4 needs someone other than EA to crash their servers?

The game was running fine during the holidays. Now it's all fucked serverside.

Ah, well that puts a damper on my lame joke. But for real. Fuck these guys - do they really not have anything else to do with their time?

#11 Edited by GreggD (4475 posts) -

@breadfan said:

@greggd said:

@breadfan said:

Wait. Battlefield 4 needs someone other than EA to crash their servers?

The game was running fine during the holidays. Now it's all fucked serverside.

Ah, well that puts a damper on my lame joke. But for real. Fuck these guys - do they really not have anything else to do with their time?

If they're this invested in gaming, they should, I dunno, play some games?

#12 Edited by Random45 (996 posts) -

@e30bmw said:

@hatking said:

I don't know what would make somebody so aggressively passionate that they would want to attempt to ruin a game for other people. Such a waste of time and effort.

I read somewhere that they are targeting games that a specific person streams a lot. In any case, I've lost a lot of patience for shitheads like this in the past 3 or 4 years.

Wow, seriously? That's their justification? Screw these guys man, that's just stupid and immature.

#13 Posted by Monkeyman04 (998 posts) -

@greggd said:

@breadfan said:

@greggd said:

@breadfan said:

Wait. Battlefield 4 needs someone other than EA to crash their servers?

The game was running fine during the holidays. Now it's all fucked serverside.

Ah, well that puts a damper on my lame joke. But for real. Fuck these guys - do they really not have anything else to do with their time?

If they're this invested in gaming, they should, I dunno, play some games?

PSH! Playing games!? that's so 2002. It's all about fucking up someone else's fun nowadays.

#14 Posted by mina_mina752 (121 posts) -

this is what i call "pure evil"

maybe not evil for ea but why dota and lol is targeted ?

#15 Posted by slyspider (1133 posts) -
#16 Posted by SMTDante89 (2541 posts) -

Here's a bit more info about what's going on, and it sounds ridiculous.

#17 Posted by Hailinel (23680 posts) -

Here's a bit more info about what's going on, and it sounds ridiculous.

Did it ever not sound ridiculous?

#18 Posted by SMTDante89 (2541 posts) -

@hailinel said:

@smtdante89 said:

Here's a bit more info about what's going on, and it sounds ridiculous.

Did it ever not sound ridiculous?

Well yeah, just about all DDoS attacks are ridiculous, but having the police arrive at the apparent victim's house in the story adds a lot to it.

#19 Edited by JasonR86 (9587 posts) -

How dare they etc etc....

#20 Posted by jakob187 (21640 posts) -

@e30bmw said:

@hatking said:

I don't know what would make somebody so aggressively passionate that they would want to attempt to ruin a game for other people. Such a waste of time and effort.

I read somewhere that they are targeting games that a specific person streams a lot. In any case, I've lost a lot of patience for shitheads like this in the past 3 or 4 years.

Phantoml0rd was streaming some stuff. They ended up targeting games he was playing after a little bit. Supposedly, 6 policemen showed up at Phantoml0rd's house and arrested him, searched his house, etc.

All I know is that if @brad wasn't able to play DOTA 2, I can imagine he turned into a hulking rage monster that was ready to shit down someone's throat with the stinkiest after-Christmas poo imaginable.

#21 Edited by cmblasko (1108 posts) -

Why has someone really smart not developed some sort of defense against DDOS attacks yet?

#22 Edited by Blu3V3nom07 (4137 posts) -
#23 Posted by ripelivejam (3464 posts) -
#24 Edited by TheDudeOfGaming (6078 posts) -

Come on guys. It's pretty harmless. So you can't play the game(s) you want, you'll be able to in a couple of days. Go read a book in the meantime. And at least they're doing it for the lulz, unlike those hacktivists.

I was wrong, I am sorry, I'll go whip myself now as penance.

#25 Posted by Hailinel (23680 posts) -

Come on guys. It's pretty harmless. So you can't play the game(s) you want, you'll be able to in a couple of days. Go read a book in the meantime. And at least they're doing it for the lulz, unlike those hacktivists.

What, you mean like lulzsec, who literally hacked PSN and other corporate servers "for the lulz"?

Or how this crew apparently sent the police after him on false charges?

#26 Posted by TheDudeOfGaming (6078 posts) -

@hailinel said:

@thedudeofgaming said:

Come on guys. It's pretty harmless. So you can't play the game(s) you want, you'll be able to in a couple of days. Go read a book in the meantime. And at least they're doing it for the lulz, unlike those hacktivists.

What, you mean like lulzsec, who literally hacked PSN and other corporate servers "for the lulz"?

Or how this crew apparently sent the police after him on false charges?

Hm, after thinking about it I realized that they're equally as bad as anonymous and other hacktivists. And that the efforts of both groups are as equally wasted. So, perhaps they aren't really better than hacktivists, but if no money or information is being stolen. Then I'd say it's pretty harmless for those affected. So long as it doesn't last too long, which it won't... hopefully.

#27 Posted by HeyGuys (326 posts) -

Come on guys. It's pretty harmless. So you can't play the game(s) you want, you'll be able to in a couple of days. Go read a book in the meantime. And at least they're doing it for the lulz, unlike those hacktivists.

I don't want to be That Guy but how about all of the money they're undoubtedly costing those companies, which effects all their employees and share holders? Doing that for a cheap laugh over how you're taking a crap on someonelse's day seems like a real scumbag thing to do.

#28 Edited by GorillaMoPena (1886 posts) -

@thedudeofgaming said:

@hailinel said:

@thedudeofgaming said:

Come on guys. It's pretty harmless. So you can't play the game(s) you want, you'll be able to in a couple of days. Go read a book in the meantime. And at least they're doing it for the lulz, unlike those hacktivists.

What, you mean like lulzsec, who literally hacked PSN and other corporate servers "for the lulz"?

Or how this crew apparently sent the police after him on false charges?

Hm, after thinking about it I realized that they're equally as bad as anonymous and other hacktivists. And that the efforts of both groups are as equally wasted. So, perhaps they aren't really better than hacktivists, but if no money or information is being stolen. Then I'd say it's pretty harmless for those affected. So long as it doesn't last too long, which it won't... hopefully.

Well they posted all this guy's info online to the point the cops showed up to his house with assault rifles.

So I guess "harmful"

#29 Posted by GreggD (4475 posts) -

@hailinel said:

@thedudeofgaming said:

Come on guys. It's pretty harmless. So you can't play the game(s) you want, you'll be able to in a couple of days. Go read a book in the meantime. And at least they're doing it for the lulz, unlike those hacktivists.

What, you mean like lulzsec, who literally hacked PSN and other corporate servers "for the lulz"?

Or how this crew apparently sent the police after him on false charges?

Hm, after thinking about it I realized that they're equally as bad as anonymous and other hacktivists. And that the efforts of both groups are as equally wasted. So, perhaps they aren't really better than hacktivists, but if no money or information is being stolen. Then I'd say it's pretty harmless for those affected. So long as it doesn't last too long, which it won't... hopefully.

I'm sorry, but it's still a bunch of nonsense. The fact that BF4 was already getting slammed by everybody for connection issues, and now this, it's a ton of bad press. I don't want that game to die a sudden death just because some assholes who happen to know how to run a script fucked with the servers.

#30 Posted by TheDudeOfGaming (6078 posts) -

@thedudeofgaming said:

@hailinel said:

@thedudeofgaming said:

Come on guys. It's pretty harmless. So you can't play the game(s) you want, you'll be able to in a couple of days. Go read a book in the meantime. And at least they're doing it for the lulz, unlike those hacktivists.

What, you mean like lulzsec, who literally hacked PSN and other corporate servers "for the lulz"?

Or how this crew apparently sent the police after him on false charges?

Hm, after thinking about it I realized that they're equally as bad as anonymous and other hacktivists. And that the efforts of both groups are as equally wasted. So, perhaps they aren't really better than hacktivists, but if no money or information is being stolen. Then I'd say it's pretty harmless for those affected. So long as it doesn't last too long, which it won't... hopefully.

Well they posted all this guy's info online to the point the cops showed up to his house with assault rifles.

So I guess "harmful"

Yeah okay so missed that part. Am officially wrong, and an asshole. I apologize. Fuck those guys.

#31 Posted by GorillaMoPena (1886 posts) -

@thedudeofgaming: It's fine, it is such a weird thing that keeps gets weirder.

#32 Posted by Animasta (14633 posts) -

what the fuck did that guy do?

#33 Posted by davidwitten22 (1708 posts) -

Come on guys. It's pretty harmless. So you can't play the game(s) you want, you'll be able to in a couple of days. Go read a book in the meantime. And at least they're doing it for the lulz, unlike those hacktivists.

Yeah sending the police to someones house and shutting down multiple gaming services that affects millions of people sure is harmless, I mean really.

Come on guys.

#34 Edited by HeyGuys (326 posts) -

@animasta: As far as I can tell he didn't actually do anything, he was just the most popular stream. Annoying internet trolls with no perspective, maturity, and too much time got a hold of something that could make them feel powerful and wanted people to know they could shut down websites/services other people enjoyed seems to be the whole story.

#35 Edited by pyrodactyl (1856 posts) -

@blu3v3nom07 said:

@cmblasko said:

Why has someone really smart not developed some sort of defense against DDOS attacks yet?

https://projectshield.withgoogle.com/

The Verge: Google launches new anti-DDoS service called 'Project Shield'

I don't really wanna explain like I know how it works.

That's not a solution, that's just google spinning up more servers to take the DDOS beating. I'm not an expert but I think the basic theory behind DDOS attack is that there is absolutly no way of knowing the difference between the computers spamming your server and the computers just trying to use it normaly. Therfor, the only way to handle DDOS attacks is to spin up more servers to handle the load created by spam.

#36 Posted by cmblasko (1108 posts) -
#37 Edited by pyrodactyl (1856 posts) -

@heyguys said:

@animasta: As far as I can tell he didn't actually do anything, he was just the most popular stream. Annoying internet trolls with no perspective, maturity, and too much time got a hold of something that could make them feel powerful and wanted people to know they could shut down websites/services other people enjoyed seems to be the whole story.

There was a whole segement of the last jar time video on who would do such a thing. Jeff summed it up quite nicely: bored and imature kids or people who didn't grow out of that fase.

#38 Edited by Blu3V3nom07 (4137 posts) -

Ahem.

Speaking on his Twitch stream, Phantoml0rd said he believes he was randomly targeted because he was the top streamer on Twitch at the time. The group has so far shut down every game he has streamed on his channel.

Many of the services like EA.com are still unavailable at the time of writing. We have reached out to Phantoml0rd and the affected services for comment. The stream is currently drawing more than 140,000 viewers.

Update: Shortly after this story was published, Varga announced to his stream viewers that the police were at his home. The stream was put on hold before going offline. We have reached out to the Los Angeles Police Department to confirm whether officers were dispatched to Varga's home. We have also reached out to Twitch for comment.

Update 2: Varga posted the following message to his Facebook page: "...just had an automatic pointed at me, put in hand cuffs and sat in the back of a cop car as I watched as 6 policemen go through my whole house.. will keep you all updated."

We are still waiting to hear from the police department and an update from Twitch.

Update 3: Varga started a stream this evening at approximately 9:30 p.m. PT to detail his version of the events that transpired. He said after experiencing server issues throughout the day and communicating with the alleged hackers who were DDoSing the games he played, his personal information was leaked, and he then received a warning from a friend who is a police officer that his name had been flagged by the local police department. He said that upon stepping outside his house and walking down the street, he was confronted by three police cars and six to seven armed police officers who ordered him to put his hands above his head and walk back toward their vehicles.

Varga alleges he was then cuffed and ordered to sit in the back of a police car for 25-30 minutes while officers searched his house. According to Varga, someone had called the police accusing Varga of holding up to five hostages in his home. On his stream, Varga showed video footage he had recorded on his phone of the police visit. Varga was released without charges.

During the evening stream, he was interrupted when the local police allegedly visited his home again due to another threat that had been called on him. He returned to the stream shortly afterwards and explained that the caller had notified the police and the fire department this time. No further action was taken.

Varga explained to his viewers that the reason he didn't stop streaming when the DDoS attacks escalated was because of a business decision.

"The first thing is, I'm sure there's an argument out there about why didn't I just stop," he said on the stream. "What people have to realize is, you know, this is a job. I am in charge of a business, so to speak. When the business is doing its very best, breaking records, you don't really stop. You can argue that, and so on and so forth, but that is from a business standpoint. I was going to hit a record, and I was excited — it was so cool, you guys were all there with me, it was just ... it was big. And I was sort of lost in it, so to speak."

Varga also apologized for his actions, and for any role he may have played in egging on the DDoS attacks that occurred this afternoon.

"If that was a mistake, I accept it," he said. "I apologize to the people who were affected by this, to the companies that their infrastructures were messed up, that had issues; it was not my goal for this to happen. It was not what I ever thought would happen. I knew it would have kept going, maybe, but not to the extent of what it was. I really did not know that it would be this intense."

Polygon contacted Varga's local police department for comment, but authorities were unable to provide information. We are still awaiting comment from Twitch. ..

Polygon: LoL, Dota 2 and other game servers shut down by group targeting Twitch user (update)

The fuck.

#39 Posted by Demoskinos (14519 posts) -

I hope these kids get caught. Swatting people is just a shitty thing to do. It ties up law enforcement when they could be responding to real threats.

#40 Posted by Dawglet (312 posts) -

Is it possible to be a video game hacker and not be obsessed with memes or are those two things just mutually exclusive?

#41 Posted by Cretaceous_Bob (500 posts) -

Varga also apologized for his actions, and for any role he may have played in egging on the DDoS attacks that occurred this afternoon.

"If that was a mistake, I accept it," he said. "I apologize to the people who were affected by this, to the companies that their infrastructures were messed up, that had issues; it was not my goal for this to happen. It was not what I ever thought would happen. I knew it would have kept going, maybe, but not to the extent of what it was. I really did not know that it would be this intense."

Polygon contacted Varga's local police department for comment, but authorities were unable to provide information. We are still awaiting comment from Twitch. ..

Polygon: LoL, Dota 2 and other game servers shut down by group targeting Twitch user (update)

Why the hell is the streamer apologizing? What the hell is that about? That seems like nonsense.

#42 Posted by Yretery (18 posts) -

I love watching stuff like this unfold.

It's always so entertaining to see what ends up falling out of it, especially if it what comes out of it is pure unadulterated crazy. I mean sure, fuck those guys for ruining some people's days, but I'm glad dumb shit like this still happens from time to time.

#43 Posted by jakob187 (21640 posts) -

Day 2 of DERP Trolling...

They've taken down World of Tanks NA, LoLKing.com, Runescape.com, mca.lwcc.org (a Christian academy), godhatesfags.com (Westboro Baptist Church), kcna.kp (North Korean state-run news agency), and they have just now taken down EVE Online.

#44 Posted by SeanCoughing (261 posts) -

"For the lulz" great use of your time guys, seriously. Sending a swat team to someone's home is a deplorable act that I can only hope will result in the same thing happening to the people responsible.

#45 Posted by Vuud (1943 posts) -

I guess this is what happens when you invent stuff like CallerID and kids can't make crank calls any more.

I hope there is appropriately stiff sentencing on the books for script kiddie nonsense like this.

#46 Edited by rangers517 (141 posts) -

@jakob187 said:

Day 2 of DERP Trolling...

They've taken down World of Tanks NA, LoLKing.com, Runescape.com, mca.lwcc.org (a Christian academy), godhatesfags.com (Westboro Baptist Church), kcna.kp (North Korean state-run news agency), and they have just now taken down EVE Online.

WTF. That's crazy. I'm no expert on this stuff, is there really no way to stop them or something?

edit: oh, I saw the posts above about this, nvm.

#47 Posted by GreggD (4475 posts) -

@jakob187 said:

godhatesfags.com (Westboro Baptist Church)

Well, at least SOMETHING good came of this.

#48 Edited by Yretery (18 posts) -

@rangers517: Well it sounds like they are using the LOIC, which is pretty much a bot net director application, which you can tie whatever systems you set up with it to run DDOS attacks simultaneously, and judging from what is being said on their twitter, they've probably got a ton of systems in use, and it sounds like a big collaborative effort across a wide area with the number of systems you would need to take down half of these networks.

So to answer your question, they stop or someone stops them forcefully.

#49 Posted by Demoskinos (14519 posts) -

Ugh, this continues to just be dumb. I hope they are having fun because when they get caught and they will its going to SUCK to be them.

#50 Posted by Flacracker (1575 posts) -

I'm pretty sure the LoL, Dota 2, Club Penguin, etc. DDoS attacks have nothing to do with the Rust DDoS attacks. It is some French people doing the Rust ones I think.

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