Super Meat Boy's Wiiware Release Canceled

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Posted by MattBodega (1907 posts) -

It’s bad enough that Wiiware releases are more notable for the ridiculous press releases announcing games than the actual games in question. It’s way, way worse when a legitimately awesome game has its Wiiware release canceled.
 
Such is the case with Super Meat Boy, Team Meat’s critically acclaimed platformer/controller-snapping simulator, which was released last year on the Xbox 360 and PC. Originally announced as a Wiiware title back in 2009, Team Meat now reports that the final version of Super Meat Boy simply isn't feasible on Nintendo's downloadable game service and have decided to cancel the release.
 

 How many blocks of space does this version of Super Meat Boy require? According to Team Meat, too many. 
 
According to Team Meat, as the size and scope of SMB increased during development, the game soon outstripped the Wii Shop's 40MB size restriction for downloadable games. As a result, Team Meat was forced to make a choice between canceling the downloadable release or launching an inferior version of the game... and opted to cancel.  
 
"There is no way to avoid the fact that if we released a 40MB version of Super Meat Boy, it would be a shit version of the game," Edmund McMillen, the artist and designer at Team Meat, told Joystiq in an interview following the cancellation of the Wiiware release. According to the interview, squeezing SMB down under the 40MB limit would force Team Meat to cut the game’s online leaderboards, DLC support and the Dark World alternate levels, as well as reducing the game’s incredible musical score down to just six tracks. 

"It's a lose-lose situation,” McMillen told Joystiq, “but the fact of the matter is if we release a shitty game, we will have to live with that for the rest of our careers and have to cop to the fact that it is a shitty game."
 
Team Meat admits that, while they knew of the Wiiware size limitations going into development, they thought they would be able to convince Nintendo to let them release a larger, more comprehensive version of the game. Nintendo, however, refused Team Meat's requests. 
 
"It's lame that there is a 40MB cap on WiiWare games,” McMillen said to Joystiq, “but it was our fault for blindly assuming this cap wasn't set in stone, and we are sorry for that."

However, while the Wiiware version of Super Meat Boy is no longer a possibility, Team Meat still hasn’t given up on getting their game on the Wii; the small company is currently reaching out to third-party publishers for a possible retail release of the game, circumventing the size limitations that kept SMB off of Wiiware. 
 
Unfortunately, even with the critical acclaim that has accompanied Super Meat Boy’s release, publishers aren't necessarily lining up to release the title. McMillen told Joystiq that the publishers Team Meat have approached so far feel that a non-Nintendo retail Wii release is a "bad idea, profit-wise", citing the lack of major third-party successes on the platform. Though Team Meat continues to look for a SMB retail publisher, they admit that it's an uphill battle. 

 
 How great would it be to see a game with this box art in the Wii aisle of your local game retailer next to the lumberjack party game and Babysitting Mama?

Considering the ways in which Super Meat Boy draws on the legacy of old NES and SNES games—with its focus on precision/timing gameplay, as well as the many homages to classic video games—it’s totally crazy that the Wiiware release of Super Meat Boy has been shuttered. Still, I'm glad to see a developer choose to avoid compromising the quality of their game for extra revenue. In the meantime, if you’re looking for downloadable games on the Wii Shop worth your time, you’ll just have to stick with Cave Story, the Bit. Trip games, and any title that lets you whack the banana off the screen.
#1 Posted by MattBodega (1907 posts) -

It’s bad enough that Wiiware releases are more notable for the ridiculous press releases announcing games than the actual games in question. It’s way, way worse when a legitimately awesome game has its Wiiware release canceled.
 
Such is the case with Super Meat Boy, Team Meat’s critically acclaimed platformer/controller-snapping simulator, which was released last year on the Xbox 360 and PC. Originally announced as a Wiiware title back in 2009, Team Meat now reports that the final version of Super Meat Boy simply isn't feasible on Nintendo's downloadable game service and have decided to cancel the release.
 

 How many blocks of space does this version of Super Meat Boy require? According to Team Meat, too many. 
 
According to Team Meat, as the size and scope of SMB increased during development, the game soon outstripped the Wii Shop's 40MB size restriction for downloadable games. As a result, Team Meat was forced to make a choice between canceling the downloadable release or launching an inferior version of the game... and opted to cancel.  
 
"There is no way to avoid the fact that if we released a 40MB version of Super Meat Boy, it would be a shit version of the game," Edmund McMillen, the artist and designer at Team Meat, told Joystiq in an interview following the cancellation of the Wiiware release. According to the interview, squeezing SMB down under the 40MB limit would force Team Meat to cut the game’s online leaderboards, DLC support and the Dark World alternate levels, as well as reducing the game’s incredible musical score down to just six tracks. 

"It's a lose-lose situation,” McMillen told Joystiq, “but the fact of the matter is if we release a shitty game, we will have to live with that for the rest of our careers and have to cop to the fact that it is a shitty game."
 
Team Meat admits that, while they knew of the Wiiware size limitations going into development, they thought they would be able to convince Nintendo to let them release a larger, more comprehensive version of the game. Nintendo, however, refused Team Meat's requests. 
 
"It's lame that there is a 40MB cap on WiiWare games,” McMillen said to Joystiq, “but it was our fault for blindly assuming this cap wasn't set in stone, and we are sorry for that."

However, while the Wiiware version of Super Meat Boy is no longer a possibility, Team Meat still hasn’t given up on getting their game on the Wii; the small company is currently reaching out to third-party publishers for a possible retail release of the game, circumventing the size limitations that kept SMB off of Wiiware. 
 
Unfortunately, even with the critical acclaim that has accompanied Super Meat Boy’s release, publishers aren't necessarily lining up to release the title. McMillen told Joystiq that the publishers Team Meat have approached so far feel that a non-Nintendo retail Wii release is a "bad idea, profit-wise", citing the lack of major third-party successes on the platform. Though Team Meat continues to look for a SMB retail publisher, they admit that it's an uphill battle. 

 
 How great would it be to see a game with this box art in the Wii aisle of your local game retailer next to the lumberjack party game and Babysitting Mama?

Considering the ways in which Super Meat Boy draws on the legacy of old NES and SNES games—with its focus on precision/timing gameplay, as well as the many homages to classic video games—it’s totally crazy that the Wiiware release of Super Meat Boy has been shuttered. Still, I'm glad to see a developer choose to avoid compromising the quality of their game for extra revenue. In the meantime, if you’re looking for downloadable games on the Wii Shop worth your time, you’ll just have to stick with Cave Story, the Bit. Trip games, and any title that lets you whack the banana off the screen.
#3 Posted by Prodigal (22 posts) -

Isn't this news almost 2 weeks old?

#4 Edited by ThePhantomnaut (6201 posts) -

Unpleasant shit. 
 

Deleting your post when obviously trying to get the first post achievement = Unnecessary. Have fun realizing that these achievements will render useless for you in the future.

#5 Posted by 234r2we232 (3181 posts) -

Oh no. I guess Wii owners will have to make do with those Super Mario games which are also platformers. Oh well.

#6 Posted by SuperfluousMoniker (2913 posts) -

Well that sucks. Guess I'm getting the Steam version after all.

#7 Posted by Gnubberen (780 posts) -

Kinda old news.. but man.. that box art is still fucking great.

#8 Posted by Manatassi (791 posts) -

Ouch 

#9 Posted by Wiseblood (655 posts) -

This actually makes the "news" Nicholson usually posts seem timely.

#10 Edited by wolf_blitzer85 (5288 posts) -

It's a bummer for Wii owners, but surely people out there would at least have a PC capable enough to play that version of the game if they have no other options.

#11 Posted by SuperfluousMoniker (2913 posts) -
@sofacitysweetheart:  Dude, what? Just because they are both games where you jump from things doesn't make them in any way similar. Your statement is like saying that Rainbow Six is just like Gears of War because they both involve shooting guns.
#12 Posted by Chicken008 (387 posts) -

Mac version isn't out yet.

#13 Posted by Cincaid (2959 posts) -

40mb limit?
Yikes. Happy new year, 1991.

#14 Posted by Hailinel (25203 posts) -
@Gap said:
" And nothing of value was lost "
Easy playing the internet asshole isn't it?  I'm sure that there were some Wii-only gamers that were looking forward to it, and it's a shame that they might have to wait for a disc release to get it.
#15 Posted by davidwitten22 (1708 posts) -

Ps3 version???

#16 Posted by InfamousBIG (3219 posts) -

I've never hated on Nicholson before, so right now I will. 
Cause this shit is fucking 10 years old.' 
 
ALSO IM FUCKING SO PISSED AT THE MOMENT

#17 Posted by MattBodega (1907 posts) -
@davidwitten22: Apparently not. Team Meat has said repeatedly that there wasn't and could never be a PS3 version (due to publishing deals and not technical limitations). Also a huge bummer.
#18 Posted by Legend (2660 posts) -

Sorry, Bodega, but old news is old..

#19 Posted by Apathylad (3067 posts) -
@InfamousBIG: Kessler wrote this. But yeah, I agree that this is too old and not worth posting at this point.
#20 Edited by Paloc (37 posts) -
@Hailinel said:

Easy playing the internet asshole isn't it?  I'm sure that there were some Wii-only gamers that were looking forward to it, and it's a shame that they might have to wait for a disc release to get it. " 


I wonder if a disc version would even work, I mean the load times for levels are non-exsistant and so fast that having to load from a cd may slow down and detract from the game just as much as if they cut the file size down. 
 
Either way I really hope Nintendo does a better job with the Wii 2.0 on it's online support.
#21 Posted by animathias (1194 posts) -

This was news to me, and apparently Cliffy B, so get over yourselves.

#22 Posted by ThePhantomnaut (6201 posts) -
@animathias said:
" This was news to me, and apparently Cliffy B, so get over yourselves. "
I saw that shit on Twitter. Ha.
#23 Posted by 234r2we232 (3181 posts) -
@SuperfluousMoniker said:
" @sofacitysweetheart:  Dude, what? Just because they are both games where you jump from things doesn't make them in any way similar. Your statement is like saying that Rainbow Six is just like Gears of War because they both involve shooting guns. "
Aren't there like only two things to do in Super Meat Boy?
#24 Posted by Sharpless (472 posts) -
@Wiseblood said:
" This actually makes the "news" Nicholson usually posts seem timely. "
Hey, hey, guys, I think there's something wrong with my monitor. For some reason, this guy's comment just shows up as "Wah wah wah wah 'wah' Wah wah wah wah wah." Should I log out or defragment or...?
#25 Posted by Nicholas (410 posts) -
@CrazyChris said:
" 40mb limit? Yikes. Happy new year, 1991. "
Tee hee. Nice.
#26 Posted by davidwitten22 (1708 posts) -
@SuperfluousMoniker said:
" @sofacitysweetheart:  Dude, what? Just because they are both games where you jump from things doesn't make them in any way similar. Your statement is like saying that Rainbow Six is just like Gears of War because they both involve shooting guns. "
This
#27 Posted by Sammo21 (3437 posts) -

Anyone keeping track of this has seen this writing on the wall for a long time now.  Unfortunate for sure, but hopefully it can garner a retail release...but I doubt it.

#28 Posted by MattyFTM (14423 posts) -

I really don't know who the wiiware version was aimed at anyway. I mean, anyone who is interested in the game should already own it on PC - it has extremely low system specs, so anyone with a PC built since the stone age should be able to run it. 

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#29 Posted by dragonzord (825 posts) -

Kessler's favorite Pokemon is number 79

#30 Posted by Kjellm87 (1728 posts) -

I find this ironic since Nintendo was the one requested this game being made for Wiiware in the first place

#31 Posted by SuperfluousMoniker (2913 posts) -
@sofacitysweetheart:  You're missing the point. Two games can be in the same genre but have completely different gameplay. It's not simply what you do in the game, but how you do it. They have completely different level design and gameplay philosophies. Apples, oranges, etc.
#32 Posted by LordAndrew (14430 posts) -
@Prodigal said:
" Isn't this news almost 2 weeks old? "
"Posted 1 week, 5 days ago". I guess Matt wrote up the article right before going into hibernation and forgot to post it.
 
@MattBodega: How was your hibernation? :P
#33 Posted by strangeling (1260 posts) -

Old news or not, this is the first I've heard it.  Not everyone visits every other gaming website on the internets.  Not that it matters.  I hadn't considered the Wii version.  I'm still trying to decide between the XBLA and Steam versions.  Headcrabs in my SMB sounds enticing, but I'm not sure how it'd control on the pc.  It seems like the type of game you need a controller for, as opposed to a keyboard and mouse, and I haven't bought one yet. 
Also, MattBodega writes a much better article than Brad Nicholson. 

#34 Posted by DEFE (266 posts) -

I respect that decision. Better to scrap the game than release something inferior. Good call by the developers.

#35 Edited by White_Silhouette (476 posts) -

That sucks, hopefully they will push it to the PSN, where they would most likely have a larger (edit: Target) audience anyway.

#36 Posted by LordAndrew (14430 posts) -
@strangeling: The PC version encourages the use of a gamepad. It's tricky to control Meat Boy with the keyboard.
#37 Edited by MattyFTM (14423 posts) -
@LordAndrew said:

" @Prodigal said:

" Isn't this news almost 2 weeks old? "
"Posted 1 week, 5 days ago". I guess Matt wrote up the article right before going into hibernation and forgot to post it. "
There is often a time delay between the time displayed on Bodega & Nicholson's posts and the time they actually get posted. I guess it's because they're not based at the whiskey offices, they submit them to some internal news queue type thing, where the staff at whiskey towers proof read it & whatnot, and then they post it up. That's what I've always assumed anyway, but I could be wrong.
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#38 Posted by LordXavierBritish (6320 posts) -

Yeah, this isn't exactly news, but hope wasn't completely lost until now. 
 
I've said it before and I will say it again: I will keep buying Super Meat Boy as long as Team Meat keeps releasing it. 
 
This type of game development needs to be viable again. It NEEDS to be.

#39 Edited by Abendlaender (2867 posts) -

That's really a shame, but I guess but I guess it's Nintendos fault.

#40 Edited by CornBREDX (5829 posts) -

Ya, this is old news as everyone around the netz has been talking about it. It's only sad to me as I want Team Meat to make more money, but it's cool that they wont sacrifice quality for revenue. That's something you'll only see from indie developers and that's why I respect them so. 
 
If it's been said, I don't know about it. Why is it they don't release on PSN? 
edit: I read past comments and it was explained: Thanks Matt =)
Anyway, good on them for sticking to quality.
 

@strangeling:

 
Just so you know, it does support the XBOX controller on PC and works great. I play it on my PC using that. I haven't tried with the keyboard yet. Knowing how much using a controller makes it feel slick but still hurts my knuckles I suspect using a keyboard may be torture- I dont know though haven't tried that out.
#41 Posted by TehFlan (1944 posts) -

Does anyone know why Nintendo is so strict about the size limit? This just seems stupid. Oh well, I guess I'll just buy a gamepad and get this on Steam.

#42 Posted by FritzDude (2279 posts) -

 
#43 Posted by MetalBaofu (1430 posts) -
@strangeling said:
" Old news or not, this is the first I've heard it.  Not everyone visits every other gaming website on the internets.  Not that it matters.  I hadn't considered the Wii version.  I'm still trying to decide between the XBLA and Steam versions.  Headcrabs in my SMB sounds enticing, but I'm not sure how it'd control on the pc.  It seems like the type of game you need a controller for, as opposed to a keyboard and mouse, and I haven't bought one yet. Also, MattBodega writes a much better article than Brad Nicholson.  "
I use my wired 360 controller as my PC gamepad.  If you only have a wireless one I think you might need  a receiver to plug in the PC's USB port, though.  Just wanted to mention that in case it was something you hadn't thought of or didn't know.
#44 Posted by President_Barackbar (3472 posts) -
@Hailinel said:
" @Gap said:
" And nothing of value was lost "
Easy playing the internet asshole isn't it?  I'm sure that there were some Wii-only gamers that were looking forward to it, and it's a shame that they might have to wait for a disc release to get it. "
I don't think there are enough Wii-only gamers in the target audience for this really to be a huge loss.
#45 Posted by JJOR64 (19051 posts) -

That's a huge bummer for Wii owners.  This was easily my favorite XBLA game of last year and it's sad some people wont be able to play it.

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#46 Posted by bonbolapti (1617 posts) -

I thought we all knew this a month ago.

#47 Posted by Aetheldod (3682 posts) -

Oh Ninty ... stupid , stupid Ninty , good to know that you prefer Wiiware crap to good games because of being stupidly stubborn

#48 Posted by takua108 (1482 posts) -
#49 Posted by wewantsthering (1586 posts) -
@TehFlan: They are strict because the Wii only comes with 512MB of internal storage and they probably don't trust the average consumer to add an SD card.
#50 Posted by c0l0nelp0c0rn1 (1811 posts) -

Considering it was Reggie Fils-Aime who, impressed by the Meat Boy flash game, told Team Meat they should do some WiiWare. It's kind of disingenuous of Nintendo to not make a size exception for a well-received downloadable title. I mean what else are they going to point to for a killer app? Eduardo the Samurai Toaster?

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