Hey guys.
I was just wondering about something and thought you could help me out, I'm a fairly decent SF player, not great, not terrible, but one of things I've never been able to do is moves that either involve a double semi-circle back/forward (like Dhalsim's super in HD Remix) and particularly, Zangief's Ultra/Super in SF4.

I can do regular piledrivers A OK, one full rotation of the stick and a punch button I can do fine, but every damn time I try to do a double rotation, I always end up making Zangief jump. Is there something about the timing that I'm getting wrong or something?

I found that I could pull it off if I jumped into the person and whilst in mid-air, completed the first full circle, so when I landed I can do the second. I still have trouble pulling it off but it does work on occasion.

"I found that I could pull it off if I jumped into the person and whilst in mid-air, completed the first full circle, so when I landed I can do the second. I still have trouble pulling it off but it does work on occasion.
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I was wondering this as well - i cant seem to get either circle done without jumping xD

I'll just start doing the circle until I notice I do two in a row without jumping, which means I usually need 3 rotations before I get it right.  Zangief's ultra is awesome but I really hate that despite him having giant arms his ultra has very little reach.

"I'll just start doing the circle until I notice I do two in a row without jumping, which means I usually need 3 rotations before I get it right.  Zangief's ultra is awesome but I really hate that despite him having giant arms his ultra has very little reach.
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Yeah my brother just recently started playing the game and got really good with Ken.  I shocked the hell out of him when I started spinning around his fireballs and keeping him on the ground with the double lariat.  He would even get more furious when I stopped using the double lariat and would just do the ultra instead.  I really had no idea Zangief was such a beast in SF4 until I played in the Gamestop Tournament yesterday and got absolutely rolled by a Zangief player.  I'm glad the kid ended up winning the entire tournament since I always respect losing to the guy who takes first place.

Try performing a quick move e.g light kick/punch before doing the the two 360 pad rolls. This way you won't have to jump at your opponent.

"A Zangief player won a tournament. Damn , doesnt say much for the other players.
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"DirrtyNinja said:

"A Zangief player won a tournament. Damn , doesnt say much for the other players.
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That is what I thought and he probably would have lost if the really good Ryu player didn't lose the first round.  But he plowed through the Sagats winning each 3-2.  So it was close but in the end that Zangief kid was just ridiculous.  I asked why he picked Zangief in the end  and he said it was to compensate for not having an arcade stick and knowing that the quality of the kiosc controllers would be terrible.  If he had been allowed to use his stick I'm sure he would have picked someone else. 

The controllers at the tournament were pure garbage and he compensated for it."

easiest way to do it in my opinion is to focus attack and then punch in the ultra or super command while hes crumpled... zangief will still be in the focus animation so he wont respond to the jump command... also try and punch in the command if the other player is stupid enough to stand over you when youve been knocked down.

"easiest way to do it in my opinion is to focus attack and then punch in the ultra or super command while hes crumpled... zangief will still be in the focus animation so he wont respond to the jump command... also try and punch in the command if the other player is stupid enough to stand over you when youve been knocked down.
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I had (and still do have some) difficulty doing the Super\Ultra for Zangief but what works for me is to do the charge attack to at least lvl 2 then while Zangief is throwing his clothes-line to start circling.

These are all helping me alot as well. Ever since SFII I've been an avid Zangief player. He's a great character, just watch his intro and outro animation for SFIV, and I love professional wrestling. While I've been able to hold my own just doing basic moves I really want to bust out his ultra on some of my buddies. I'm going to have to practice these tricks for pulling it off.

"A Zangief player won a tournament. Damn , doesnt say much for the other players.
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"DirrtyNinja said:

"A Zangief player won a tournament. Damn , doesnt say much for the other players.
"

Zangief is a top tier character in SFIV.

And to do his ultra/super, i don't know. I just do circles very quick and I have yet to jump by accident.
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" easiest way to do it in my opinion is to focus attack and then punch in the ultra or super command while hes crumpled... zangief will still be in the focus animation so he wont respond to the jump command... also try and punch in the command if the other player is stupid enough to stand over you when youve been knocked down. "