For anyone who has it... online netcode... how is it?

#1 Posted by Demoskinos (14822 posts) -

I've heard all kinds of terrible about the SFxT netcode. Had a few people tell me that they had yet to find a playable match. So people of the interwebs how is it? I've got about 4 hours to decide if I wanna buy this. Currently at work (WalMart) and was going to pick it up as I left possibly... just wanna be convinced the online isn't garbage as I'm hearing.

#2 Posted by Jimi (1126 posts) -

This is relevant to my interests, netcode can make or break a fighting game for me. Don't want MK all over again.

#3 Posted by Demoskinos (14822 posts) -

Nobody? =(

#4 Posted by BisonHero (6495 posts) -

Give it a day or two. It just came out, plus everybody is still busy playing Mass Effect 3 for 72 hours straight without sleeping.

#5 Posted by handlas (2679 posts) -

...find out tonight!

I think it was IGN that said the online runs good. And then I watched the Gamespot review and they said the complete opposite. Funny.

I never had an issues with SF4 so I don't see why this would be much different...right?

#6 Posted by Demoskinos (14822 posts) -
@handlas Yeah...you would think. I've heard opinions all over the place. Which is the confusing thing.
#7 Posted by JJOR64 (18989 posts) -

To me it seems like it's around the same level as Super 4. When playing with another player with a good connection, it's fine. When playing with another player with a bad connection, there is button lag.

#8 Posted by handlas (2679 posts) -

well i did no online matches tonight. Sorries. Singleplayer runs smooth as a baby's butt tho!.....of course....

#9 Posted by MrMazz (974 posts) -

So far its solid when your both on White level connections things are pretty sweet. When there is lag though the sound cuts out and i'm not sure if thats a bug or if thats just a way to compensate for the lag or something.

Still if you play someone with a good connections its great if your on white and they are red its pretty crap but what would you expect.

#10 Posted by jakob187 (21670 posts) -

Why can't more games use BlazBlue's netcode? From what I remember, that thing ran amazing no matter what connection you found. Maybe I'm just waxing "nostalgic" or something on that and it was worse than I could've imagined, but I remember it being solid.

Either way, I'm interested to know how the SFXT netcode is as well.

#11 Posted by FulgoreSenpai (73 posts) -

Ya its like SF4's netcode, meaning it has nothing on SCV's netcode. It has sound issues right now, like how when you are fighting somebody online you can hear thier moves but you can here your own. Its pretty annoying but they are working to fix it. I only felt slow down when I played scramble mode with 3+ people. It's really early so it'll only get better.

#12 Posted by TooWalrus (13195 posts) -

It.can be laggy if the opponents connection is bad, but unlike the previous incarnations of SF I've yet to run into a "cannot connect to lobby" error. Every time you hit "find match", it fuckin finds one.

#13 Posted by Hailinel (24707 posts) -

I'll let you know as soon as I manage to actually get into a match. I couldn't find anyone to play in ranked.

#14 Edited by StrawHatLaw13 (166 posts) -

I watched my friend play a few rounds online tonight on the 360. The most notable issue was sound cutting off, where it was the characters voices or the sound of you getting hit, etc. So there is that. Aside from that the connection was good. Occasional lag matches, but for the most part okay.

#15 Posted by WarlockEngineerMoreDakka (432 posts) -

@FulgoreSenpai said:

It has sound issues right now, like how when you are fighting somebody online you can hear thier moves but you can here your own.

Yeah- along with these sound issues, the general consensus I've seen on the netcode hasn't been too good so far.

IGN are actually the only ones I've seen speaking positively on the netcode so far- that and a few of the posters in here. :P

BUT...

@FulgoreSenpai said:

Ya its like SF4's netcode

Do you mean just from your personal experience- or can you tell how similar SFxT's netcode is to SF4's? :P

Cause unless Capcom blatantly lied to us earlier...

http://shoryuken.com/2011/11/08/street-fighter-x-tekkens-netcode-is-brand-new-no-super-sfxt-discs/

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/11/12/ono-sfxtekken-uses-new-netcode-dont-expect-a-super-version/

SFxT's netcode is supposed to be brand new. >_>

But that's just me being nitpicky- take it how you will. :P

#16 Edited by Sauson (561 posts) -

I played a few endless battles on PSN and had no problems with it.

#17 Posted by StarvingGamer (8227 posts) -

I played a total of one match against a friend and it seemed like typical fighting game netcode.

#18 Posted by Sooty (8082 posts) -

Maximilian thinks it's better than SFIV. It's definitely different.

#19 Posted by FulgoreSenpai (73 posts) -

@WarlockEngineerMoreDakka: Its just from personal experience. actually its been way worse today.

as far as it being new netcode, Its definitely not better :(

I wanna like this game so bad but the online is preventing me. I went back to A.E. and had no problems so I know its not my connection.

#20 Posted by Commisar123 (1792 posts) -

Its been pretty good for me so far, but the strange audio issue is pretty awful and I hope they fix it soon

#21 Posted by NekuSakuraba (7241 posts) -

@FulgoreSenpai said:

I wanna like this game so bad but the online is preventing me. I went back to A.E. and had no problems so I know its not my connection.

It's a fighting game on release date, I'm sure they will fix it soon so it's as good as A.E.

#22 Posted by mubress (1517 posts) -

@Commisar123 said:

Its been pretty good for me so far, but the strange audio issue is pretty awful and I hope they fix it soon

The sound problem is really terrible yes, I've had it in every game so far. Also my connection has been uniformly bad against anyone and I know it isn't my end so I'm not sure what to make of it. Just going to play through the trials and stuff and hope they fix it I guess......

#23 Posted by MysteriousBob (6272 posts) -

@jakob187 said:

Why can't more games use BlazBlue's netcode? From what I remember, that thing ran amazing no matter what connection you found. Maybe I'm just waxing "nostalgic" or something on that and it was worse than I could've imagined, but I remember it being solid.

Either way, I'm interested to know how the SFXT netcode is as well.

Third Strike Online Edition and Soul Calibur V set the benchmark.

#24 Posted by VicRattlehead (1398 posts) -

did they move away from the list of people from sf4? or is it hit ranked and it searches a game for you and dumps you in like in marvel 3?

#25 Posted by Kuraform (52 posts) -

Sit down and let me school you duders.

It's currently using GGPO which is 'better'. By better it means that a fair match can still be had on a laggy connection by doing intermittent rollbacks. the fighting game community has been fighting for years to get this implemented in the latest capcom games because if you want to talk about unplayable matches, the online lag from SFIV uses a slow down technique.

Now If I'm in offline mode and I've got a character with very delicate timing. A frame slowdown would let me completely drop my links.

GGPO means that I can use the same timing as if I were offline. But they have not let it degrade gracefully which makes system look really clunky and shit, Implemented in skullgirls and SF 3rd Strike it's implemented a lot better with the tearing not so obvious because.. y'know. the sound doesn't cut out randomly.

Matches run fine and I'm in Australia, where the internet is upside-down and I've been able to hit my crispy Lili links. Try it out at a friends house first and see if it's too bad for you.

GGPO is made by fighting game fans and I'm happy it's finally there.

#26 Posted by Xeiphyer (5604 posts) -

Its definitely a lot worse than SFIV/SSFIV. 
 
My group of people I play fighting games with is pretty spread out, so when the netcode is sub par, its extremely noticeable. Even playing with people in the USA (From Canada, close to border, Calgary specifically), its sometimes choppy. 
 
Hopefully its just servers needing to be smoothed out and all that. It is the launch of an online focused title, and there's always problems. Hopefully they fix it soon though, I really wanna play the game properly.

#28 Posted by Syndrom (361 posts) -

Capcom is looking to improve Street Fighter x Tekken's online play, which fans have reported suffers from sound issues.

The Japanese company explained these problems were the result of the game's netcode, which is completely different to Street Fighter 4's.

"The new netcode implemented in Street Fighter X Tekken allows for up to four players to have a smooth online experience, however depending on the connection stability between players, things like 'spontaneous match rollback,' 'voice effects cutting out,' and 'sound effects cutting out' also are occurring," assistant producer Tomoaki Ayano said.

"This netcode is written in a completely different way than the Street Fighter 4 series netcode, and that is why these problems are occurring.

"As Street Fighter X Tekken is a tag battle game, the amount of data that is exchanged between player connections is a lot more than the normal 1v1 battles of the Street Fighter IV series. In order to compensate for this and provide a smooth gameplay experience, the netcode was written the way it currently is. Unfortunately, this has also brought on the sound problems we are having now.

"In order to completely fix all the sound issues, the smoothness of the online gameplay has to be traded off, so it is a very complicated and difficult balancing act. We would like everyone to know that the development team is currently looking at various ways to improve the sound issues."

Ayano promised an update soon. "Thank you all for your understanding," he said.

Fans seem unconvinced, however, with some claiming the crossover fighting game is unplayable on both PS3 and Xbox 360 online.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-03-09-capcom-looking-to-improve-street-fighter-x-tekken-online-sound-problems

This all sounds pretty bad, so in order to fix the sound issues they have to tamper with the online smoothness, lol.

#29 Posted by Bravestar (380 posts) -

it's worse than SSFIV netcode. I'm not surprised if they use GGPO, because in my experience GGPO is worse than the SSFIV netcode. yeah yeah offline timing inputs, whatever, I'd rather have consistent delay(you just have to play with some foresight), than a match slowing down and speeding up randomly.

#30 Posted by yates (382 posts) -

@Kuraform said:

Sit down and let me school you duders.

It's currently using GGPO which is 'better'. By better it means that a fair match can still be had on a laggy connection by doing intermittent rollbacks. the fighting game community has been fighting for years to get this implemented in the latest capcom games because if you want to talk about unplayable matches, the online lag from SFIV uses a slow down technique.

Now If I'm in offline mode and I've got a character with very delicate timing. A frame slowdown would let me completely drop my links.

GGPO means that I can use the same timing as if I were offline. But they have not let it degrade gracefully which makes system look really clunky and shit, Implemented in skullgirls and SF 3rd Strike it's implemented a lot better with the tearing not so obvious because.. y'know. the sound doesn't cut out randomly.

Matches run fine and I'm in Australia, where the internet is upside-down and I've been able to hit my crispy Lili links. Try it out at a friends house first and see if it's too bad for you.

GGPO is made by fighting game fans and I'm happy it's finally there.

I don't think it's actually GGPO, it's just a similar technology. I could be wrong though, but I haven't seen anywhere stating that it is GGPO.

#31 Posted by lordofultima (6247 posts) -

@MysteriousBob said:

@jakob187 said:

Why can't more games use BlazBlue's netcode? From what I remember, that thing ran amazing no matter what connection you found. Maybe I'm just waxing "nostalgic" or something on that and it was worse than I could've imagined, but I remember it being solid.

Either way, I'm interested to know how the SFXT netcode is as well.

Third Strike Online Edition and Soul Calibur V set the benchmark.

I'd say BlazBlue is the benchmark. No fighting game online ever been as good as that.

#32 Posted by mubress (1517 posts) -

@VicRattlehead said:

did they move away from the list of people from sf4? or is it hit ranked and it searches a game for you and dumps you in like in marvel 3?

Yeah it just automatically selects one for you, no list which is annoying. I'd be fine with it if I could play a match which doesn't lag and the sound doesn't freak out on me though ;(

#33 Posted by Korosuzo (174 posts) -

I thought it was way worse than SF4. Out of 16 matches I can't remember one that wasn't fucked. Not just sound but blocking and getting hit straight up and other nonsense. Feels awful and I'm really upset b/c SF4 is my most played game on Xbox 360 over the past few years and I was really hoping this would be my new "go to" fighting game.

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