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    Street Fighter IV

    Game » consists of 9 releases. Released Jul 18, 2008

    After nearly a decade in hiatus, Capcom's signature mainline fighting game series resurfaces with its fourth main installment, combining the traditional 2D gameplay with modern fully-3D graphics.

    Does El Fuerte belong in streetfighter?

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    #1  Edited By BloodStaindWings

    My own opinion of him is well...
    He sucks!
    horrid to fight fight or play as cus he just runs everywhere
    and his moves and actual character style are just not on par with the rest of the characters
    What do yah think bout it?
    he kinda just pisses me off :/

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    #2  Edited By zityz

    he's different give ya that much.

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    #5  Edited By Kratos81

    I have not really put in the effort yet, but I dont care for any of the new characters except the girls.

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    #6  Edited By BloodStaindWings

    Aye Rufus is another one that annoys me

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    #7  Edited By PureRok
    Kratos81 said:
    "I have not really put in the effort yet, but I dont care for any of the new characters except the girls."
    Girls? There's only one new female character.
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    #8  Edited By Kratos81
    PureRok said:
    "Kratos81 said:
    "I have not really put in the effort yet, but I dont care for any of the new characters except the girls."
    Girls? There's only one new female character.
    "
    Sorry I thought rose and c.viper were new. Didnt play much sf3.
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    #9  Edited By Linkyshinks

    Rose is not new to SF, she was born in the alpha series. C Viper is new.

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    #10  Edited By Reale

    seths character design is horrid!

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    #11  Edited By Endogene

    His name was actually "El Stingray" in Saturday Night Slam Master. In the original version of the game called Muscle Bomber: The Body Explosion he is called "El Stinger"

    Here are some screencaps i just took from his bio and him fighting:

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    #12  Edited By Endogene

    My my the image tool really has become quite a hassle if you have to add images more than once to a page, Anyway here is the gamepage of the game. I just created all (2 missing since they are not initially unlocked" character pages. If someone could add some more stuff to them that would be great. All the characters are based upon Street Fighter 2 characters in some way or another.

    Titanic Tim
    first appears in Saturday Night Slam Masters
    Male
    1
    02/22/2009
    The Great Oni
    first appears in Saturday Night Slam Masters
    Male
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    02/22/2009
    Gunloc
    first appears in Saturday Night Slam Masters
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    02/22/2009
    Biff Slankovich
    first appears in Saturday Night Slam Masters
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    02/22/2009
    King Rasta Hom
    first appears in Saturday Night Slam Masters
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    02/22/2009
    Alexander the Grater
    first appears in Saturday Night Slam Masters
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    02/22/2009



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    #13  Edited By Legend
    Kratos81 said:
    "PureRok said:
    "Kratos81 said:
    "I have not really put in the effort yet, but I dont care for any of the new characters except the girls."
    Girls? There's only one new female character.
    "
    Sorry I thought rose and c.viper were new. Didnt play much sf3.
    "
    Rose first appeared in the Street Fighter Alpha series.
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    #14  Edited By Kratos81
    Legend said:
    "Kratos81 said:
    "PureRok said:
    "Kratos81 said:
    "I have not really put in the effort yet, but I dont care for any of the new characters except the girls."
    Girls? There's only one new female character.
    "
    Sorry I thought rose and c.viper were new. Didnt play much sf3.
    "
    Rose first appeared in the Street Fighter Alpha series.
    "
    OK.... If I really gave a shit I would have read the manual that is sitting on the shelf or googled it before posting. God forbid, I didnt remember  rose was from the alpha series. This is to everyone giving me shit for this. 
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    #15  Edited By BoG

    Calm yourself Kratos, no one is antagonizing you, they're just pointing out your mistake.

    Anyways, I think he is the best of the new characters. Abel is boring, Rufus is annoying, and I just don't like Viper. Of course, none of the new characters are as good as the new guys in III and its expansions. Also, I like Endogene's theory, but his name just isn't similar enough, neither is the costume. 
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    #16  Edited By Reale

    calm down kratos81 jesus.... yeah you got it wrong but dont be so defensive about it! now lets get this thread back on track!

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    #17  Edited By zityz

    At least he's better than  Rufus the Doofus.

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    #18  Edited By Endogene
    BoG said:
    "Calm yourself Kratos, no one is antagonizing you, they're just pointing out your mistake.
    Anyways, I think he is the best of the new characters. Abel is boring, Rufus is annoying, and I just don't like Viper. Of course, none of the new characters are as good as the new guys in III and its expansions. Also, I like Endogene's theory, but his name just isn't similar enough, neither is the costume. 
    "
    In doubt i decided not to add it to El fuerte's page, there actually is a second character in that game (has to be unlocked) that looks quite a lot like Rufus.
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    #19  Edited By Kratos81

    Sorry everyone, I am now calm.

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    #20  Edited By Endogene

    Lucky, found some screens.


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    GAY SEXUAL CONTENT !!!!
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    #21  Edited By JJOR64
    JacobBrodersen said:
    "He's fine... Rufus on the other hand... god i hate him...
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    I have to disagree.  I think Rufus is WAY better the El Fuerte but El Fuerte is still a cool character.
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    #22  Edited By RedSox8933

    i hate rufus, but el fuerte is awesome. i like fast characters.

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    #23  Edited By LiquidPrince

    Reminds me of the Luchador in Virtua Fighter.

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    #24  Edited By ZombieHunterOG

    el fuerte is awesome he really good if you use him alot and i like his squeaky shoes

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    #25  Edited By rerty

    el fuerte is fine, rufus has probably the worst character model ever

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    #26  Edited By SunBurntYeti

    He's only in the game because it's Super Dynamic Cooking Time.

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    #27  Edited By granderojo

    El Fuerte is meant to be an anti-Ryu/Ken/Akuma character, learn how to play with him then tell me he sucks, he is an awesome character and my favorite ATM.  He has a infinite combo loop and is the fastest character in the game, his ability to dodge ultras and supers is unmatched, he is an awesome character.

      

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    #28  Edited By Terra1909
    thabigred said:
    "El Fuerte is meant to be an anti-Ryu/Ken/Akuma character, learn how to play with him then tell me he sucks, he is an awesome character and my favorite ATM.  He has a infinite combo loop and is the fastest character in the game, his ability to dodge ultras and supers is unmatched, he is an awesome character.

      

    "
    Why did you post a video of him losing? Is there a video of the loop?
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    I thought the loop was removed in an arcade update. I'm pretty sure they'd take that out of the console version seeing as it was discovered ages ago.

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    #30  Edited By End_Boss
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    End_Boss said:
    "TeflonBilly said:
    "... Saturday Night Slam Masters..."
    The character models make that look like a poor man's Street Fighter.
    "
    IT HAS METRO CITY MAYOR MIKE HAGGAR IN IT!

    That's an automatic five stars. Big Rigs would get five stars if it turned out that Haggar was the driver. And at the end of the game he'd piledrive the truck.
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    #32  Edited By granderojo

    Well I posted it because it is two high level players going at it, El Fuerte holding his own, considering players should be better with Akuma because he is still out should show you how good a character El Fuerte is and why over time he will be amazing.  He is made to be a counter to the Shiruken whores, and being most people play as Ken and Akuma I would recommend learning how to play with El Fuerte.

      

    ^infinite combo loop.
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    #33  Edited By ArbitraryWater

    He is ok. Better than Rufus or C. Viper, even if he seems out of place.

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    #34  Edited By granderojo

    There have been tons of wrestlers in street fighter, why does a lucha libre seem out of place, if anything it adds to the comedy that street fighter has been known for, it doesn't take itself to serious.

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    #35  Edited By SoothsayerGB

    Basically they needed another ethnic character.  So they molded an old Vega design, to be faster and looser.  As a Mexican, I find him offensive.  The way Balrog is damn offensive.

    You can tell that none of the designers, aren't rich white boys and Asians.  From  US, Europe and Asia and not shit town or a ghetto.

    To me and my friends, who still enjoy playing the game and other toons.  Those forced ethnic toons are racist, offensive and unrepresentative of their source materal.  Exagerated meanly, and unjustly.  


    But as  American minorities, we expect it from those types of people.  This is the change you voted for.

    Questioning El F.'s place in SF4, is like questioning Mexicans place in the US.  Thats racist in itself. 


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    #36  Edited By BoG

    Soothsayer, I'm offended by the way you obviously take offense to easily. Everyone exxagerates racial stereotypes at times, and they don't mean any offense by it. What exactly about the guy is offensive to you? He's a cartoony luchador character. It's not as if they portrayed him in a negative light. Balrog is a worse stereotype, but whatever. You invalidate yourself with your own prejudice towards those who designed the games.

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    #37  Edited By insanejedi

    Can we all agree though that Abel is the best new character in the entire game? (despite the fact he is french)

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    #38  Edited By jakob187
    BoG said:
    "Calm yourself Kratos, no one is antagonizing you, they're just pointing out your mistake."
    Actually, BoG, I think people were pointing out that Kratos made it sound like he knew what he was talking about...and he actually didn't.  But it's whatever.  This is the internet after all.

    Either way, I haven't gotten to play with El Fuerte either.  I've been so focused on finishing F.E.A.R. 2 and playing the shit out of WoW and DoW 2 that SFIV has fallen to the wayside.  All I know, however, is that luchadores fucking pwn you...

    ...and if you think otherwise, then maybe you need to talk to Brad Shoemaker...and Luchadeer.
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    SoothsayerGB said:
    "Basically they needed another ethnic character.  So they molded an old Vega design, to be faster and looser.  As a Mexican, I find him offensive.  The way Balrog is damn offensive.

    You can tell that none of the designers, aren't rich white boys and Asians.  From  US, Europe and Asia and not shit town or a ghetto.

    To me and my friends, who still enjoy playing the game and other toons.  Those forced ethnic toons are racist, offensive and unrepresentative of their source materal.  Exagerated meanly, and unjustly.  


    But as  American minorities, we expect it from those types of people.  This is the change you voted for.

    Questioning El F.'s place in SF4, is like questioning Mexicans place in the US.  Thats racist in itself. 


    "

    What the fuck? So is El Blaze from Virtua Fighter racist? Watch some CMLL or AAA and you'll see that some of the luchadors there act that over the top.
    It's wrestling, they're supposed to be theatrical.
    As for bringing up ghetto's and whatnot, I'd say El Fuerte's doing pretty well for himself having his own restaurant.
    Questioning El Fuerte's place in Street Fighter isn't racist at all, it's his playstyle which people are objecting too.
    I'd be offended if somebody said "I don't want no spic beaner in my game", but people here have said, that his playstyle seems like an ill fit for SFIV.
    Fuck you, fuck your persecution complex and fuck your racist slander about "rich white boys and asians"
    It's not like El Fuerte is Speedy fucking Gonzalez!
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    #40  Edited By jakob187
    TeflonBilly said:
    "It's not like El Fuerte is Speedy fucking Gonzalez!"
    HEY!  You lay off Speedy Gonzalez, dammit!  That muthafucker is awesome!!!

    Either way, I have to agree that you are taking this in a direction it doesn't need to be taken, Soothsayer.  Luchadores are a very celebrated type of person in Mexico, so much that guys like Rey Mysterio Jr., Damien, and even Juvi have been recognized as national heroes.

    Therefore, to say that it's begetting some type of negative stereotype is simply the ramblings of someone that wants to start shit when shit don't need to be started.

    Don't start no shit...
    ...wouldn't be no shit.

    Back on the topic of El Fuerte, after watching all of these "anti-Ken/Ryu/Akuma" videos laying around, I definitely need to pick up and play him for a bit.  He seems like an extremely viable character, although against other folks in the game, we'll have to see if he's really worthwhile.
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    #41  Edited By Captain_Fookup

    Why in the fuck did Capcom put Rufus in the game? the least they could do is make him less fat, but then again he is American.

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    #42  Edited By jakob187
    Captain_Fookup said:
    "Why in the fuck did Capcom put Abel in the game?  Everyone knows that the French are pussies and never fight."
    Fixed.

    Now, see Soothsayer...Captain's comments above and in this quote...THOSE are offensive...

    ...and since we've gotta hit ALL the characters...C. Viper is obviously a dyke.

    There.  Now we're done with all the offensive shit.  Moving on...
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    #43  Edited By Captain_Fookup
    jakob187 said:
    "Captain_Fookup said:
    "Why in the fuck did Capcom put Abel in the game?  Everyone knows that the French are pussies and never fight."
    Fixed.

    Now, see Soothsayer...Captain's comments above and in this quote...THOSE are offensive...

    ...and since we've gotta hit ALL the characters...C. Viper is obviously a dyke.

    There.  Now we're done with all the offensive shit.  Moving on...
    "
    Abel would of been alright if he was from another Country perhaps Germany or some former Soviet satellite state.
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    #44  Edited By granderojo
    SoothsayerGB said:
    "Basically they needed another ethnic character.  So they molded an old Vega design, to be faster and looser.  As a Mexican, I find him offensive.  The way Balrog is damn offensive.

    You can tell that none of the designers, aren't rich white boys and Asians.  From  US, Europe and Asia and not shit town or a ghetto.

    To me and my friends, who still enjoy playing the game and other toons.  Those forced ethnic toons are racist, offensive and unrepresentative of their source materal.  Exagerated meanly, and unjustly.  


    But as  American minorities, we expect it from those types of people.  This is the change you voted for.

    Questioning El F.'s place in SF4, is like questioning Mexicans place in the US.  Thats racist in itself. 


    "
    You must find the Lucha Deer overtly racist, why again do you come to this site?

    You should feel privileged street fighter would make a stereotypical in your ethnic group, I have yet to see any scottish wrestlers in kilts and if I did I would think that is fucking awesome, as you should feel a Lucha wrestler is awesome.

    El Fuerte is awesome, go cry someone else a river on another forum, I would love to be stereotyped by Street Fighter.
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    #45  Edited By jakob187
    thabigred said:
    "You must find the Lucha Deer overtly racist, why again do you come to this site?

    You should feel privileged street fighter would make a stereotypical in your ethnic group, I have yet to see any scottish wrestlers in kilts and if I did I would think that is fucking awesome, as you should feel a Lucha wrestler is awesome.

    El Fuerte is awesome, go cry someone else a river on another forum, I would love to be stereotyped by Street Fighter."
    Bigred, let me paraphrase what you just said for SoothSayer:


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    #46  Edited By granderojo
    jakob187 said:
    "thabigred said:
    "You must find the Lucha Deer overtly racist, why again do you come to this site?

    You should feel privileged street fighter would make a stereotypical in your ethnic group, I have yet to see any scottish wrestlers in kilts and if I did I would think that is fucking awesome, as you should feel a Lucha wrestler is awesome.

    El Fuerte is awesome, go cry someone else a river on another forum, I would love to be stereotyped by Street Fighter."
    Bigred, let me paraphrase what you just said for SoothSayer:


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    *bows*
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    #47  Edited By LiquidPrince

    I want to see this fabled loop.

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    thabigred said:
    "You should feel privileged street fighter would make a stereotypical in your ethnic group, I have yet to see any scottish wrestlers in kilts and if I did I would think that is fucking awesome, as you should feel a Lucha wrestler is awesome."
    Totally, I'd be stoked for some Filipino fighter based on Eddie Reyes Jr or a Norwegian fighter who'd be some kind of viking send off.
    But hey, at least the guy in the background of the beer distillery's smock has a tartan pattern as well as an awesome mustache.
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    #49  Edited By BoG

    Bigred just reminded me of how awesome stereotypes can be by reminding me of the Demoman. The Demoman is awesome. Every overly stereotypical character in TF2 is awesome.

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    #50  Edited By granderojo
    BoG said:
    "Bigred just reminded me of how awesome stereotypes can be by reminding me of the Demoman. The Demoman is awesome. Every overly stereotypical character in TF2 is awesome."
    Sarcasm?  This being the internet, I can't tell.
    TeflonBilly said:
    "thabigred said:
    "You should feel privileged street fighter would make a stereotypical in your ethnic group, I have yet to see any scottish wrestlers in kilts and if I did I would think that is fucking awesome, as you should feel a Lucha wrestler is awesome."
    Totally, I'd be stoked for some Filipino fighter based on Eddie Reyes Jr or a Norwegian fighter who'd be some kind of viking send off.
    But hey, at least the guy in the background of the beer distillery's smock has a tartan pattern as well as an awesome mustache.
    "
    Even Rufus who is a stereotype on Americans is cool, none of the character are underpowered, it is just some people are better with some than others because those older characters have not changed much in the past decade.  Rufus and El Fuerte are said to be broken and suck because they were made to be good against Ryu and Ken, it is just most people are not good enough with them to beat good Ryu/Ken players and are not willing to learn to get good with them.

    I love El Fuerte and plan on getting good with him, that is usually what I do with Street Fighter games, I find obscure street fighter characters, and I try my hardest to master them.  When you are doing a good El Fuerte, your opponent can't touch you. 

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