his hard trials are making me grow my hair, only to rip it out seconds later. whos got some tips for a fresh guile player?

Good luck doing the hard trials with a standard console controller, haha.

Maybe you could find some youtube videos? Those trials can be a pain.

If you're trying to do the one that is the "xx attack > Double Somersault > Flash Explosion," the best way to get the Flash Explosion to connect properly is to use the medium kick button for the Double Somersault. If you use either the light or fierce kick for his Super, you won't have the proper range for the Ultra to connect.

im on hard trial 3. and i have checked out the youtube vids the just dont seem to help. 
 
@Napalm said:

" Good luck doing the hard trials with a standard console controller, haha. "

Guile and Vega's ultras are stupidly difficult on pad. You really want a stick with a square gate; you're expected to use the corners of the gate during those motions.

 @Flushes said:  

" Guile and Vega's ultras are stupidly difficult on pad. You really want a stick with a square gate; you're expected to use the corners of the gate during those motions. "

Yeah you CAN pull them off, but with a stick you can do it 100%, corners make it easy.

the main issue is the charge time on some of them is very quick, if you waste any time trying to find the downback corner you cant connect the second charged move.  trial one looks like a one frame link from cr.lp to cr.mp cancelled into Sonic boom, just work on that link and you should be able to get it.  The second seems like it could be particularly dfficult to pull off on a pad due to having to dash behind the sonic boom, jump attack, and immediately be charging for the second sonic boom.  Goodluck!

"  @Flushes said:  

" Guile and Vega's ultras are stupidly difficult on pad. You really want a stick with a square gate; you're expected to use the corners of the gate during those motions. "

 their ultras arent hard at all for me to pull of with a pad. ive been playing with a dpad in fighters since i can remember. its just my preferred method of execution. "

" @Napalm:  i need help with the trials i havent completed. and im on the fourth one now.  i have no problem with staying charged, its just the timing that seems to fuck me.  i dont know how or the subject of what kind of controller i use came into play, but i find it irrelevant. on all the boards, people keep trying to tell pad users that they are using the wrong medium, telling them how to THEY play the game. eff that. fight me and see how a pad user can successfully pull off a bloody high claw/ flash explosion. "

I've done all of Guile's Hard Trials and I'm using a regular wireless 360 controller. If you're having any specific problems I can help you but if it's just timing then all anyone can say is keep practicing and practicing trying out different timings until you nail it. It took me a damn while to do his Trials but I got there in the end.

Speaking of, I've been doing a couple of really random Sonic Boom > Somersault Kick > Double Somersault combos by accident. I've been trying to figure out how it works.

I just turned my 360 on after a few days not playing any SFIV and tried Guiles Hard Trial 4 and managed to do it in about 7 mins. I can probably guess the part you're messing your timing up at and that's his EX-Sonic Boom to Focus Attack crumple. You need to make sure you're in a rythem or you won't crumple him. At first I was like Jump.HP--Crouch.MP--EX-SB.FA and the FA wasn't comming out. The timing's a little wierd as you can buffer the EX-SB and there's alot of leway there but you've got to hit FA just after you throw the SB, not strait after you've hit the <-> EX.P button. Then you've got to let go of FA just as it hits level 2 and if it crumples don't dash out because you'll be needing to be charging strait after the EX-SB through the FA to get the Ultra to come out easily. It's a real bummer after you've done the whole combo and the guy's crumpled only for you to not charged enough and just jump in the air and kick.

" @biggblack86: Good luck setting a match up with Napalm. Hell will likely freeze over before that happens. "

i think it came from when i had said... 
"eff that. fight me and see how a pad user can successfully pull off a bloody high claw/ flash explosion. " 
 
 things just seem to get turned around. one smart ass comment elicits yet another, so on and so fourth. but thanks scooper. i know have all guile hard trials completed. now on to the normals. =)

Well, what I was getting at, here, it doesn't matter what you use. I use a FightPad. I was just asking so I could get a feel for how you're trying to do the moves.

So, you come in bitching without giving any information, and get pissed when people comment on the number one issue most people have with plaything the character you're asking about (namely, no corners on a pad makes many of the motions much more difficult than non charge characters)?  Maybe next time you should make a useful/informative OP and you wont have those issues. 

" @Renahzor: when did i bitch good sir? all i merely asked for was help with the trials. i did not in fact add fuel to the ever burning battle between controller superiority. you actually never offered (stated or implied), any help to the original topic. but thanks for your opinion regardless. "

Alrite guys put your dicks back in your pockets it's not that hard to give advice to a question. I did it okay.

and i gave scoop props on helping me out .and i already said i was all done with the guile hard trials. napalm i never "snapped" at you. if you scroll up you can see my response to your first reply on the topic. 
 
" im on hard trial 3. and i have checked out the youtube vids the just dont seem to help. 
 
@Napalm said:

" Good luck doing the hard trials with a standard console controller, haha. "

God bless our Street Fighter forum. We always get along so damn well :)

" God bless our Street Fighter forum. We always get along so damn well :) "

I used to think Guile's trials were super hard, but now that all I have left is Gen 5, and Viper 3,4, and 5 -- I beg to differ.

Ive completed the trials with Guile and all I can tell you is practice the movements in training. Guile's trials are actually pretty easy once you know him good enough.